Episode Summary What if hunger isn't fundamentally a food problem? What if it's a moral one? In this powerful conversation, former Executive Director of the UN World Food Programme and former U.S. Ambassador to the UN Agencies for Food and Agriculture, Ambassador Ertharin Cousin challenges us to rethink one of the world's most persistent crises. This episode is not simply about feeding people. It is about the systems we build, the policies we prioritize, the investments we make, and the values those decisions reveal. Drawing on decades of global leadership, Ambassador Cousin explains why food security cannot be separated from public health, economic opportunity, climate resilience, education, and human dignity. She shares why ending hunger requires far more than humanitarian aid. It demands long-term systems change, innovative partnerships, local leadership, measurable outcomes, and the political courage to invest differently. From groundbreaking work in Rwanda to expanding access to nutritious food in underserved communities across the United States, she illustrates how sustainable solutions emerge when governments, businesses, investors, and communities work together rather than in isolation. Along the way, she offers a compelling vision of leadership rooted in character, integrity, collaboration, and the willingness to listen before acting. Whether discussing global climate negotiations, agricultural policy, or neighborhood food banks, Ambassador Cousin continually returns to one central truth: lasting change begins by recognizing the humanity of the people these systems are meant to serve. We talk about: Why hunger is ultimately a systems challenge—not simply a food challenge The connection between food security, health, climate, and economic development What Rwanda is teaching the world about sustainable food innovation Why measuring impact is essential to creating lasting change How policy, investment, and private capital must work together Why communities already possess many of the solutions they need The leadership principles that have guided Ambassador Cousin throughout her career Practical ways every person can strengthen food security within their own community Key Moments 1:19 — The childhood that shaped a lifetime of fighting hunger 10:53 — Why recognizing the right to food changed global policy 12:41 — The leadership qualities that matter most 22:06 — Rwanda's innovative solution to child malnutrition 29:56 — America's "grocery deserts" and the hidden reality of food insecurity 34:23 — Why food systems belong at the center of the climate conversation 38:26 — The policy changes needed to transform food security 43:16 — Ambassador Cousin's advice for women who want to create global impact 48:21 — Where every one of us can begin About Ambassador Ertharin Cousin Ambassador Ertharin Cousin is Founder and CEO of Food Systems for the Future, an organization dedicated to building healthier, more sustainable, and more equitable food systems around the world. She previously served as Executive Director of the UN World Food Programme, the world's largest humanitarian organization addressing hunger, where she led emergency food assistance efforts for more than 80 million people annually across more than 75 countries. Earlier, she served as the United States Ambassador to the UN Agencies for Food and Agriculture in Rome. Named one of TIME's 100 Most Influential People, one of Forbes' World's 100 Most Powerful Women, and one of Foreign Policy's 500 Most Powerful People on the Planet, Ambassador Cousin continues to advise governments, investors, businesses, and international organizations on creating food systems that improve nutrition, strengthen economies, and build long-term resilience. Connect with Ambassador Ertharin Cousin Food Systems for the Future https://www.fsfinstitute.net LinkedIn https://substack.com/@robbinjorgensen Connect with Robbin Jorgensen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbinjorgensen/ Supporting Sponsor As a woman navigating financial decisions — especially when the system wasn’t built with you in mind — having the right partner matters. For three decades, Godfrey Financial has intentionally centered women in financial decision-making — not as an afterthought, but as leaders. In a field where women are often expected to sit to the side, Godfrey Financial places women at the head of the table — creating space where women don’t just discuss confidence and agency, but experience it in practice. Learn more at: https://godfreyfinancial.com