Selling With Sabine

Sabine Taylor

Sabine, the host of the "Selling with Sabine" podcast, is a certified sales expert with extensive experience working with Fortune 150 tech companies, including telecommunications and cybersecurity. She also holds an Adult Learning Graduate certificate and utilizes her knowledge from her Instructional Design Graduate program to design and develop sales training assets, such as job aids and micro e-learning courses, for her clients. In her podcast, Sabine guides salespeople, solopreneurs, business owners, and aspiring entrepreneurs on a short episodic journey of how to incorporate sales and service best practices to achieve greater success. If you'd like to connect with Sabine for your training or speaking needs, you can message her on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/thesalestrainingarchitect/. Don't forget to follow her for more insightful content, and share the podcast with your friends, family and business associates!

  1. May 26

    Why Most People Fail the "Sell Me This Pen" Challenge

    Ever feel like your sales pitch sounds more like a late-night infomercial than a real conversation with a client? In this quick episode, I break down why jumping straight into "pitch mode" is hurting sales professionals, and the exact question you need to ask first to uncover what your buyer actually needs. Transcript: Welcome to Selling with Sabine. I am your host and certified sales coach, Sabine Taylor. I want to start by saying thank you so much for giving me your time today. I genuinely appreciate it. So today, I want to talk about a sales challenge that comes up a lot during job interviews and during training sessions. The challenge is called "Sell me this pencil," or "Sell me this pen." The point is the same, no matter the object, because what the person on the other side who's listening to you they're trying to see if you know how to sell. And here's where most people go wrong. The moment a sales rep hears that challenge, they jump straight into pitch mode. They pick up the pencil, start rattling off features, mention price, and try to convince the person across from them to buy it on the spot. But that is skipping the most important part of the entire sales process. And here's the thing: before you can sell anything to anyone, you have to understand the context. You really need to know who you're selling to and where the product is actually going to be used. Because selling a pencil to a walk-in customer at Staples is a whole different selling process than when you're a sales rep or business owner selling into a hospital system, a government institution, or a K-12 school district. So, hopefully, you see where I'm going with this. So when an interviewer hands you the pen or pencil and says, "Sell me this" again, what they're really asking is, "How would you go about selling this?" Or they should be asking, "What is your process to sell this?" And knowing that, your very first move should not be a pitch. It should be a question to unpack the scenario. You can ask something like this: "Can you tell me a little bit about the customer? Who am I selling to here? Am I a retail associate working with a walk-in customer, or am I an enterprise rep working with a large school district?" That one question changes everything. It signals to the interviewer or trainer that you're not just a product pitcher, but a strategic thinker who understands the sales process and has to flex depending on the customer meaning you have to be flexible. Okay? Because let's be real: rattling off a list of features is what a host does on QVC or what you typically see in a late-night infomercial. In a real face-to-face selling environment, that doesn't cut it. Your job isn't to do all the talking. It's to let the buyer do the talking so you can listen, pick up on their patterns, take notes, and then connect your solution directly to the pain point. That's why you want your customer or prospective customer to talk so that way, you can start to mentally connect the dots of how you're going to pitch the product or service to them. So as we wrap up today, remember this: never jump straight into a pitch. You want to diagnose the customer or your prospective buyer. You want to figure out what environment they're going to be using that product or service in, and you want to lead with the problem first — how your solution solves their problem. And with that said, if you want to elevate your sales approach or train your team to drive real results without relying on aggressive, outdated techniques, I would love to connect. I've trained thousands of business-to-consumer professionals across retail and contact center environments, and I have a real knack for shifting behaviors that drive revenue. You can reach me at sellingwithsabine@gmail.com. Also, if you liked this episode  and I sure hope you did  please consider liking, subscribing, and sharing this content or this podcast episode with anyone you know who's struggling in sales or starting a business and needs help in that arena. Again, thank you, and I'll see you in the next episode. https://www.linkedin.com/in/sellingwithsabine/

