Conversations with MarTech

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As publishers turn to low-value and AI-generated content, they’re missing out on authenticity and original points of view.  Conversations with MarTech is a new series highlighting interesting points of view and interesting roles in the marketing and marketing operations space. Season 1 of Conversations with MarTech debuts in January 2025. The premier season has already recorded five episodes, including: Kara Heater, Director of Marketing for the Savannah Bananas baseball club (What can marketers learn from the Savannah Bananas?)Mark Stouse, CEO of ProofAnalytics (What do C-level executives think of their GTM strategies?)Len Devanna, VP of Customer Experience  of Cortico-X. (Voice agents will change how you think about your brand and website)Natalie Silverstein, Chief Innovation Officer, Collectively. (How influencer marketing became an essential channel)Mike Rizzo, founder, MarketingOps.com (Want to understand marketing ops? Talk to this guy)Subscribe to keep up-to-date on all things Conversations with MarTech!

  1. 2d ago

    What’s Next in Content Operations? Agents (What Else?)

    The sheer volume of content modern marketing teams are expected to produce is reaching a breaking point. Between shifting global regulatory landscapes like the EU AI Act, constant updates to copyright laws, and the pressure to maintain an authentic brand voice, marketers are caught in a permanent state of triage. In the season four premiere of Conversations with MarTech, we sit down with Misti Vogt, SVP of Engagement at Orange Logic, to discuss why the traditional ways of managing digital assets are failing, and why the future of content operations belongs to "agentic" systems. The shift back to IT and the need for ‘self-aware’ content  For years, digital asset management (DAM) platforms were viewed merely as repositories for finished creative assets. However, Vogt points out a massive blind spot: the buyers for these platforms are shifting back to IT departments. Why? Because in an AI-driven ecosystem, information architecture and data context are everything.To thrive in an agentic future, every fragment of content needs to be "self-aware." It must contain structured data detailing: Why and when it was created. Who the target audience is. Its full lineage (parent assets, derivatives, and child assets). How it is performing in the market. Enter the ‘brand agent’  While the industry has used basic AI capabilities like autotagging and facial recognition for years, Vogt explains that the true operational revolution lies in back-end orchestration — specifically, brand agents. Instead of forcing creative teams to sift through massive brand portals or Figma documents for correct logos and font files, organizations can deploy an AI agent that implicitly knows the brand guidelines inside and out. Creatives can query the agent directly or submit finished files to it for automated compliance checks before entering formal review cycles, drastically reducing time to market. Episode guide 00:00 Introduction 00:31 Meet Misti Vogt 02:04 The content explosion and evolving regulations  03:07: The shift of DAM ownership back to IT  05:38 Making content "self-aware" for an agentic future 08:37 Deploying “brand agents” in content operations  11:09 B2B marketing strategy and building authentic relationships  14:47 The biggest lie marketers tell themselves 15:23 Consumer-led personalization  16:30 Episode debrief: The upcoming martech "reckoning" This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

  2. Jul 1

    Practical advice for scaling start-up marketing

    Start-up marketing isn’t for the faint of heart, and if you want to learn how it’s done well, you can check out the highlight reels on LinkedIn, or you can spend time with someone who’s scaled marketing start up and discuss what they’ve learned. In this episode of Conversations with MarTech, Abby Strong, chief market officer and chief customer officer at Cribl, joins us to share her insights on the realities of scaling marketing for early-stage startups.  Abby discusses the critical importance of clarity, earning founder trust, and building a technical foundation for sustainable growth. Key takeaways from this episode include:  The importance of clarity; if you can’t describe the problem your company solves in one sentence, you are simply "scaling confusion." Earning the trust of founders by demonstrating a deep technical understanding of the product before translating it into value-based outcomes for customers. Why success in a growing company requires employees to embrace the current stage of the business and pivot quickly rather than dwelling on how things "used to be." Episode guide 00:00 Introduction 00:35 Meet Abby Strong 01:00 What’s missing from the common advice for start-up marketers on social media? 02:01 What do founders get wrong about start-up marketing? 03:13 Advice for talking to founders about marketing their start up 04:53 What are the most common mistakes made by start-up marketers? 07:08 What are the signs it’s time to scale marketing? 08:50 Where and when do you start building your start-up marketing team? 11:10 Advice for building out other revenue roles, like sales and customer success 12:53 What is the make up of a person who excels in start-up culture? This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

