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Where professionalism meets imperfection. The Well-led Podcast invites leaders to explore the space where the need to get results meets the reality of managing people. Discover how to demonstrate care, support, and grace for your team–because the workplace needs human leaders. https://www.one23ltd.com Formerly the comfy chairs podcast.

  1. How Leaders Maintain Good Humor

    2H AGO

    How Leaders Maintain Good Humor

    What does it mean to go to work in good humor—especially when the workplace feels heavy or demanding? In this Other Voices episode of The Well-led Podcast, two experienced leadership practitioners reflect on the role of good humor in leadership. They explore how humor is not simply about laughter, but about a mindset leaders bring with them: a balance of perspective, calm, openness, and humanity. Through personal stories and thoughtful frameworks, the contributors describe how leaders can choose steadiness over reactivity, remain hopeful without ignoring reality, and create environments where people feel safe to engage honestly. This episode offers practical insight into why good humor matters for leadership effectiveness and how leaders can cultivate it in everyday work. The latest companion toolkit, “Leading with Empathy: Practical Techniques for Sustainable Leadership,” is available now. Visit https://www.one23ltd.com/toolkits to request your free copy. When you subscribe, you’ll automatically receive future leadership tools and resources from onetwentythree ltd. And special thanks to this month’s contributors. Read on to learn more about them. Jackye Clayton is a writer, podcaster, and HR Tech people leader with 15+ years of experience in talent acquisition, recruiting leadership, and inclusive hiring. She helps leaders and organizations stop guessing and start building high-performing teams with clear, compassionate, and curiosity-driven talent strategies. Jackye Clayton ♕ - People in Squares | LinkedIn  Jackye Clayton People Puzzles  Katharine Manning is a speaker, author, and trainer who has spent more than 25 years working at the intersection of trauma and leadership. Her book, The Empathetic Workplace, provides clear direction and support for leaders who want to respond to trauma on the job with compassion, calm, and confidence.  Katharine Manning - Blackbird | LinkedIn  Blackbird  Katharine Manning Phil Wagar is a seasoned leader with extensive experience in all components of organizational development. He is a master facilitator, specializing in the subjects of leadership, learning, and change, whose strengths lie in ideation, adaptability, and forming deep connections with others. Phil Wagar | LinkedIn  Key takeaways Good humor at work is a deliberate mindset, not simply a moment of laughter. Leaders can choose their emotional posture before entering a meeting or beginning the workday. Maintaining perspective helps leaders avoid reacting impulsively to everyday frustrations. A calm and hopeful disposition allows leaders to remain open to feedback and new ideas. Humor and lightness can make difficult work more manageable without minimizing its seriousness. When leaders operate without good humor, workplaces can become tense, closed, and overly reactive. Focusing on purpose and the human impact of work helps sustain a positive leadership mindset. Cultivating curiosity and learning keeps leaders grounded during challenging situations. Recognizing the absurd or unexpected aspects of workplace life can help leaders maintain perspective. Good humor strengthens connection, trust, and resilience within teams. Timestamps [0:00:04] – Framing the episode [0:02:16] – Why good humor at work matters [0:03:30–0:04:40] – Choosing your stance [0:05:40–0:06:30] – The cost of humorless leadership [0:06:30–0:07:09] – Good humor as a leadership competency [0:07:09–0:09:00] – Volunteering-in-the-rain story [0:09:00–0:10:16] – Grief, joy, and “grief camp” [0:10:16–0:13:30] – Definition of good vs. ill humor [0:13:30–0:19:42] – Four practices for good humor [0:20:22–end] – Synthesis and call to action Keywords leadership humor, good humor at work, leadership mindset, emotional intelligence leadership, workplace culture leadership, leadership emotional regulation, positive leadership habits, workplace perspective and resilience, human leadership, leadership communication