    5 min
  2. May 10

    When Leading Questions and Assumptive Selling Become Manipulation

    Description Have you ever agreed to something in a sales conversation and later wondered how you got there? In this episode of Selling With Sabine, I discuss how leading questions and assumptive selling techniques are used in high-pressure sales environments, and how those communication patterns can quietly influence customer decision-making before a true agreement has even taken place. Transcript: Welcome to selling with Sabine. I am your host and certified sales trainer Sabine Taylor. Thank you for giving me your time today. I truly do appreciate it. Today, I want share my thoughts on leading and assumptive style questions, the kinds that are often used in high pressure sales environments. But for this episode, I also want to connect that conversation to something much more personal. My experience representing myself in court, my background as a certified sales trainer, and what I have observed influencers saying online to sell their high-ticket coaching program. So let me explain… What started as me being represented by counsel in a child support case led me to basically firing all of my attorneys and representing myself as a pro se litigant. I did that because I did not feel they were asking the judge or the witnesses the right set of questions. And questions are important because this is how an attorney begins to influence the judge to rule in their favor. But the key is to ask the right style of questions. So when I started representing myself, I had to learn how to frame the questions correctly. You see, at court, judges manage extremely heavy caseloads. There is very little patience that they have for litigants who appear appear unprepared to ask the right questions even when that litigant has no formal education in law. With that said, if I ask the question that the judge deemed was argumentative, improperly framed, or if I failed to follow procedural standards surrounding questioning, that judge would automatically interrupt me requiring that I reframe the question or threaten me to move proceedings without allowing me the opportunity to question my witness. And remember, in the courtroom, being able to ask questions is critically important to winning your case. Now what helped me adapt in the courtroom was my background as a sales trainer. My experience in sales coaching taught me how to think on my feet and reframe questions in real time. And that only happened for me in sales because I was teaching sales reps and telling them the same message over and over and over again. So naturally, I developed an ability to reframe any questions at a drop of a dime. Now when I hear certain sales influencers teaching overly scripted leading questions and pairing them with assumptive sales tactics, I want to become that lawyer in the courtroom. And I want to say, objection. Leading questions, your honor. So that way, the judge will magically appear and say sustained. Rephrase your question, counsel. Rephrase your question, salesperson… So for an example, a leading question that you might hear from an influencer with a high ticket coaching program that they are trying to sell you will sound something like this. So…what if I told you that you would be meeting with me weekly…and twelve other ambitious women on a Zoom call, and all of you would be working through the necessary steps to confidently close high ticket sales and build financial freedom? Would that make you feel like you were joining a community of high achieving women focused on growth and accountability? Would you then agree that joining this coaching program would help you build generational wealth to support your family? So would you then agree that breaking up the payments into four installments would make it possible for you to join this community… Pause. And wow. When I hear that, I'm like, okay. If anyone is trying to sell like this, that customer needs to run for the hills and run for the hills fast. These are the type of influencers that often appear on a headline news for scamming their customers out of thousands of dollars because they're using sales techniques like this. Pause. And what makes this leading question very powerful is when that influencer pairs it with assumptive sales techniques, and that assumptive sales technique can sound like this. So when we get started…or once we're in community… again, pause. This is where my brain says, hold up. Wait a minute. When did this moment become a we moment? At what point did I suddenly become a we? Did I agree to something already? Because…grammatically, something very powerful is happening. That influencer has shifted from I and you into we. So at first, the conversation with the influencer starts like, oh, I can help you with that. Your business can benefit from this. But then suddenly, the language changes…to when we get started, as we move forward, once we begin implementing, and psychologically…that shift…matters. Because the moment we enters the conversation, that influencer no longer sees that customer as an independent decision maker with the ability to decide whether the deal is good or bad for them. But linguistically, they are being moved as a customer into partnership, into agreement, into participation for some product or service that they have no intention on buying or signing up for. And, typically, these types of tactics are used on customers who are quiet or who the influencer feel is a bit gullible. But just because… someone or a customer is silent, that should never automatically be interpreted as an emotional commitment. See, this is where ethical communication matters, and it matters a lot in sales, especially in highly regulated industries like finance, insurance, health care, and real estate, and the list goes on. These are the type of high pressured sales tactics that can create legal problems for that influencer, especially if their customers feel like they're being pressured into signing up for a service or a product that they don't fully understand. And when that happens, they can sue. And any judge or attorney involved in that type of case will be quickly be able to tell if the question the influencer used was proper or improper. And no seller wants to be before any legal professional in a case revolving around assumptive or leading questions because, quite honestly, this is their world. As judges and attorneys, they dissect questions for a living. So with that said, when the sales process begins to rely heavily on high pressure sales tactics, that seller is compensating for a skill deficiency that was never properly addressed through trading. Pause… If a sales professional truly understands their product and knows how to actively listen and has practice objection handling every day and can confidently navigate around different customer personas, there is no need to force momentum through psychological pressure. Pause. Real confidence in sales does not come from manipulation. It comes from preparation. Pause. It comes from practicing your role plays with your role play buddies. Pause. Because when salespeople do not know how to sell through skills, they often attempt to sell through force, and force based selling eventually damages customer trust, brand, and credibility and could land that seller in front of a judge, and that is a big pause… So with that said, if you're serious about improving your sales approach or training your team to operate at a higher level without relying on aggressive outdated sales techniques that I just talked about, I would love to connect. I've trained thousands of sales and customer service professionals in highly regulated industries working across retail and call center environments in the business to consumer space. And I would love to help you shift behavior in a way that drives measurable and sustainable sales results. So you can reach me at SellingwithSabine @gmail dot com. That is simply the name of this podcast followed by at gmail.com. And, of course, if you found the value in today's message, and I really hope you did, please consider sharing this podcast with your friends and your family plus colleagues, particularly anyone who's thinking about going into business for themselves or already in business. And I encourage you to visit my LinkedIn page and I will leave my LinkedIn profile in the show notes. And with that said, I thank you for listening and have a great day. Bye bye for now https://www.linkedin.com/in/sellingwithsabine/