  3. Jun 10

    How events are helping marketers cut through the noise

    Marketers have more channels at their disposal than ever before, but somehow we’ve managed to fill each and every one of them with an awful lot of noise.  For some marketers, the return of in person events after the pandemic provided an opportunity to build community, create connections, and escape from the noise.  In this episode of Conversations with MarTech, we’re talking to Tara Corey, SVP of marketing at Optimizely, to explore how brands are cutting through modern content bombardment by prioritizing human connection and immersive storytelling by leaning on the value of in-person experiences. Episode guide 00:00 Introduction 00:45 Meet Tara Corey 01:22 What makes content overload seem worse today than ever before?  02:23 Is there an advantage to being the brand that doesn’t try to “out-screan” the others? 03:15 Why are in-person events thriving? What types of events are performing well? 06:22 What’s the future of events? Is it event personalization? 07:51 What types of events are Tara’s team creating? 08:39 The sweetest-smelling booth giveaway 09:07 How to create events that deliver value with less of a sales pitch 11:02 Events are a word-of-mouth experience 12:15 How do you build an event on an online community? 14:18 How does a re-brand impact the types of events you hold? 17:23 What can a theme park teach you about your brand and events? This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

  4. May 27

    AI won't save a broken organization

    Many marketers missed the initial opportunity to reimagine their organizational models before implementing AI technology. Now, they find themselves at the evolving intersection of AI, data, and modern marketing strategy. In this episode of Conversations with MarTech, Ryan Warren, Chief CRM Officer at Razorfish Warren discusses why many organizations struggle to realize the full potential of their martech stacks and how to pivot for an AI-driven future. Among the topics we discuss: • Navigating the complexity of legacy applications and point solutions by focusing on eight essential technology domains. • Viewing the flow of data from big data clouds and CDPs to the final customer experience as a unified assembly line. • The importance of establishing a common lexicon between marketers and data engineers to manage modern data foundations effectively. • How AI may lead to the disappearance of traditional "buttons" in favor of more intuitive, integrated workflows. • Using AI not just for scale, but to combat customer saturation and declining performance in direct messaging and email. • Why teaching teams to use AI effectively is a leadership responsibility that requires embedding prompts and orchestration into daily work. Episode guide 00:00 Introduction 00:38 Meet Ryan Warren, chief CRM officer at Razorfish 02:07 How did marketers blow the AI opportunity? 04:13 What does a martech stack look like in an AI world? 08:56 Have marketers failed to capitalize on using AI to help their data? 10:47 What would a conversation about data and AI in marketing look like one year from now? 12:52 Can AI help marketers avoid cognitive overload for consumers? 17:33 Do we fail at training our teams for AI? This podcast is produced by MarTech, a Third Door Media property.

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As publishers turn to low-value and AI-generated content, they’re missing out on authenticity and original points of view.  Conversations with MarTech is a new series highlighting interesting points of view and interesting roles in the marketing and marketing operations space. Season 1 of Conversations with MarTech debuts in January 2025. The premier season has already recorded five episodes, including: Kara Heater, Director of Marketing for the Savannah Bananas baseball club (What can marketers learn from the Savannah Bananas?)Mark Stouse, CEO of ProofAnalytics (What do C-level executives think of their GTM strategies?)Len Devanna, VP of Customer Experience  of Cortico-X. (Voice agents will change how you think about your brand and website)Natalie Silverstein, Chief Innovation Officer, Collectively. (How influencer marketing became an essential channel)Mike Rizzo, founder, MarketingOps.com (Want to understand marketing ops? Talk to this guy)Subscribe to keep up-to-date on all things Conversations with MarTech!