Kurisko & Co

Joyce & Lee

Join us as we share our experience, expertise, and journey towards living a whole food plant-based lifestyle. Tune in to hear about aspirational aging, the latest nutritional research on disease prevention and reversal, and much more (including healthcare policy). Cheers to all things green and good! Live long and well💪🥗🧘🏻‍♀️

  1. 04/19/2024

    Heartbreaking Impact of Food on Children's Health and More. An Interview with Michael Klaper, MD.

    Dr. Michael Klaper is the Executive Director of MMF (Moving Medicine Forward). He is a distinguished physician, consultant, and educator with over 40 years of clinical experience helping patients regain their health through plant-predominant nutrition and positive lifestyle practices. He is also a long-standing member of the American College of Lifestyle Medicine. His career highlights include being on staff at the world-famous True North Health Center, which is known for medically supervised fasting and a WFPB diet to achieve weight loss and, in many cases, disease reversal.   Dr. Klaper has lectured extensively at medical schools across North America, Europe, and Australia. His enlightening presentation, "What I Wish I Learned in Medical School About Nutrition," speaks to medical students about plant-predominant diets’ abilities to prevent and reverse common Western diseases, like hypertension, obesity, Type II diabetes, and many inflammatory states.   You will not want to miss out on this enlightening conversation with Dr. Lee Kurisko and Dr. Michael Klapper concerning the link between our food, health, and the environment. Learn all about plant-based nutrition here: https://moving-medicine-forward-masterclass.teachable.com/p/mmfmasterclass11-1 Our free ebook: Quickstart Guide to a WFPB Lifestyle, can be downloaded here: https://www.kuriskoandco.com/submission www.youtube.com/@kuriskoandco

    1h 7m
  2. 01/19/2024

    Dr. Keith Smith of the Surgery Center of Oklahoma

    Dr Keith Smith, anesthesiologist, managing partner and co-founder of the Surgery Center of Oklahoma (surgerycenterok.com), and co-founder of the Free Market Medical Association (fmma.org) believes that providing medical care should be a mutually beneficial exchange between the physician and the patient. That’s how transactions work in other sectors of the economy. But being employed by a hospital pits the physician against the patient; they become financial adversaries.   The Surgery Center of Oklahoma (SCO) offers high quality care for a fraction of the cost of surgery at a hospital.  Prices are bundled and completely transparent.  Their simple successful business model highlights the contrast between thinking of health care as a good or service not unlike any other, and the convoluted and dysfunctional healthcare system dominated by government and large entrenched players such as “non-profit” hospitals and insurance companies.  Dr Smith sheds light on what is wrong in the healthcare system and explains how it is designed to benefit hospitals and insurance companies at the expense of patients and physicians.  We discuss the function of insurance and how our over-reliance on insurance to finance health care adds considerably to health care spending.  Dr Smith leaves us on an optimistic note; he sees that people (both patients and physicians) are increasingly seceding from the government run health care system and seeking out mutually beneficial exchange between physicians and patients. www.youtube.com/@kuriskoandco

    58 min
  3. 01/05/2024

    Deb Gordon and the Healthcare Consumer's Manifesto

    Join Gayle and Joyce as we talk with Deb Gordon, author of The Health Care Consumer’s Manifesto: how to get the most for your money.  Deb’s research starts with the observation that Americans consume health care differently than we consume other goods and services and seeks to understand why.  Deb explained the genesis of her research, which involved a trip to Australia, New Zealand, and Singapore to learn how healthcare consumers in those systems behave.   Manifesto is full of fascinating insights, including  that shopping is a complex process and that many Americans don’t connect the notion of shopping with their healthcare expendituresthat the American healthcare system is not built around consumers the way other industries are, and this implies that the root of the problems in our healthcare system are deep structural problemsthat empowerment in other economic transactions is bottom-up and a great example of this in healthcare is Direct Primary Care  some areas of healthcare will continue to be a challenge even if we are able to make American healthcare more consumer-focused; one such area is cancer care – cancer patients will continue to need others to advocate for themit’s not easy to define quality in healthcare; each patient has their own view and their own valuesMedicare is one of the most consumer-centric areas of American healthcare; seniors have many coverage options, and they have better financial protection than other healthcare consumersprices for mental health services are more transparent than other healthcare prices because insurance is less prevalent and many patients pay out of pocket; therapists are motivated to provide value to patients, and naming one’s fee involves declaring one’s worth Deb’s fresh perspective on American healthcare from the consumers’ vantage point provides valuable insights about why we behave differently when purchasing healthcare vs anything else, and these insights offer important clues to what is wrong in our system and how to fix it.  You don’t want to miss this fascinating conversation! You can find out more about Deb and purchase her book at debgordon.com.www.youtube.com/@kuriskoandco