    11 min
  3. May 6

    In Sales, There's No Such Thing as Luck

    In sales, people love to call outcomes "luck." But in today's episode, I take a closer look at that belief and explain what's really driving results behind the scenes. Transcript: Welcome to selling with Sabine. I'm your host and certified sales coach, Sabine Taylor. Thank you for giving me your time today. I truly do appreciate it. Today, I want to talk to you about the concept of luck and why I don't believe in it. To drive this point home, I want to take you back to maybe the fourth grade when fractions was introduced to you. You may recall that your math teacher told you that anytime you have a zero in the denominator, it is undefined, meaning you have nothing to divide. So think of it like this. You told your friends to come over your house, and they will enjoy some delicious pizza. But when they arrive, there was no pizza to be found. There was nothing to divide. That too is considered undefined. When it comes to sales, there is no such thing as an undefined sales event. What I mean by that, sometimes I hear professionals say, I did so much work. I went to the right schools. I networked. I met the right customer, and I persisted. I am so lucky. No. That is the intersection of preparation and opportunity. That is not luck. That's being ready. You see in sales, to really close a deal right and to get the results you're looking for, you can't wing it. You can't just show up not knowing anything. You have to research. You have to put in the time, understand the competitive landscape, understand your product, nail your pitch. So that way, the customer will be influenced to say yes to you. That is being ready Now some people may say, well, Sabine, what do you say if I'm walking and I found ten dollars on the street? What do you say there? Well, I get where you're going with that. But even still, somebody had to work to earn that ten dollars. And let's say that person got it as a gift. Well, that person who gifted them had to work and get that ten dollars. The point is you gotta work. In sales, you gotta study. You gotta prepare. You gotta understand the competition. You gotta understand who your customers are talking to. So that's essentially my word of the day. There is no such thing in my book mathematically as luck. And in sales, there is no luck. Everything's just defined by the amount of time and effort that you're willing to put in to close that sale.  So with that said, if you are serious about improving your sales approach or training your team to operate at a higher level without relying on aggressive or outdated techniques, I would love to connect. I've trained thousands of sales and customer service professionals across retail and call center environments in the business to consumer space, and I know how to shift behavior in a way that drives results. So you can reach me at selling Sabine @ gmail dot com. That is simply the name of the podcast followed by @ gmail.dot com. And, of course, if you found value in today's message, and I hope that you found some value, I would ask that you would help me become more discoverable by sharing the show with your friends, colleagues, and family especially if you have friends and family who are entrepreneurs. And if you would also subscribe, you can check me out on different platforms such as Substack, and check out my credentials on LinkedIn. I will link everything in the show notes. So, again, I want to thank you for your time, and I will see you in the next episode. Have a great day.  Bye Bye for now. sellingwithsabine@gmail.com https://substack.com/@salesandserviceinpractice https://www.linkedin.com/in/sellingwithsabine/