    23 min
  2. Leaders Choose Their Attitudes

    MAR 3

    Leaders Choose Their Attitudes

    What does it mean to choose your attitude as a leader? In this episode, you’ll learn how good humor is a leadership skill rooted in choice, mindfulness, and care—not forced positivity. Through personal stories and practical tools, this conversation explores how your mood shapes your team’s experience and how to respond intentionally instead of reacting on autopilot. You’ll walk away with concrete questions and strategies to help you lead with steadiness, awareness, and humanity. The latest companion toolkit, Leading with Empathy: Practical Techniques for Sustainable Leadership, is available now. Visit https://www.one23ltd.com/toolkits to request your free copy. When you subscribe, you’ll automatically receive future leadership tools and resources from onetwentythree ltd. Key takeaways Leaders have a daily choice about their attitude and mood. Good humor is not about being funny; it is about intentional response. Your mindset can shape your entire day. Even in a crisis, you can choose your attitude. Good humor requires awareness of your influence on others. Simple self-questions can interrupt reactive behavior. Engaging your prefrontal cortex helps override fight-or-flight responses. Toxic positivity damages trust and psychological safety. Modeling emotional choice empowers your team to do the same. Good humor balances realism with care, kindness, and accountability. Timestamps [0:00:01–0:00:53] – A story about creating family house rules [0:01:06–0:01:43] – Introducing “good humor” as a leadership skill [0:01:43–0:02:06] – Welcome to the Well Led Podcast & series context [0:02:06–0:02:49] – An accident and a decision about attitude [0:03:08–0:03:52] – Defining “good humor” vs. simple laughter [0:03:52–0:04:57] – Historical “four humors” explanation [0:05:33–0:06:46] – Humor and choice-making as leadership skills [0:06:46–0:08:06] – Managing the “lizard brain” and regaining choice [0:08:06–0:10:02] – Reflective questions to guide your mood and behavior [0:08:06–0:09:20] – Reflective questions to guide your mood and behavior [0:09:20–0:11:10] – Good humor vs. toxic positivity & impact on teams Keywords leadership attitude, good humor in leadership, how to choose your mood, emotional regulation for leaders, toxic positivity at work, psychological safety, leadership self-awareness, fight or flight response at work, mindful leadership skills, demonstrating care as a leader

    12 min
  3. Why empathy improves team performance

    FEB 24

    Why empathy improves team performance

    In this episode, you will learn how empathy strengthens accountability and improves performance at work. Kate Johnson explains why empathy is not leniency, how mindset shifts shape leadership behavior, and what empathetic accountability looks like in real workplace moments. You will also hear practical guidance for supporting neurodivergent employees and understanding the Double Empathy Problem, so you can lead diverse teams with clarity, trust, and measurable results. The companion toolkit, Leading with Empathy: Practical Techniques for Sustainable Leadership, is now available from onetwentythree ltd. The worksheets are designed to help you put these ideas into practice immediately and strengthen your leadership habits. Established subscribers receive this and future leadership toolkits automatically. Looking to learn a little more about empathy and neurodivergence? Here are a few articles to get you started: Theory of Mind | Psychology Today "I Promise I'm Not Trying to Be Inconsiderate" | Psychology Today The double empathy problem   Key Takeaways Empathy is the disciplined effort to understand another person’s experience. Empathy includes both affective empathy (emotional response) and cognitive empathy (perspective taking). Listening and presence are the foundation of empathetic leadership. Empathy strengthens accountability rather than weakening it. Accountability is a support structure, not punishment. Empathetic accountability combines care with clear expectations. Mindset shifts directly influence leadership behavior and performance. Neurodivergent employees may experience and express empathy differently. The Double Empathy Problem explains barriers between differing lived experiences. Small, mindful acts of curiosity and clarity drive sustainable leadership results. Timestamps [0:00:01] – Defining empathy in leadership [0:00:26] – Recap of previous weeks on empathy [0:01:40] – Core empathetic mindsets for leaders [0:03:05] – Introducing the Leader’s Toolkit [0:05:42] – Empathy and accountability connection [0:07:20] – “Empathetic accountability” defined [0:08:55] – Neurodivergence and empathy [0:11:35] – The double empathy problem [0:13:20] – Practical leadership takeaways [0:15:25] – Closing and preview of next topic Keywords leadership empathy, empathetic accountability, empathy and performance, how to hold employees accountable, cognitive empathy, affective empathy, emotional intelligence at work, neurodiversity in leadership, Double Empathy Problem, improving team performance