    56 min
  4. 12/22/2023

    Healthcare Economist Dr. John Goodman of the Goodman Institute

    Dr. John Goodman of the Goodman Institute for Public Policy Research joins us for an insightful conversation on healthcare economics, which he states virtually no one understands because of its complexity and disconnect from normal market forces. He submits that one cannot approach healthcare delivery with supply and demand curves, so instead, he focuses on incentives. Indeed, in his acclaimed 2012  book entitled "Priceless - Curing The Healthcare Crisis," he suggests that our current system begs the wrong question, e.g., "How can I [the provider, hospital administrator, etc] squeeze more money out of the payment formula today?" Clinicians should be asking, "How can I make my service better, less costly, and more accessible to patients today?" And so, his focus is on creating good incentives as a solution to many of the issues we face.   Dr. Goodman further explains how the suppression of normal market processes has not helped any of us, be it physicians or patients. He suggests that we are really no different from the Canadians or Europeans because we have been enamored by the idea that no one should have to choose between healthcare and other uses of money. Underscoring all of this is the notion that we primarily pay for healthcare with time and not money.  We are, in essence, paying only a fraction of an inflated price since employers or the government typically pick up a majority of the tab either via direct payment for premiums or via subsidies or Medicare, etc. We ultimately have a bureaucratic system in play that not only suppresses pricing information but also creates these non-market barriers to care, such as waiting times and an endless myriad of rules and regulations that impede the delivery of care.  Gayle Brekke, PhD, and I  discuss the success of telehealth initiatives ushered in under the Trump administration and other efforts to deregulate the industry, which highlight how market forces can fulfill a market need – although it took tremendous political will to make these changes.  Despite these wins, we must contend with entrenched beliefs and existing stakeholders for whom vested interests often stifle innovation. Indeed, the politics of medicine have constructed a system that mirrors the British National Health Service in many ways. The focus is to spend money on healthy people. In Britain, seeing a physician is quite easy, but if you need diagnostics and specialty services, you will likely encounter long waiting lines and denied care. Here, stateside, we are facing the same pressures. Case in point - ACA plans are not accepted at some of our nation's leading centers, such as the Mayo Clinic, MD Anderson, Cleveland Clinic, or UTSW, to name a few. It’s ultimately a race to the bottom. What we largely have for insurance is high deductible Medicaid for the worried well. Dr. Goodman is concerned that we lack the political will to reform the system, which is unfortunate given some of his ideas on best addressing and financing care for the chronically ill and more. He discusses some of the lessons we can learn from Medicare Advantage plans, which allow for risk adjustment – so physicians actually get paid more per visit with higher acuity patients. He would like to see the role of HSA accounts expand and highlights Medicaid's Cash and Counsel program for the homebound disabled. They are actually given accounts and can choose who will provide their care. It puts control into the hands of the disabled, who are incentivized to use their dollars wisely. The program has a satisfaction rating of 90%.  As we continue to discuss and think about ways to improve healthcare delivery in the U.S., Dr. Goodman advocates for market solutions, such as Direct Primary Care. You can order his newest book, "New Way to Care: Social Protections that Put Families First,” by visiting goodmaninstitute.org. &nb www.youtube.com/@kuriskoandco

    40 min

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Join us as we share our experience, expertise, and journey towards living a whole food plant-based lifestyle. Tune in to hear about aspirational aging, the latest nutritional research on disease prevention and reversal, and much more (including healthcare policy). Cheers to all things green and good! Live long and well💪🥗🧘🏻‍♀️