    5 min
  4. May 4

    The Morning I Didn't Quit and Why It Matters in Sales

    Welcome to selling with Sabine. I'm your host and certified sales coach, Sabine Taylor. Thank you for giving me your time today. I truly do appreciate it. Today, I want to share a simple experience I had this morning that connects directly to the theme of persistence. So let's get started. I woke up this morning knowing I needed to go to the pool, but I didn't feel like it. And quite honestly, I never feel like exercising, let alone going to the pool. Why? Because just two days ago, I had colored my hair, and I kept thinking about how the chlorine might affect my hair color. Next, I was already thinking about the ways the water would change my style if it got wet. Excuses. Excuses. Excuses… But then I paused and I said to myself, Sabine, you need to exercise. So I went. And as soon as I got into the pool, I noticed it was cold. In fact, it was very cold. And immediately, I wanted to get out and feel that comfort of that warm air wrapped around me but I stayed in the water. And after two or three laps, something shifted. My body got acclimated to the pool temperature, and I found my rhythm. And before I knew it, I had completed about forty five minutes of moderate swimming activity. And that is good for my heart health. And more importantly, it felt good to follow through on something I had committed to. So let's connect this experience…to the sales process. As I mentioned before, sales is not easy. You're putting yourself out there, you're making your pitch, and you're waiting for your customer to respond yes or no. And oftentimes, the response is, uh, I'm not interested. And, yes, that can affect your confidence, your morale, and even your self esteem. But here's the truth. Persistence changes everything. Every conversation…teaches you something. It teaches you what worked. It teaches you what didn't and where to improve. And over time, just like I got acclimated to the pool water, you will get acclimated to the sales process. And with that said, the discomfort that you may feel with objections, that's not gonna disappear, but you'll learn to power through it. At first, objections feel really personal. But with repetition practice, they become part of the sales process that you prepare for. So you'll stop reacting emotionally, and you will start responding professionally. And, eventually, you'll get to the yes. But, of course, you have to go through a whole bunch of no's. So the lesson is simple. Persistence in sales is key to building your confidence, key to sharpening your skills, and key to moving closer to those results you're looking for. And I'm talking about closed sales and increased revenue. So, again, the more you stay in the sales process, even when it's uncomfortable, the stronger you become as a sales professional. So if you are serious about improving your sales approach or training your team to operate at a higher level without relying on aggressive or outdated tactics, I'd love to connect. I've trained thousands of sales and customer service professionals across retail and call center environments in the business to consumer space, and I know how to shift behavior in a way that drives results. So you can reach me at SellingWithSabine@gmail.com. That is simply the name of this podcast followed by at @gmail.com. And if you found value in today's message, and I hope that you found some value, would you please consider helping me become more discoverable by sharing the show with your friends and with your family, especially if you have friends who are entrepreneurs. And if you would also like, subscribe, you can also check me out on different platforms such as Substack and look at my credentials on LinkedIn. And I will link everything in the show notes. So, again, I wanna thank you for your time, and I will see you in the next episode. Have a great day. Bye bye sellingwithsabine@gmail.com https://substack.com/@salesandserviceinpractice https://www.linkedin.com/in/sellingwithsabine/

    6 min
  5. Apr 28

    Know When to Walk Away: A Sales Strategy Most Ignore

    Are you staying in conversations longer than you should? In this podcast, I use a sauna analogy to explain one of the most overlooked sales skills and that is knowing when to exit. Not every objection is meant to be overcome. Some are signals! Transcript Welcome to selling with Sabine. I'm your host, Sabine Taylor. Thank you for giving me your time today. I truly do appreciate it. Today, I want to connect something a little different, and it's about the connection between my experience in the sauna and the sales process. This morning, I walked into a sauna and saw a sign on the door. It listed conditions, high blood pressure, diabetes, and other health risk, and warned that staying too long could impact cardiovascular health. Some other saunas I visited even recommend no one should stay more than ten to fifteen minutes per session. And these signs made me think about the sales process. Because in sales, we sometimes stay in conversations longer than we should with the customer. What I mean by that, you're talking to a prospect, you're pitching, you're trying to move the deal forward, but no matter what you say, the answer is still no. You might hear something like this. I need to think about it. I need to talk to my spouse. It's too expensive. The competition does this. The competition does that. Those aren't always objections to overcome. Sometimes, they're signals from the customer that they want to exit the conversation, and this is where many sales professionals miss it. We ignore the context clues. And what I mean by context clues, it's the words coming out of the customer's mouth…signaling they are ready to end the conversation. However, the more that we push, the more tension we create, and customers can feel that. I once had a financial adviser raise her voice at me when I told her no, and I still remember it twenty years later. That's how lasting a negative sales experience can be. So, here's the shift. Not every no is an opportunity for you to push harder. Some no's are your cue to wrap it up with professionalism. So, you can say something like this. Thank you for your time. Here's my information. If anything changes, I'd be happy to reconnect. And that's it… Because staying too long doesn't increase your chances. It could damage your reputation. Personally, after the third objection, I'm done. Not because I can't keep going, but because I understand where the customer is. And I have other conversations to get to, other opportunities to close. So, the lesson is simple. We have to know when to exit, when to walk away. And that's the difference between a pushy salesperson and a professional. And I hope that you get what I'm saying. Now if you're serious about training your sales team to operate at a higher level without aggressive and outdated tactics, I'd love to connect. I've trained thousands of sales and customer service professionals in the retail and call center environment, and I know how to shift behavior in a way that drive those results you're looking for. You can reach me at SellingwithSabine@gmail.com. That's the name of this podcast followed by gmail. com. And if you found value in this, and I sure hope you did, please make sure to like, subscribe, and you can now subscribe to my Substack newsletter. I will link everything below in the show notes. Again, thank you for your time, and I see you in the next episode. Have a great day sellingwithsabine@gmail.com https://substack.com/@salesandserviceinpractice https://www.linkedin.com/in/sellingwithsabine/

    5 min
  6. Apr 23

    How to Sell to Americans the Right Way (Without Pushing Them Away)

