Socratic State of Mind Podcast

Andrew Perlot

Exploring the wisdom of history's greatest men and women to help us live more productive, tranquil, and moral lives. andrewperlot.substack.com

  1. 12/04/2025

    Stoics on the Trolley Tracks

    You’ve agreed to put on mental handcuffs and won’t be thinking straight. That’s what you should conclude, first and foremost, if you choose to grapple with philosophy’s famous “Trolley Problem.” If you’re unfamiliar, it goes like this: The Setup: A runaway trolley is about to kill five people lying on its track. You can pull a lever to divert it onto another track, where one person will be killed instead. The Question: Is it better to take an action that will kill one person in order to save five, or to not act, even though more people will die? Since I try to act with virtue, a subscriber recently asked me how I’d respond to this moral problem during a chat. Here’s what I told him. A Delusion of Fixed Outcomes Our intentions imperfectly correlate with outcomes. Every functional adult realizes this, but we choose to ignore it in thought experiments like this. In Physics: It’s called the “three-body problem.” It’s hard enough to account for all the variables of two simple constants interacting in a vacuum. Add in another and it becomes nearly impossible. Any realistically complex system dissolves into a morass that’s analytically intractable and resistant to computation. In Neoclassical Economics: It’s called “rational choice theory.” Humans are assumed to be rational actors maximizing their utility — happiness, wealth accumulation, or other preferences. Modern economics textbooks tell students this. Yet a vast field of “behavioral economics” research documents humans deviating from rationality due to biases, emotions, and flawed heuristics. Predictive modeling is frequently way off. Economists are wrong all the time. And knowing this, someone demands you accept that an intention to pull or not pull a lever will lead to the fixed outcomes they’ve dictated? This is the first reason why we should push back on this thought experiment. It wants to set us up as gods. We are, in fact, a single actor in an overwhelming tsunami of causality that’s bearing down on us and the rest of our world. We cannot make decisions assuming certain outcomes will result. Decide what you will, but any of this may happen: * Unseen bystanders rush in and rescue one or more people. * The lever may be broken, or we don’t know how to disable the safety lock. * The trolley conductor had fainted, but suddenly wakes and throws the emergency brake. And many, many other possibilities. So it’s not in uncontrollable outcomes, but in intention, where morality lies. What’s Your Role? No one wakes up at a switch like a blank slate. Real humans have backgrounds and roles, some chosen, others provided by fate. Parents, politicians, and safety inspectors should choose differently because there is no absolute moral choice. “Good human,” is one role we balance alongside others. Does it not strike you as bizarre that you — a blank-slate human — is at this switch, presumably in some rail yard or control tower? Are you a trespassing vandal or thief? Do you work for the public transit service? Are you a police detective coming to investigate whatever dastardly chain of events led to six humans lying on trolley tracks? The police inspector may prioritize stopping an escaping criminal mastermind before he can set up an even greater slaughter. A public transit engineer may know the ins and outs of the system and act with an unknowable perspective. Are you in the Secret Service and know the president is tied to one of the tracks? These are incredibly important roles dictating priorities the Trolley Problem doesn’t want us to consider. Because when we do, we start to see that its handcuffs are designed to limit us to a blind binary choice aligning not with reality or morality, but narrow ivory-tower philosophical debates. They’re trying to railroad us into their perspective by literally using a railroad. Throwing The Switch Toward Virtue: Virtue appears at the confluence of wisdom, justice, courage, and moderation. I assume you’re not an all-knowing sage, and I’m certainly not one. This means we grope toward an imperfect understanding of virtue within the context of causality, experience, roles, and a philosophical practice. * We accept fate and outcomes while minimizing attachment to the uncontrollable. The Trolley problem’s obsession with outcomes leads to irrational passions, and we see the straitjacketed game it’s playing with us — the distraction and spectacle of it all. * We focus on courage in facing outcomes, justice in considering impacts, wisdom in rational judgment, and self-control in the face of emotion rather than debating outcomes that might never come to pass. And this, then, is my response. Not a particular course, but a framework for deciding on one. Philosophy is not a game of riddles but a practical discipline for flourishing in a chaotic world. The only ‘switch’ we can pull is toward virtuous choice — where intentions become opportunities to align with something more valuable than an outcome. Thanks for reading Socratic State of Mind. If you liked this article, please like and share it, which helps more readers find my work. Get full access to Socratic State of Mind at andrewperlot.substack.com/subscribe

    6 min
  2. 11/13/2025

    Do Good Philosophers Need to Be A******s?

