We’re joined by Gabriel Scheer, who leads energy, built environment, transport and water investments at Elemental Impact. Before that, he was on the founding team at Lime, one of the few billion-dollar companies to come out of climate tech. Elemental is an unusual investor. It’s a nonprofit. Instead of LPs expecting a financial return, it raises philanthropic and corporate capital, invests it, and recycles any exit proceeds into the next company. Around 165 companies in 16–17 years. That structure lets it play where venture often struggles. A startup has built the thing once. Later-stage capital wants to see it built five more times, in different places and conditions. In between sits a gap that is hard to fund, and that is exactly where first-of-a-kind climate hardware gets stuck. We recorded this one in a restaurant at Hello Tomorrow in Amsterdam, and covered a lot of ground: from convincing cities to let Lime onto their streets, to a new financing instrument, to getting Microsoft, Meta, Google and Amazon to learn from the same pilots. In our conversation, we covered: → What operating at Lime teaches you that investors underestimate, and why culture mattered so much in a company scaling into new cities fast → Why Lime was as much B2G as B2C: if a city wasn’t happy, there was no business → Why policy may be one of climate’s biggest levers, and why you probably shouldn’t build a company on policy alone → How US climate policy has whiplashed, and why state and local policies keep moving anyway → How Elemental works: a nonprofit, evergreen model with a strategy track ($250–500k plus coaching) and a project track for first-of-a-kind deployments → Whether venture capital is built for climate hardware, from closed-loop geothermal to venture money pouring into nuclear → Whether Europe and the US can learn to build as fast as China again → What 165 investments taught Elemental about founder communities and choosing aligned investors → The deSAFE: a callable SAFE note for early project development, and how Fervo and Nitricity used it → The Data Center Innovation Initiative: one pot of capital, one set of pilots, and shared results across four hyperscalers → Which technologies the hyperscalers want: green cement, long-duration storage, cooling, materials and grid optimisation Asked what he wants listeners to remember, Gabriel’s answer was simple: “It takes a village.” Pick your team and your investors carefully, and find the people who will support you along the way. **** Reach out to Gabriel Scheer: Gabriel Scheer → Gabriel Scheer on LinkedIn Elemental Impact → elementalimpact.com **** Subscribe to the newsletter: New Wave | Hugo Rauch | Substack **** New Wave is supported by: Evertrace: the leading founder detection engine for VCs. It traces signals across the digital landscape to uncover emerging founders earlier than anyone else, so you meet tomorrow’s founders today. I use it myself to source more deals at Climate Club, and I LOVE it. See what Evertrace can do for you here, or ask me for an intro and get a little something from the team ;) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit newwavenewsletter.substack.com