    In this episode, Sabine draws from her experiences traveling abroad and her perspective as a first-generation American to unpack the "sales gap" many immigrant business owners encounter. She explains why certain well-intentioned approaches can unintentionally push customers away, and how small shifts in timing, tone, and engagement can build trust, improve the customer experience, and lead to more consistent, sustainable growth. Welcome to Selling with Sabine. I'm your host, Sabine Taylor. Thank you for giving me your time today. I truly do appreciate it. In our last episode, we broke down cultural competency and why it's not just a buzzword, but a strategy that directly impacts your ability to close sales. So that just means… making more money. With that said, I wanna flip the script on the conversation today. And I'm speaking directly to immigrant business owners. So whether you're based here in the U.S., or maybe you're operating abroad and you serve primarily American customers, this episode may benefit you greatly… So the reason I say that is because I see a massive opportunity for growth, but I also see a clear disconnect in how the sales is being approached. So if that sales gap isn't addressed, you won't just miss a sale; you'll lose that customer altogether. So first things first: we want to, as salespeople, respect the customer space. And I wanna lead with a story. I often travel abroad where there's not a lot of Black people on the scene. So when I'm shopping there, I stand out like a sore thumb because I look different. And with that said, I noticed sellers who notice me and go out of their way. And as soon as they approach me, they notice I have shopping bags. They start touching my arms, putting products in my face, trying to engage immediately. And I'm like, hold up press the brakes, okay? At that point, I no longer want to engage with no one. I don't know what is happening. I'm trying to find the nearest exit route because, quite frankly, my personal space… is being violated. You see, in the U.S., personal space isn't optional; it's expected. So, if we crowd the customer, we don't increase our chances of closing; we eliminate them… So, the second point I want to talk about is to please do not rush the sales process. I see the same pattern happening in the stores in the U.S. I'm talking about nail salons, massage parlors, or other businesses where they sell clothes or other items. And I'll give you an example… I walk into some of these nail salons, and as soon as I walk in, I'm told, "Sit down here, take off your shoes, pick a color. Do you want this? Do you wanna try that?" Everything is happening so fast, back-to-back, and there's no pause. There's no time to breathe. But when you rush the interaction, the customer doesn't feel helped; they feel handled, and that's how I felt. And, again, American customers, for the most part, do not respond well to pressure. If they feel pushed, they don't just walk out; they mentally check out. And once that happens, you've lost them. And for context, my parents are immigrants, and I was born here. I've witnessed firsthand how they move. They move with a deep sense of intentional urgency. This experience shaped how I see the immigrant hustle, and quite frankly, I respect it. And many of you who are listening have a lot of grit. So, whether you're building your business or simply trying to make it here in the States, you rely on that grit to help you accomplish your goals. And that drive, that persistence that is truly your superpower. But do not confuse grit… with proper sales technique. It's not the same thing. They won't yield the same results. Okay? So what works in a high-pressure sales environment… in one culture, and you may call that grit, can feel overwhelming or even aggressive in another environment. The average U.S. customer values autonomy. That means they want to feel like the decision to buy was theirs and not something that they were pushed into… And with that said, over the years, I worked in retail and call center operations. I've supported millions of customers by supporting the sales reps and customer service agents that supported those customers. And I've seen just about every sales approach imaginable as a sales trainer. And I can tell you this: none of those sales approaches that I have taught instructed me to train the reps to grab a customer's arms or use pet names like, "Pretty lady, come here. I have something to show you. You wanna buy?" None of that language exists in any sales curriculum. So, I say this because what feels friendly, again, in one culture can come across as unprofessional… and even uncomfortable to many customers. So, you may think calling someone "pretty lady" is a term of endearment. Well, your customer may not like that. In the U.S. market, pressure doesn't always create urgency for the customer to buy; it actually creates resistance… The moment a customer feels uncomfortable, the decision is already made in their head. They're going to say anything to leave your establishment or to get off the phone with you, and you'll hear the dreaded phrase… "I need to talk to my spouse," or "I need to think about it some more," or… "I'll be back." But what they're really saying quietly is, "I don't feel comfortable enough to stay in your establishment…" or… "to continue this conversation with you over the phone." And when they leave, they're not pausing their buying decision; they're just going to continue it somewhere else, like with your competitor. So, if you want to sell effectively to American customers, here's an approach that you may want to consider. Now, I'm not going to go over the whole sales process, but I'll give you, like, three steps to get you started. Number one… is respect the space. Start with a professional greeting: "Hi, how are you?" Or you can simply say, "Welcome." Let them know you're available, and then step back. Space isn't distance; it's respect. And respect creates the comfort needed for a sales interaction… The second step: you want to ask… and listen. Don't lead with everything you offer like, "Try this, try that. We have this discount. We have this promotion." Just lead with a question: "So what brings you here today?" or "What are you looking for today?" And then pause and listen. When customers feel heard, that's when the trust begins to build. And with step three, you're going to offer a recommendation… Now you're going to guide the customer with your solution or service. You're not going to list everything under the sun that you offer, but you're going to offer a clear and thoughtful recommendation based on what they told you when you asked them that question. That's the difference between selling with respect and following a sales process that's calm versus just rushing aggressively, trying to present every solution that you offer… So my final thought I want to leave you with is this: when you're in business to serve the customer, to provide a meaningful service or solution… but how you go about doing it matters just as much as what you offer. So, when you approach the customer the wrong way, like coming across as pushy, you don't just lose a sale; you risk losing more. Oftentimes… unhappy customers or unhappy prospective customers will go out of their way to share negative experiences with friends and family… and with their online audiences. So that word-of-mouth can hand business directly to your competition, who spent nothing on advertising, while you pay for the ads on Google and you paid for the ads on Groupon to get that customer in the door or to get that customer to call you. So when they come in or when they call just relax and try those three steps that I just talked to you about… So, again, how you sell is just as important as what you sell. So that is it for this episode. I hope that you found value in this conversation. You can reach me through email at sellingwithsabine@gmail.com. That's the name of the podcast at Gmail.com. And if you're serious about training your sales team to operate at a higher level—meaning no pushy, aggressive sales tactics or assumptive sales tactics then you're going to send me a message. And I'd love to connect to learn more about how I can serve you and your business. With that said, I have trained thousands of sales and customer service agents in the business-to-consumer space that's retail and call centers and I know what it takes to shift behavior to drive results that you're looking for, like happy customers… and that means more money coming into your business when they buy. So, again, I want to thank you for your time, and I'll see you in the next episode. And finally, I have a little favor to ask: if you could please like and subscribe to this podcast, that lets me know that you enjoyed it. Ciao. https://www.linkedin.com/in/sellingwithsabine/

