As the Dinesens Turn

Jason Dinesen

A podcast about a family moving from the U.S. to Portugal and all the adventures we get up to.

  1. Sep 17 ·  Video

    Episode 56: Living in Europe Doesn’t Mean Jet-Setting Around Europe

    One of the supposed perks of living in Europe is that you can just hop on a cheap flight and spend the weekend in Rome, Paris, Barcelona, or wherever else strikes your fancy. $25 flights! Weekend getaways! See all of Europe! Well … sort of. In this episode of As the Dinesens Turn, Jason and Tracy talk about the reality of travel when you actually live in Europe — especially when you're traveling as a family. Those cheap flights do exist, but they're not quite as cheap or plentiful as they once were. Add four plane tickets, baggage fees, hotels, transportation, and the logistics of traveling with kids, and that spontaneous European weekend can get expensive very quickly. Living in northern Portugal adds another wrinkle. Portugal isn't nearly as well connected by train to the rest of Europe as countries such as France or Germany, which means getting somewhere like Barcelona isn't necessarily as simple as hopping on a train. Then there's the other kind of travel: getting back to the United States. With Jason traveling frequently to the U.S. for work, a lot of the family's travel budget ends up going toward airfare across the Atlantic rather than European vacations. But maybe there's another way to look at it. When Porto is less than an hour away, Spain is within driving distance, and the birthplace of Portugal is practically in your backyard, perhaps the Dinesens actually travel more than they think they do. Jason and Tracy talk about cheap airlines, expensive gasoline, traveling with teenagers, their almost nonexistent history of child-free vacations, and why the European jet-setting lifestyle isn't quite as simple as it looks from the outside. Plus, with graduation trips coming up, there may finally be some more European exploration on the horizon.

  2. Aug 17 ·  Video

    Episode 54 -- When Hard Work Isn’t Enough: Were We Sold the Wrong Version of Adulthood?

    Go to college. Get the degree. Work hard. Build a career. Save for retirement. Do all the right things, and everything will work out. At least, that’s what we were told. In this episode of As the Dinesens Turn, Jason and Tracy wrestle with their growing cynicism—or maybe realism—about work, education, money, careers, and the promises their generation grew up believing. Both came of age hearing that a college degree was the ticket to a secure future. Jason remembers a high-school guidance counselor insisting that it didn’t even matter what the degree was in: just “get that piece of paper” and you’d be set for life. Tracy believed just as deeply in education and the idea that if you worked hard, followed the rules, cared about your students, and did what was asked of you, the system would reward that commitment. Then reality intervened. They talk about watching workplaces reward hard workers with more work instead of more money, seeing talented employees become too valuable to promote, and discovering that institutions don’t necessarily return the loyalty their employees give them. And then there’s money. Even as they’ve become more successful, Jason and Tracy find themselves asking a frustrating question: Why does it still feel like there’s never enough? Housing costs more. Education costs more. Everyday life costs more. The old stories about working some overtime to buy a new car with cash sound like tales from another universe. These questions have become more urgent as they talk with their own kids about what comes next. Does university still automatically make sense? Is taking on massive debt for a degree worth it? What happens when a teenager has already earned professional training and hundreds of hours of practical experience before finishing secondary school? And how do parents advise a child about a future career when AI and technology are changing entire industries faster than anyone can predict? Maybe the hardest realization is that hard work matters—but hard work alone doesn't guarantee the outcome. Luck matters. Timing matters. The economic system matters. And sometimes you can do everything you were told to do and still discover that the promised destination isn't there. It’s admittedly one of the heavier episodes of As the Dinesens Turn. But these are also conversations happening around kitchen tables everywhere: between spouses trying to understand their finances, workers questioning their careers, and parents wondering what advice they should give their children when the old advice no longer seems adequate. Jason and Tracy don’t pretend to have the answers. They’re just increasingly unwilling to accept the old answers at face value. Also, Stan the dog makes an appearance, Jason attempts to argue that being held back in kindergarten makes him basically a Millennial, and Tracy informs him that being born in 1978 does, in fact, make him Gen X. So it’s not all doom and gloom. In this episode: Were Millennials and Gen Xers sold an outdated formula for success? Does a college degree still deliver what previous generations were promised? Why hard work can lead to more work instead of advancement The financial squeeze facing families even as their incomes rise Helping teenagers decide whether university is actually the right next step Preparing kids for careers in a world being rapidly reshaped by AI Tracy’s disillusionment with higher education Jason’s growing economic cynicism Why success involves more than simply working hard And the important question: Is Jason actually Gen X? Bottom line: Maybe this isn’t cynicism. Maybe it’s what happens when experience forces you to reconsider the rules you were taught—and decide which ones are still worth passing on to the next generation.

  3. Jul 16 ·  Video

    Episode 52: Why We Stayed in Portugal When We Said We'd Probably Leave

    For years, we told ourselves—and everyone else—that our move to Portugal might only be temporary. First it was six months. Then maybe two years. But here we are, more than three years later, and we're still here. In this episode of As the Dinesens Turn, we reflect on why we chose to stay. It's not just about Portugal itself. It's about the unexpected ways our priorities changed, how our family life evolved, and why we discovered that the life we wanted looked very different from the one we had planned. We talk about raising kids in Portugal, finding a healthier work-life balance, navigating healthcare, feeling safe, building businesses in a new country, and how our definition of success has changed along the way. We also discuss the difficult first year, why the "honeymoon phase" eventually ends for most expats, and what finally convinced us that Portugal had become home. Whether you're dreaming of moving abroad, already living overseas, or simply wondering how major life decisions reshape your priorities, this episode offers an honest look at what happens after the adventure begins. In this episode: Why our original plan changedThe challenges of the first year abroadRaising children in PortugalHealthcare, safety, and quality of lifeHow our careers and priorities evolvedWhy we no longer see ourselves moving backIf you've ever wondered whether a big life change was worth it, this conversation is for you.

  4. Jul 2 ·  Video

    Episode 51: Looking Back: 9 Lessons From Our Move to Portugal

    After more than three months away, we're back! Life got busy—but for good reasons. In this episode of As the Dinesens Turn, Jason and Tracy return with a practical discussion about one of the biggest questions they get from people considering a move abroad: "If you could do it all over again, what would you do differently?" Looking back after more than three years living in Portugal, we share nine lessons we wish we'd known before making the move. Some are practical, some are financial, and some are simply about mindset—but all of them come from real experience. In this episode, we discuss: Learning the local language before you arriveWhy driving a manual transmission can matterChoosing the right location—not just the right countryPlanning realistically for financesFinding the right schools and family supportStarting the decluttering process much earlierWhen hiring local experts is worth every euroAdjusting to a different culture and bureaucracyWhy, despite everything, we'd still encourage people to take the leapThis isn't a "Portugal is perfect" episode, nor is it a list of complaints. It's an honest conversation about what surprised us, what challenged us, and what we'd tell anyone thinking about moving overseas. Whether you're dreaming of Portugal, another European country, or simply wondering what life as an expat is really like, we hope these lessons help you make a more informed—and less stressful—transition. Next episode: Why, after all the challenges, we decided to stay.

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A podcast about a family moving from the U.S. to Portugal and all the adventures we get up to.