Make It Plain Podcast

Kehinde Andrews
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We are running a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, 'What Would Malcolm Say?' where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm's body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain. You can watch the entire documentary for free at Nobody Can Give You Freedom: The Real Miss... Film was made by Michael Ellis Films Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/ Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/ Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176 Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books Written and hosted: Kehinde Andrews Artwork: Assata Andrews YouTube: Kadiri Andrews

  1. 3D AGO

    Bafta's N-word spectacle, Reform lose and Neo-colonial education with Wandia Njoya

    Reflecting on the flooding of the timeline with Bafta's N-word coverage Kehinde opens by saying that we've missed the point. We focus on the spectacle and not the real issue. Of course the BBC shouldn't have aired the N-word and the Bafta's should have showed more care... but we expect too much from a racist system.  Speaking of a racist system, Kehinde addresses the Green Party's win in the Gorton and Denton by election. Thankfully, Reform's less than mediocre White male candidate Matthew Goodwin lost out but the far right party remains a threat, particularly if they make a coalition with the next Prime Minister of the UK....Kemi Badenoch He is then joined by the Dr Wandia Njoya  is a prominent Kenyan scholar, public intellectual, and social commentator known for her critical analysis of education, culture, and politics in Africa. She is an Associate Professor of Literature at Daystar University in Kenya, where she has also served as the Head of the Department of Language and Performing Arts. Wandia holds a PhD in French from Pennsylvania State University. Her scholarly work focuses on French and African literature, film, gender issues, and the interrogation of "what it means to be human" in the modern world. Dr Njoya is one of the most vocal critics of Kenya's Competency-Based Curriculum (CBC). She argues that the system prioritizes "practicality" and neoliberal productivity over genuine critical thinking and the arts. She frequently writes about decolonising the African mind and the academy, drawing inspiration from figures like Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o, Thomas Sankara, and Malcolm X. Her blog, Wandia Njoya, has won multiple awards from the Bloggers Association of Kenya (BAKE) for its commentary on social issues. She is a regular contributor to The Elephant, where she publishes analyses on political elite culture, gender, and education Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/ Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/ Find out about the Convention for Afrikan People: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/ Written and hosted by Kehinde Andrews Produced by Kadiri Andrews Artwork by Assata Andrews

    1h 13m

  2. FEB 21

    S4. Ep1. Listen to Malcolm + RIP Jesse Jackson + Don't be afraid of 'Big Bad' Farage

    Make it Plain returns for a new series on the 61st anniversary of the assassination of Malcolm X. For this first episode we are featuring Malcolm's speech in 1962 in LA to rally protest the police killing of Nation of Islam member Ronald Stokes. We always say to listen to Malcolm, so we are running the speech in full (all proceeds to the Malcolm X and Betty Shabazz Education Center in Harlem, from this episode). Kehinde opens talking about the death of Jesse Jackson and reflecting on the age of the Southern Wolf, where the racism on both sides of the Atlantic is right in your face. For US Black History Month get your copy of Kehinde's book on Malcolm X Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Watch the documentary at: https://youtu.be/7ZBZyaruoGo?si=zzDwdNZtI1WrA3J2 Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176. In the US at https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/ Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/ Find out about the Convention for Afrikan People: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/ Written and hosted by Kehinde Andrews Produced by Kadiri Andrews Artwork by Assata Andrews

    1h 2m
  3. What Would Malcolm Say About...Electoral Politics? + Full Interview Dr Jared A. Bal

    07/07/2025

    What Would Malcolm Say About...Electoral Politics? + Full Interview Dr Jared A. Bal

    Final episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, 'What Would Malcolm Say?' where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm's body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain. You can watch the entire documentary for free at    • Nobody Can Give You Freedom: The Real Miss...   Film was made by @MichaelEllisFilms To close out the mini-series Kehinde reflects on his experience at the asks, 'What Would Malcolm Say About… Electoral Politics'. With Zohran Mamdani's win in the Democratic primary for New York mayor, and Jeremy Corbyn and Zahra Sultana starting a new left political party there is a resurgence of hope in electoral politics. But Malcolm would warn us that the political system can no more provide our freedom, than a 'chicken can lay a duck egg'. We run the full interview with Dr Jared A. Ball @imixwhatilikejaredball from the Nobody Can Give You Freedom film and we have truly saved the best for last.Wide ranging discussion with the co-editor of A Lie of Reinvention Get A Lie of Reinvention https://www.blackclassicbooks.com/a-l... Check out Jared's YouTube Channel    / @imixwhatilikejaredball   Check out Black Liberation Media    / @blackliberationmedia   Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/46007... Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/tit... Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/ Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/ Find out about the Convention for Afrikan People: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-... Written and hosted by Kehinde Andrews Produced by Kadiri Andrews  Artwork by Assata Andrews

    1h 19m
  4. What Would Malcolm Say About...Reparations? Plus full interview with Dr Olivia Rutazibwa

    06/30/2025

    What Would Malcolm Say About...Reparations? Plus full interview with Dr Olivia Rutazibwa