    16 min
  4. How to Lead with Workplace Empathy

    FEB 17

    How to Lead with Workplace Empathy

    In this episode, you will learn how to practice empathy as a leadership skill in real workplace situations. Kate Johnson is joined by Katharine Manning, author of The Empathetic Workplace, to explore what empathy actually looks like in action. They discuss how leaders can move beyond good intentions and develop practical behaviors that build trust, strengthen psychological safety, and improve performance. You will walk away with clear steps for responding to employees who are struggling, handling trauma-informed conversations at work, and building a culture where people feel seen, heard, and supported—without lowering standards or sacrificing results. If this episode prompts you to think more deeply about trust and connection, download the current free Vulnerability and Leadership Toolkit available from onetwentythree ltd. The worksheets are designed to help you put these ideas into practice immediately and strengthen your leadership habits. Katharine Manning is a speaker, author, and trainer who has spent more than 25 years working at the intersection of trauma and leadership—first as a DOJ attorney advising on responses to crises like the Boston Marathon bombing and the South Carolina AME Church shooting, and now as an expert and thought leader on empathy at work. Her book, The Empathetic Workplace, provides clear direction and support for leaders who want to respond to trauma on the job with compassion, calm, and confidence. Join Katharine’s text list by texting “blackbird” to 833-975-1945 for weekly messages on empathy, leadership, and taking care of ourselves as we take care of others. Katharine Manning - Blackbird | LinkedIn  Blackbird  Katharine Manning  Key takeaways Empathy is a striving to understand another person’s experience, not standing in their shoes. Leadership empathy requires both thought and feeling—cognitive and affective empathy working together. Listening and acknowledging are the foundation of any empathetic response. Psychological safety increases when leaders check in regularly with their teams. Adapting your communication style is part of demonstrating care. Empathy is a powerful risk management tool because trust fuels transparency. Most adults have experienced trauma, so leaders should assume someone on their team may be carrying something heavy. The LASER method (Listen, Acknowledge, Share, Empower, Return) provides a practical framework for responding to trauma disclosures at work. Modeling vulnerability is different from venting; leaders must maintain healthy boundaries. Empathy strengthens accountability and performance rather than weakening it. Timestamps [0:00:05] Framing the conversation: empathy in the workplace [0:01:43] Working definitions of empathy and empathetic leadership [0:04:50] Empathy as a rigorous leadership skill, not a “soft” extra [0:10:06] Shifting from theory to action: what empathy looks like day‑to‑day [0:10:40] Practical tool #1: Regular check‑ins and psychological safety [0:13:28] Practical tool #2: Team “vernacular” (numbers/weather) for honest check‑ins [0:19:50] Trauma‑informed leadership and the “paper cut vs knife wound” metaphor [0:26:01] The LASER technique introduced (Listen, Acknowledge, Share, Empower, Return) [0:32:03] Empathy for self, vulnerability, and the “full cup spills over” idea [0:40:30] Empathy as a risk‑management tool and closing resources for leaders Keywords workplace empathy, empathetic leadership, psychological safety, trauma informed workplace, leadership communication skills, cognitive empathy, affective empathy, accountability and empathy, leadership trust building, LASER method