    Shall I be an a*****e? I could bring this question to every relationship; an entire branch of my philosophy can be built around it. I don’t mean “should I be intentionally offensive,” but rather, “should I ask virtuous questions that antagonize the masses, or bow to the foolishness that reigns?” Bring a truth-seeking, Socratic-style approach to any encounter and Eris, goddess of discord, appears, dropping her golden apples. Being polite while dragging bags of uncomfortable questions into a room isn’t enough. We will rock the boat and make enemies, and no partisan tribe will shelter us when they call for our blood. Michael Woudenberg noted: “I find that I’m accused of being a lot of things because, in a world of answer choices A or B, questioning A must mean I support B or vice versa. I realize I normally neither accept A nor B as I find them missing critical substance and, instead, am trying to find out if there is at least a C and more likely expecting that there is an A – n. But that is nuanced and results in “so what you’re saying is ______” accusations, straw-manning my position to discount it.” I feel this constantly, and there are at least two reasons why it demands we take a position on the a*****e question. They Want Things: People who assert A vs B binaries usually want things from us, and they don’t like having their binaries interrogated. “Let my binary into your identity without inconvenient questions,” is the obvious ask, but also “join this protest,” “vote for this cause”, “tell me I’m right,” and “loan me money without questioning my budgeting.” Surrendering to the demands of fools, trouble makers, and the reflexively tribal may stem from what Plutarch calls dysopia, or “defeat at the hands of the shamelessly insistent.” Why do we surrender to them? An excessive sense of shame, bashfulness, agreeableness, or modesty is the general pattern he outlines. In On Dysopia, he gives several tips for standing up to the manipulation of our desire to be agreeable and well-liked. By surrendering to dysopia, we become a party to vice and abandon our ideals. If nothing else, embracing binaries makes us stupider people robbed of cognitive maneuvering room. Anyone committed to philosophy cannot surrender, which means we will appear to be a******s to some. We Could Make Beautiful Music Together It’s charitable to assume people give great thought to their confidently asserted positions. That goes double if they demand we kowtow to them. If we’re wise, we suspect we’re ignorant about most things, since it’s impossible to have more than a few areas of expertise. So it’s natural, when hearing positions that don’t seem to align with reason, that we want to explore it with an expert. We want to be set straight and have our ignorance illuminated and corrected. This is the Socratic project at its best: respectfully and humbly interrogating the assumptions underlying a claim. Hopefully, both sides will become less ignorant. We make beautiful music together. Except people hate this. They loathe these questions. They killed Socrates for asking them. Socrates was invariably polite, but in seeking the truth, he made enemies everywhere by exposing ignorance and contradiction masquerading as wisdom. Is There Chaos in Your Soul? Socrates considered his stubborn truth-seeking part of holding the virtuous, rational center as his city went mad. Poking this mass of contradictions was his moral imperative. He didn’t flinch from this duty, though he knew the risks. Our most renowned philosophers and firebrands have taken this path. Diogenes and other Cynics questioned and mocked kings and emperors along with their fellow citizens, consequences be damned. * Galileo: “If Earth is motionless, why do we see the phases of Venus?” * Bruno: “If the universe is infinite, what place is left for God and the Church?” * Solzhenitsyn: “What if we’ve built an entire society on lies?” These men died or faced horrible repression for loudly wondering. Perhaps it was worth it. But what did it take to do it? I’m reminded of Nieztche: “One must have chaos in one’s soul to be able to birth a dancing star.”— Frederick Nieztche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra, Prologue, Section 5 Today we speak of “trait agreeableness,” which seems to have spread like a plague alongside all the wonders of the Enlightenment. My sense is that agreeableness smothers the inner chaos that values something higher than tranquility. An unwillingness to rock the boat makes for concord, but also leaves unexposed the foolishness rotting society’s foundations. I seem to have enough chaos in my soul to be protected from dysopia. I’m rarely captured by Plutarch’s “shamelessly insistent” types, and happily skewer schemes that would draw me into binaries and vice. But this is merely defensive questioning and sticking to my values, regardless of cost. But I’m no burning star of chaos. I rarely go on the offensive, exposing the questionable beliefs I observe to fresh air and sunlight. Sometimes all I can manage is “hmmm,” as someone spews confident foolishness at me. Perhaps I don’t value truth enough to dissabuse them. Perhaps I’m a kindness-centered son of the Enlightenment. Perhaps it’s merely that Socratic questions rarely change opinions, and I find them exhausting. But I also wonder if there’s a better model. Ben Franklin’s Turn: In his autobiography, Ben Franklin says he mastered Socratic questioning early and… “grew very artful and expert in drawing people, even of superior knowledge, into concessions, the consequences of which they did not foresee, entangling them in difficulties out of which they could not extricate themselves, and so obtaining victories that neither myself nor my cause always deserved.” But, it seems that, like me, he grew disillusioned with exposing interlocutors’ contradictions. It won him nothing but opposition. Over time he switched to merely expressing Socratic uncertainty on the path to worthwhile ends. “This habit, I believe, has been of great advantage to me when I have had occasion to inculcate my opinions, and persuade men into measures that I have been from time to time engaged in…I wish well-meaning, sensible men would not lessen their power of doing good by a positive, assuming manner, that seldom fails to disgust, tends to create opposition, and to defeat everyone of those purposes for which speech was given to us.” “Persuade men into measures that I have been from time to time engaged in,” is one of Franklin’s typical understatements of philanthropic and business success. He might be history’s greatest Otiarius. The Gift of a Question: I only love a few people enough to ask them hard questions, and only when they signal interest. It’s a gift, but for most, an unwelcome one. I’ve settled into a Ben Franklin-like approach and only rock the boat enough to pursue what virtue demands with the human confederates on hand. Perhaps this restraint is my failing; I’m no Socrates. But I don’t think relationships are our personal development projects. Expecting a person or society to dance to logic’s tune is crazy. “To seek what is impossible is madness: and it is impossible that the bad should not do something of this kind,” Marcus Aurelius reminded himself when his best efforts to do good were resisted. I get it, and I agree. But here’s my twist: of all the people under my influence, I’m the one most likely to benefit from these questions, so why would I force them on an unwilling world? I see my inconsistencies and failures like no one else, and not probing them is far more egregious than letting a stupid opinion go unquestioned. Time to turn the mirror around — and ask away. Thanks for reading Socratic State of Mind. If you liked this article, please like and share it, which helps more readers find my work. Get full access to Socratic State of Mind at andrewperlot.substack.com/subscribe

