Episode 56 of the Jason Turner Podcast. I met Caleb when I was going to film school in Portland and training at 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu. We were about the same size, so we naturally became jiu-jitsu training partners. We also both stuck around for Bang Muay Thai, which turned into its own tight group of those who liked the full spectrum of martial arts. Over time, our friendship turned into a lot more than fighting. We went on some pretty insane psychedelic journeys together, explored consciousness and our own minds, and spent a lot of time chasing strange ideas and trying to figure out what the hell is actually going on in "reality". That period of my life is something I hold dear, and Caleb has always been one of those friends I can dive deep with.After I left Portland during COVID, we didn’t get many chances to hang out anymore. Then I started making Coyote Gospel and reached out to see if he wanted to come to Idaho and help me shoot one of the fight scenes. Luckily for me, he was down to ride!He came out from Portland, jumped into the movie, and we spent a couple days with the cameras basically running nonstop. Before he headed home, we decided to turn them on one more time and sit down for a podcast before our final dinner. The conversation goes exactly where I hoped it would.We get into free will, quantum physics, infinity, consciousness, AI, religion, psychedelics, war, history, firearms, and the strange problem of trying to figure out what is actually true when reality seems to get more complicated the deeper you look. A lot of this episode is just two friends throwing ideas at each other, challenging them, changing direction, and admitting when we don’t know. That’s my favorite kind of conversation. I really believe sharing ideas is one of the greatest things we can do for each other. We pass things forward, someone else adds to them, and maybe somewhere down the line we come up with something truly valuable. -Jason ^__^ Follow Caleb: https://www.instagram.com/esch_atton https://www.youtube.com/@esch_aton Caleb's Shop: https://shooterspreference.bigcartel.com/ Follow along with me: https://www.instagram.com/jasonturnervideo Subscribe for long form conversations exploring philosophy, religion, creativity, and real life experiences through curiously authentic dialogue. Topics in this episode: Caleb White, Shooters Preference, free will, quantum physics, consciousness, artificial intelligence, infinity, psychedelics, DMT, Terence McKenna, Dennis McKenna, religion, Christianity, Gnosticism, Buddhism, skepticism, science, free speech, firearms, Second Amendment, tactical training, martial arts, Muay Thai, jiu-jitsu, 10th Planet, Coyote Gospel, filmmaking, China, Taiwan, Mao Zedong, Deng Xiaoping, 9/11, Osama bin Laden, geopolitics, war, morality, creativity.