    11 min
  7. Apr 20

    Cultural Competency: Your Sales Advantage

    Welcome back to Selling with Sabine. I'm Sabine Taylor, your host. I've spent years working in sales enablement, cybersecurity, and telecommunications, helping large sales organizations train B2C representatives to confidently sell complex products using real-world experience and practical storytelling. If you'd like to connect or explore sales training support, you can reach me at: In this episode of Selling with Sabine, I explain how cultural competency becomes a real sales advantage not just a concept, but a strategy that directly impacts your ability to close. Transcript: Welcome to Selling with Sabine. I'm your host, Sabine Taylor, and I want to thank you for giving me your time today. I'm going to be talking to you in this episode about a topic that I think should be covered because it's going to help many business owners who deal with a demographically diverse customer base. So, this episode is about respecting the cultural nuances of ethnically diverse customers. So, I want to talk to you about how this all got started. Years ago, I attended a workshop hosted by my former employer called "Selling to Latinos." And in that class, we also talked about how to sell to Indians. I know that title for a class or a workshop may shock some, but at the time, I was a sales trainer supporting the New York Metro territory. In that particular state, I was working with a demographic that was at least sixty percent of documented immigrants. And based on a New York 2024 annual report by the mayor's office, that's about the number they quoted for their immigrant population. And keep in mind, that's documented immigrants. And I would say from experience that when you consider documented and undocumented, I would say the population is almost seventy-five percent to eighty percent immigrants. All you have to do is get on a New York subway train, and you will see what I'm talking about. Everyone speaks a different language. So, with that being said, that number, whether sixty percent or eighty percent, is very important because that represents a massive audience that shops differently. And that's no shade to them. It's a reality that you must understand to be successful if you sell to demographically diverse markets. So, for context, I am a proud first-generation African American who grew up in Brooklyn and Queens, and I watched my family hold special meetings with relatives before any major purchase. They wanted to be well educated and to ensure that they weren't going to be taken advantage of because English was their second language, and that their cultural shopping norms would not cause them to be treated differently in the sales process. So, a quick story I want to share is when I was nineteen, my parents called me. It was a very brief conversation. They said, "We want to buy an investment property." And I responded with one word, "Okay." I simply understood the assignment. I went to my accounting professors, and I said, "Hey, my parents want me to buy an investment property." So, after talking to them, I purchased a real estate book. And I bought the book based on their recommendations, and I studied it while I worked a part-time job. Now, when I hired the real estate agents, they didn't take me seriously. They would generally ask for my parents. And, basically, I had to fire one of them for failing to follow the sales process, and their delivery wasn't that professional. And the real estate agents assumed that my role as a child stepping in for my parents wasn't legitimate, even though we received the qualification letter from the bank that we qualified to buy a house. So, with that said, in many immigrant families, it's very common for young adults to take on significant financial responsibility. For me, that was normal. But for some of those realtors I was dealing with, it was not normal, particularly those who lack the cultural awareness to recognize and respect that dynamic. So, now let's talk about cultural competency in those communities. You see, trust for any customer, whether it's immigrant or not immigrant, is the ability to break the ice so that way that customer can feel comfortable with you. So, for instance, when I took the "Selling to Latinos" class, I learned that when talking to Spanish-speaking customers, if I was dealing with a man, I would say "Señor." If I was working with a woman who is under twenty-five, I would say "Señorita." If she was over twenty-five, I would call her "Señora." And in doing that, again, it would break the ice, and the customers would feel more comfortable in telling me about their needs. So, what I'm saying is that cultural competency can become your sales edge, all things being equal with your competition, such as price and the information you're giving the customer. But when you respect those nuances, like how they'll want to be identified—and also, in the class, I learned the Indian community shops in a group there's not one stakeholder; there are many stakeholders. So, some sales reps like to ignore the friends and family that the buyer brings with them. But if you understand that you've got to treat everybody with respect and listen to everyone's questions, those customers will see that. And instead of shopping the competition because you couldn't relate to them, they're going to stay with you because they're going to be like, "Okay, he or she gets me, and I feel respected. I feel seen. Let's close this deal." So, again, when you show respect for those cultural norms, oftentimes you will win. And what I mean by that is you will close more sales and increase your revenue. Because whether it's an immigrant or nonimmigrant, they do the same things all buyers do: they check the competition. And what could be different between you and your competitors is how you show up, how you make them feel seen, and in turn, they will feel respected and want to do business with you. So, that is it for this episode. I hope that you've gotten some value out of it. If you want to reach out to me, you can do so by emailing me at sellingwithsabine@gmail.com. If you are serious about training your sales team, you can also send me an email with your specific request, and I'd love to talk to you about it further. I have a ton of experience training people in retail stores and our call centers. And that is it for me today. I hope you have a wonderful day. Bye.