    43 min
  5. What Empathy Looks Like in Leadership

    FEB 10

    What Empathy Looks Like in Leadership

    This episode of The Well-Led Podcast: Other Voices explores what empathy really means in leadership—and why it plays a central role in building trust at work. Rather than treating empathy as a soft skill or personality trait, contributors describe it as a learned practice that requires presence, restraint, and the willingness to sit with discomfort. Through personal stories and professional reflections, this episode helps leaders understand how empathy shows up in real moments and why it changes how people experience leadership. In this episode, contributors respond to two guiding questions: How do you define empathy? And who taught you to accept empathy from others—and how did that change your leadership? Their answers reveal that empathy is shaped by experience, strengthened through relationships, and essential to creating psychological safety without lowering expectations. Request your copy of the Vulnerability in Leadership Toolkit. Guest Information, listed alphabetically Peggy Mark, Ph.D.  In her role as executive coach and leadership consultant, Peggy leverages her expertise in healthcare leadership, organizational  learning, and nursing administration to support  executives in discovering their own unique skills as a leader.   Peggy is a lifelong student of leadership and organizational change. She finds immense joy in watching others succeed in their leadership journey.  Peggy Mark - Break-Through, LLC | LinkedIn  Utkarsh Narang Utkarsh is the founder and CEO of IgnitedNeurons, a learning and development consultancy that strives to help its learners build new connections that lead to lasting change.  With an extensive background in operations and transformational coaching, he is also the host of the IgnitedNeurons podcast. Utkarsh Narang - Executive Coach Helping Ambitious Professionals Breakthrough Stuck Careers & Inner Frustration | Ignite Life Method  Ignited Neurons The IgnitedNeurons Podcast - YouTube  Angela Wale Angela has a long reputation as an insightful and compassionate professional, leader, and colleague. She currently serves as an executive nurse leader responsible for integrating technology resources with nursing practice, professional development, education and research for a regional health system.  Find Angela on LinkedIn  Key takeaways Empathy is not about being agreeable, emotional, or soft Empathy requires presence, not problem-solving Leaders often need to learn how to receive empathy before offering it Listening without fixing builds trust and psychological safety Empathy helps people feel seen, heard, and valued Empathy does not remove accountability or standards Slowing down is often the hardest part of empathetic leadership Leaders model empathy through how they respond to struggle Trust grows when empathy is consistent, not performative Empathy strengthens both relationships and results Timestamps [0:00:00] – Kate’s introduction to the Well Led Podcast & empathy theme   [0:01:36] – Peggy defines empathy as perspective-taking and compassionate listening   [0:02:40] – Peggy describes her husband teaching her to accept care and vulnerability    [0:05:54] – Utkarsh introduces himself and defines empathy as presence without control or fixing   [0:08:10] – Utkarsh’s coaching moment: being fully seen, silence, and emotional “cracking open”   [0:13:30] – Angela defines empathy as strengthening human connection through validation   [0:18:20] – Angela’s leadership example: resisting the urge to fix and asking how to best support Keywords empathy in leadership, building trust at work, empathetic leadership, psychological safety, leadership presence, human-centered leadership, leadership vulnerability, trust at work, emotional intelligence leadership, other voices podcast

    22 min
  6. Leading with Empathy at Work

    FEB 3

    Leading with Empathy at Work

    This episode introduces empathy as a core leadership competency and the second essential practice for demonstrating care. Building on the foundation of vulnerability, these Notes on Leading Well explain what empathy is, how it works in the human brain, and why leaders who practice empathy are better equipped to build trust, communicate clearly, and lead people through change. Listeners will gain a practical understanding of affective and cognitive empathy and how intentional perspective-taking improves employee well-being and organizational effectiveness. Additional resources to explore: PBS Learning Media: Mirror Neurons  Mirror Neurons and the Neuroscience of Empathy  The neurons that shaped civilization | VS Ramachandran Empathy Definition | What Is Empathy  Does Your Manager Feel Your Pain? Empathy Quiz | Greater Good Key takeaways Empathy is the effort to understand others Vulnerability creates the conditions for empathy Empathy is a leadership competency, not a trait Affective empathy is feeling with others Cognitive empathy is perspective-taking Empathy is rooted in human biology Empathy strengthens trust at work Perspective-taking improves leadership decisions Empathy supports well-being and performance Empathy becomes care when put into action Timestamps [0:00:00] – Introduction to the Well Led Podcast & leadership premise [0:00:35] – Recap: Vulnerability as a leadership competency [0:01:27] – Vulnerability as relational and needing sustainability [0:02:45] – Transition to second competency: Empathy [0:03:39] – Working definition of empathy + two forms (affective & cognitive) [0:04:22] – Affective empathy: “feelings about others’ feelings” [0:05:20] – Cognitive empathy: perspective-taking & To Kill a Mockingbird example [0:06:34] – Mirror neurons and the biology of empathy [0:08:35] – What empathy does at work & impact on trust and change [0:10:25] – Practicing empathy: observation exercise in a public space Keywords empathy in leadership leading with empathy empathy at work leadership competencies demonstrating care vulnerability and empathy perspective taking leadership human centered leadership employee well-being psychological safety