    9 min
  3. 11/10/2025

    Horse Stance as Philosophy Practice

    You know what you should do. Horse stance can help. I’m not talking about your boss’s orders or meeting society’s expectations. You can summit those heights without horse stance. They offer carrots, sticks, and cheerleaders aplenty; godspeed. I’m talking about that other category of shoulds. The ones that feel more important and less lucrative and practical. The ones we can’t muster enough willpower for. Some shoulds are worthless psyops we’ve been duped into, some are unachievable, and some are just derailed by fate. But none are as sad as the worthy ones we can’t bring ourselves to chase. We all have at least an inkling of what a sovereign human being with our abilities and perspectives should do. To put it philosophically, we know what a more virtuous version of us would do that we will not. So why aren’t we doing it? Perhaps we’re too enslaved to the ease of not doing it. When our body or mind cries foul, we crumple like a wet paper bag. “Maybe next time, ideals,” we sigh. Physical Training as Philosophical Training “Deal sternly with the body lest it fail to obey the mind.”— Seneca, Letters, 8.5 Until old age intervened, the philosopher Seneca started each year by plunging into the frigid canal running through Rome’s Campus Martius It was fed by the pure water of the Aqua Virgo, which still powers the famous Trevi Fountain — a mindboggling feat of continuity. Yet I suspect anyone restarting Seneca’s New Year’s tradition there would see armed polizia closing in, which is both understandable, kind of funny, and slightly frustrating. Seneca, Musonius Rufus, and Epictetus insisted philosophers must train themselves to willingly do hard things if they want to live the good life. Voluntary physical and psychological stressors are high on their list, and today, those are going extinct. We’re wrapped in suffocating blankets of ease that whisper “Lie back and take it easy. Just watch the screen.” I imagine modern Romans could use a yearly Trevi polar plunge as much as the rest of us. Epictetus calls these voluntary discomforts “hard winter training,” referencing the Roman Legions’ cold-weather drills. Musonius wants us to “accustom ourselves to cold, heat, thirst, hunger, scarcity of food, hardness of bed, abstaining from pleasures, and enduring pains.” But why? Modern Voluntary Hardship This ancient advice has gotten a boost from modern research over the last few decades. Studies find voluntary hardship and exercise inoculate humans and animals against stress and reduce their response to pain. It boosts inhibitory mechanisms and regulates anxiety by calming overactive brain circuits, making stressful situations and looming to-dos feel less overwhelming. The result is a dampened fear response, better emotional control, and increased agency via improved persistence. During voluntary hardship, our brains are flooded with BDNF, or brain-derived neurotrophic factor. It boosts neuroplasticity so we’re best able to rewire our familiar patterns, which may not be serving us. This is why we should practice positive self-talk that moves us in the direction of what we want to be while doing hard things. It ends up making hard things more palatable, or even desired. We’ll talk about this more in a bit. The current research doesn’t give enough granularity to determine “best practices,” so from here I’m relying on experience. I’ve experimented with exercise and deprivation for 20 years, and while minor willpower improvements and pain desensitizations result from many, only a few seem to boost my willpower across domains. That’s what we should want from “philosophy training” — domain agnostic increases in the ability to do hard things when pleasant surrenders beckon. Why Do Some Hardships Work Better? Here’s my theory. The best choices… * Are self-willed and without peer pressure/social pressure. No one but us must care if we execute them. Exercise classes won’t cut it. Don’t tell people you’re doing them, as praise and respect works against us. The goal is to respect and rewire ourselves. Each hardship is a potential crucible for reforging ourselves into what we want to be. * The best options allow us to push well past our comfort zone and physical limits without risking injury. Heavy barbell lifts won’t work, since if you get tired and your form breaks down, bad things happen. * Simple high-rep exercises