    7 min
  8. Mar 26 ·  Video

    The Practice Advantage: Close More Deals—Even Without Perfect English

    Welcome back to selling with Sabine. I'm Sabine Taylor, your host. A little bit about me is that I've spent years working in sales enablement, cybersecurity, and telecommunications… helping sales professionals in those environments communicate their product values and close with confidence when working with their customers. So if you're a small business owner ready to sell more effectively and show up more confidently, you're in the right place. If you'd like to connect or explore sales training support, you can reach me at sellingwithSabine@gmail.com. Now today's episode is a little bit more personal because what I'm about to share isn't just a story. It's directly connected to a conversation I had recently, and I haven't been able to take that story out of my mind. So with that said… let's get into it… The other day, I was talking to a business owner, someone whose shop I actually go to for a steam head massage. And I asked him, how's business going? And he said it's getting better. But with certain customers, he shared that he felt intimidated because his English or, excuse me, his English wasn't that strong. And that stayed with me, not just because of what he said, but because of what it reminded me of. Because I'm a first generation African-American. I grew up in a household where my parents spoke Haitian Creole to each other and to us. English was their language that was used for the outside world. Inside our home, it was something entirely different. And layered on top of that, I grew up in a house where children were to be seen and not heard. There was no Sabine, tell me what you think. It was Sabine, do this, not that. Sabine, did you finish your homework? Go take a shower. Go to bed. It was commands and structure, and I followed. So I never had the opportunity to practice sharing my thoughts on anything… And that environment shaped me in two very specific ways, my silence and my perception. Now let's talk about perception. Because when you're always listening, you start picking up on everything, people, tonality, their energy, and what's being said between the lines. And because of that, I always had thoughts about what I was hearing and a lot of them, but I didn't yet have the structure, vocabulary to express them clearly. And over time, that started to show up. It showed up in my friendships, especially with girls. But with the guys, they wanted me to be around, and I'll be honest with you, I just had to exist. They didn't even care if I said anything. But with girls, girls connected through conversations, storytelling, back and forth energy, and I couldn't easily step into that rhythm. So, again, I stayed quiet. Now…I want to talk about one particular incident with my roommate where she told me I gave cheap conversation… It's funny now, but I found it offensive then. And, honestly, I understood why she said that. She would have full conversations with people we knew, but the moment they left the room, she would call them stupid, and that didn't sit right with me. But, again, I did not have the language or the confidence to say that. So, again, I stayed quiet. Then life introduced a different kind of pressure, the pressure that you face on job interviews. And the interviews exposed my poor speaking skills at the time because I couldn't answer questions on the spot. I needed time. In fact, too much time. And by the time I said anything, the interviewer looked so bored and wanted to wrap things up immediately. So the rejections just started to pile up so much that I probably could have turned them into wallpaper. So I made a decision. If I wasn't naturally fast at my responses, I was going to have to prepare differently. So I came up with a plan. I hid a recorder in my purse during the job interviews. I went home, and I wrote down every question and practiced my responses in the mirror until they felt natural to me. And that practice, that's what changed the game for me, and that's what got me hired… at some very large companies. And here's where the story takes a funny turn. The jobs I landed were in sales, where I had to speak to people and communicate in English. But the great thing is the companies trained me on exactly what to say, how to say it, and how to guide the conversation from start to close. So I continued to practice, and I repeated my practice, and I refined my practice. And, eventually, I became a sales trainer, teaching others how to communicate, and that's why I have this podcast today. So let me just pause right here. And I want to be very clear. In my opinion, today, I'm still not a strong English speaker. Of course, I can speak very well about sales because I've received a lot of professional development. So this brings us to the real conversation of nature versus nurture. Maybe you come into this country with a skill. You