    14 min
  7. Practicing Vulnerability Without Losing Credibility

    JAN 27

    Practicing Vulnerability Without Losing Credibility

    In this episode, you will learn how vulnerability strengthens leadership effectiveness. Rather than treating vulnerability as oversharing or weakness, this lesson clarifies it as a leadership competency grounded in judgment, boundaries, and self-awareness.  We translate vulnerability into observable behaviors leaders can practice immediately, outlining what it can look like in day-to-day leadership. You will leave with concrete behaviors you can apply immediately, along with strategies for managing the emotional cost of leading openly without burning out. Download the one-page resource: Leading with Vulnerability without Burning Out Key takeaways Vulnerability is a leadership competency that requires choice and intention Withholding vulnerability increases silence, self-protection, and disengagement on teams Leaders can show vulnerability by owning mistakes, admitting limits, and sharing context Thoughtful vulnerability strengthens credibility rather than undermining competence Boundaries, judgment, and timing are essential to practicing vulnerability well Leaders can demonstrate humanity without emotional dumping or loss of authority Vulnerability carries a cost and requires attention to energy and burnout Debriefing, decompression, and reflection help leaders sustain vulnerable leadership Timestamps [0:00:00] - Introduction: Vulnerability as Daily Leadership Practice [0:01:30] - Vulnerability Cultivates Team Trust & Collaboration [0:02:35] - Review of Previous Episodes & Need for Observable Behaviors [0:03:30] - Listing Human Characteristics Leaders Face [0:05:00] - Examples: Owning Emotions and Managing Illness [0:06:40] - Tenderness Toward Teams During Difficult Times [0:08:00] - Concrete Ways to Model Vulnerability (Mistakes, Ignorance) [0:09:30] - Accepting Feedback and Building Diverse Teams [0:11:52] - Managing Costs: Debriefing, Decompression, Reflection [0:14:56] - Final Takeaways & Next Topic Preview (Empathy) Keywords vulnerability and leadership leadership effectiveness leadership competence psychological safety trust at work human leadership leadership behaviors self-aware leadership workplace culture emotional intelligence

    17 min
  8. Choosing Openness Builds Trust

    JAN 20

    Choosing Openness Builds Trust

    In this episode, Kate Johnson and Peggy Mark explore vulnerability as an intentional leadership choice rather than a personality trait. Listeners will learn how openness, self-awareness, and authenticity create trust, strengthen human connection, and support healthier workplace cultures. Through personal stories and practical reflection, the conversation reframes vulnerability as bravery and a critical skill for leaders who want to lead well. Key takeaways: Why vulnerability is a conscious leadership decision How openness builds trust and credibility The role of self-awareness in effective leadership Why vulnerability is not the same as weakness How admitting mistakes strengthens leadership presence The impact of authenticity on workplace culture Navigating conflict without losing compassion Balancing strength and softness as a leader How vulnerability supports learning and growth What brave leadership looks like in practice Timestamps: [0:00:05] Introduction to Podcast & Guest [0:01:16] Defining Vulnerability in Leadership [0:03:12] Self-Awareness and Leadership Starting Point [0:05:44] Peggy’s Personal Journey to Vulnerability [0:09:41] Affirmation of Positive Leadership Impact [0:09:53] Story: Vulnerability During Emotional Crisis [0:12:07] Creating Safe Spaces & Two-Way Vulnerability [0:20:18] Balancing Vulnerability vs. Over-Sharing [0:29:06] Fear, Boundaries, and Unpredictable Outcomes [0:35:21] Leadership Success Story from Emergency Department Keywords: vulnerability in leadership, leadership authenticity, leadership trust, human-centered leadership, self-awareness at work, brave leadership, workplace culture, psychological safety, leadership growth, effective leadership

    42 min
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Where professionalism meets imperfection. The Well-led Podcast invites leaders to explore the space where the need to get results meets the reality of managing people. Discover how to demonstrate care, support, and grace for your team–because the workplace needs human leaders. https://www.one23ltd.com Formerly the comfy chairs podcast.

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    2023 - 2026
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