like pushups aren’t great, since they’re easy for most of the set and only become very hard at the end when we’ve only got a few more reps in the tank. * They must allow you to recover quickly enough to do them daily, if desired. * I’m less impressed by heat training than the ancient philosophers seem to be. I live in Texas and train outside in temps over 90 degrees for much of the year, and over 100 degrees for several months. I don’t notice any transfer to general willpower; it simply adapts me to heat. I do think cold plunges might work, but haven’t spent enough time with them to know. * I did a lot of long-distance running in my twenties, but I find it’s not excruciating enough until you get over 15 miles (who has time?). Before that it’s often mildly unpleasant, or even enjoyable. And it’s too easy to injure yourself by running through pain. YMMV * Although not critical, I give extra points to anything that can be scaled to the infirm and out of shape, requires no special equipment, and can be done almost anywhere and anytime. So what fits this bill? Horse stance is at the top of my list, with plank in second place. They’re technically physical exercises, but really psychological crucibles. Both are scalable, require no equipment, can be done anywhere and any time, and can be achieved — via progressions — by most out-of-shape and infirm people. Record holders in each do them for over 15 minutes, so there’s room for growth. I choose horse stance because I enjoy its many knock-on physical benefits. I’ve noticed few from plank, but that might be because of the other types of training I do. The Horse Stance I’ve found nothing more effective than Horse Stance for boosting my ability to stay the course when ease-filled surrender beckons. It helps build a meta skill for life. Practice daily and you’ll gain mental strength and focus. It’s incredibly uncomfortable. Every second is an opportunity to push yourself further than you think you can go. It recalibrates your understanding of what pain and hardship even look like. So Try: Set a timer. Perhaps thirty seconds if you’re out of shape. Several minutes if you can manage it. Every day add 5 seconds to your time. * No distractions. No music. No podcasts. You want an intimate understanding of the unpleasantness that will occur so you can reframe to it rather than ignore it. * Feet wider than hip distance with toes turned out. * Squat until your butt is at your knees, or whatever you can manage. But this is not a full ass-to-grass squat. You’re halfway between the ease of standing and the ease of squatting in the worst way imaginable. Now stay there. No, I mean, really stay there. No, I mean really, really stay there. Your mind begs you to stop. Don’t. Your legs will scream. They’re overreacting. Don’t bail. Go through till the timer goes off. While this is happening your mind is probably spewing b******t based on old patterns that don’t serve you. Luckily, since your brain is being flooded with BDNF, there’s no better time to rewire it for future success. That means positive self-talk. “This is too hard,” becomes — I can do this; there’s no reason why I can’t. In fact, I’m doing it right now.” “This is pointless,” becomes, “This is the most worthwhile thing I can be doing right now — building my agency, resilience, and ability to pursue my goals.” The longer you hold, the more evidence you gather of your agency. Each successful day of horse stance builds proof that you can do the same again tomorrow, and in fact can do many hard things you’ve been shirking. Every day that starts with horse stance seems to be full of me racking up wins that might have eluded me. Though it’s often the most physically unpleasant and psychologically demanding part of my day, I actually look forward to it in a way that feels slightly unhinged, and I suspect it’s because I’ve used the combination of BDNF and positive self-talk. It’s become a pleasantly anticipated pain-satisfaction hybrid. Oh…and then there’s the physical prowess that result. Better biking, hiking, and rucking, and more graceful aging. But I’ll let the fitness gurus tell you about that. Thanks for reading Socratic State of Mind. If you liked this article, please like and share it, which helps more readers find my work. Get full access to Socratic State of Mind at andrewperlot.substack.com/subscribe

    10 min

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