know how to do hair. You can give an incredible massage. You cook amazing food. You run your business, at least the operations, with great precision. That's nature. What you develop through your environment, your upbringing, your culture… But confidently communicating in English to sell your services, that wasn't part of your environment. Nobody trained you on that. Nobody showed you how to guide a customer from hello to let me take care of you with this specific service, and that's important because it reframes everything. Not knowing how to speak perfect English is not a weakness. That's just a missing skill set, and skills can be learned, and that's where nurture comes in. Nurture is what you build. It's the environment you create for yourself or for your staff. It's the decision to practice even when no one is training you. But here's the key. That only works if you're motivated. For me, it was intrinsic motivation. I had to pay the bills. I had to figure out how to land these jobs, and I paired that with a growth mindset, the belief that I could learn what I wasn't born with. Now let's bring this back to you. When a customer walks into your shop, more than likely, they're already interested. They're already open. They just need guidance. And from my particular experience with that business owner, he has a very specific type of service he offers to customers. It's like a waterfall head massage, and not everyone has that business. So if someone comes into that shop, more than likely, they're looking to get that service. However… if you feel your English isn't so strong as he did, he just needs to practice, and so do you. So even if you just have fifteen to twenty minutes a day practicing how you talk about your services, you'll start to see a shift. You'll convert more conversations from customers who are just stopping in to see what your service is about to let me sign you up for this service… that you're telling them about. You'll confidently recommend add ons. You'll increase the value of every interaction. And what I mean by that, if the customer is just testing out the service and just pays for the basic, you can then use your sales skills to attach additional products. And in his case, he sells shampoos, conditioners, and massage oils. So I do want to ground this just a little bit. When I say nature over nurture, I'm not dismissing where you come from. I'm not saying that… growing up in a country where English is not your native language defines your success in sales. But what I am saying is that your commitment to practice does impact your success in sales. Again, nature is what you're given with. Nurture is what you develop. And what you build through consistency usually equals a win, and that's… meaning more revenue for you, and that's always a win. So if I can go from speaking in circles to becoming someone who trains others how to communicate… and let me tell you, that did not happen by chance. It happened through intentionality. I had to practice daily, and that same path is available to you. Fifteen to twenty minutes a day, that's it. That's the difference. So when you get in your morning huddle, when you first open your shop, practice with your coworkers. They can pretend that they're the customer. You can pretend that you're the business owner, and just keep practicing. That can make a big difference in sales. But, again, the keyword is intentionality. So that wraps up this episode of selling with Sabine. If you're a serious business owner and want to strengthen your sales approach for yourself and for your team, you can reach me directly at selling with Sabine @gmil.com com. And my name is spelled s a b, and that's b like beautiful, I n e, and that's selling with Sabine altogether, no spaces, @Gmail.com. Alright. I hope you enjoyed this episode, and I'll catch you later. Have a great day. Bye… https://www.linkedin.com/in/sellingwithsabine/

    10 min

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Sabine, the host of the "Selling with Sabine" podcast, is a certified sales expert with extensive experience working with Fortune 150 tech companies, including telecommunications and cybersecurity. She also holds an Adult Learning Graduate certificate and utilizes her knowledge from her Instructional Design Graduate program to design and develop sales training assets, such as job aids and micro e-learning courses, for her clients. In her podcast, Sabine guides salespeople, solopreneurs, business owners, and aspiring entrepreneurs on a short episodic journey of how to incorporate sales and service best practices to achieve greater success. If you'd like to connect with Sabine for your training or speaking needs, you can message her on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/thesalestrainingarchitect/. Don't forget to follow her for more insightful content, and share the podcast with your friends, family and business associates!