    Fifth episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, 'What Would Malcolm Say?' where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm's body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain. You can watch the entire documentary for free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBZyaruoGo&t=136s Film was made by @MichaelEllisFilms  With Jamaica calling on King Charles to support reparations, Kehinde explains what Malcolm would say about the reparatory justice movement today. From the Caribbean Community to the American Descendants of Slavery, reparations are on the agenda, but lacking the radical roots from Malcolm's time. Malcolm famously explained that 'if you stick a knife in my back nine inches, and pull it out 6 inches that is not progress...you have to heal the wound'. Using that yardstick we must understand that the West can never repay the debt, that reparations are revolution. Plus we share the full interview with Dr Olivia Rutazibwa from the Nobody Can Give You Freedom film Find out more about Dr Rutazibwa at https://www.lse.ac.uk/sociology/people/academic-staff/olivia-umurerwa-rutazibwa Find out who sists on the judicial committee on the Privy Council https://jcpc.uk/  Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176 Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/ Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/ Find out about the Convention for Afrikan People: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/ Written and hosted by Kehinde Andrews Produced by Kadiri Andrews Artwork by Assata Andrews

    57 min
  5. What Would Malcolm Say...about Diddy? Plus full interview with Sayce Holmes-Lewis from Mentivity

    06/23/2025

    What Would Malcolm Say...about Diddy? Plus full interview with Sayce Holmes-Lewis from Mentivity

    Fourth episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, 'What Would Malcolm Say?' where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm's body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain. You can watch the entire documentary for free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBZyaruoGo&t=136s Film was made by Michael Ellis Films This week Kehinde breaks down what Malcolm would say about Diddy, Tyler Perry, R-Kelley, Cosby and all the other accusations of sexual abuse facing some high profile Black celebrities. You best believe Malcom would be mad both at the lack of protection for Black women and how we have been building up the wrong people in the first place. We shouldn't ben adoring those in the House and then wandering why many are fallen idols. Plus we share the full interview with Sayce Holmes-Lewis from Mentivity from the Nobody Can Give You Freedom film Find out about Mentivity: here https://www.mentivity.com/ Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176 Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/ Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/ Find out about the Convention for Afrikan People: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/ Written and hosted by Kehinde Andrews Produced by Kadiri Andrews Artwork by Assata Andrews

    1 hr
  6. What Would Malcolm Say...about Palestine? Plus Kehinde's parents on British Black Power

    06/16/2025

    What Would Malcolm Say...about Palestine? Plus Kehinde's parents on British Black Power

    Third episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, 'What Would Malcolm Say?' where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm's body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain. You can watch the entire documentary for free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBZyaruoGo&t=136s Film was made by Michael Ellis Films This week Kehinde introduces the episode wishing all the Black fathers out there a Happy Fathers day. Despite the stereotypes research shows we are the most likely to be active in our children's lives. In light of the recent hostility between Israel and Iran he then discusses what Malcolm would say about Palestine. Malcolm was firmly behind the Palestinian people, linking the struggle for Black freedom to those of oppressed people around the globe. There is no contradiction in trying to build Black independence AND supporting other oppressed groups. Both are essential. Read Malcolm's piece Zionist logic here https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/socialist-viewpoint-us/mayjun_05/mayjun_05_21.htm Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176 Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/ Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/ Find out about the Convention for Afrikan People: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/ Written and hosted by Kehinde Andrews Produced by Kadiri Andrews Artwork by Assata Andrews

    1h 9m
  7. What Would Malcolm Say? ep.2: George the Poet + Ibrahim Traore is the anti-Mandela

    06/09/2025

    What Would Malcolm Say? ep.2: George the Poet + Ibrahim Traore is the anti-Mandela

    Second episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, 'What Would Malcolm Say?' where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm's body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain. You can watch the entire documentary for free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBZyaruoGo&t=136s Film was made by Michael Ellis Films This week Kehinde introduces the episode talking about Ibrahim Traore and the importance of building a Black united front to support radical politics. He also uses Malcolm's words to warn that 'these leaders over here who are receiving the praise and pats on the back from the Americans, you can just flush the toilet and let them go right down the drain'. There is no better example of this rule than Nelson Mandela, who Malcolm would have dubbed a 'modern day Uncle Tom'. We then play the full interview with George the Poet, at the LSE Old Theatre where Malcolm gave one of his last international speeches.  Check out George's book 'Track Record' https://afroribooks.co.uk/products/track-record-me-music-and-the-war-on-blackness-by-george-the-poet-published-25th-april-2024?srsltid=AfmBOorrftYmmf51MHUgrufsx7gtN96eIfYfS2_4lMr00PX_2US3j8cT Have you heard George's Podcas? https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07915kd/episodes/downloads Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176 Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/ Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/ Find out about the Convention for Afrikan People: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/

    1h 7m
  8. Ep.1 What Would Malcolm Say? With Dr Ilyasah Shabazz

    06/02/2025

    Ep.1 What Would Malcolm Say? With Dr Ilyasah Shabazz

    First episode in a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, 'What Would Malcolm Say?' where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm's body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with some featured in the documentary Nobody Can Give You Freedom, which was independently made by Make it Plain. You can watch the entire documentary for free at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZBZyaruoGo&t=136s  Film was made by Michael Ellis Films https://www.youtube.com/michaelellisfilms   This week Kehinde introduces the series and starts off getting a few things off his chest since it has been a while since he did a podcast. He covers Trump 2.0, the con of academics using complicated language to justify their salaries, and the what Malcolm would have said about the how we organise following the fifth anniversary of the death of George Floyd. Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176 Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books  Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/  Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/  Find out about the Convention for Afrikan People: https://make-it-plain.org/convention-of-afrikan-people/

    1h 1m
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We are running a special series of the Make it Plain podcast, 'What Would Malcolm Say?' where Kehinde Andrews explains what Malcolm's body of work tells us about what is going on in the present. Each episode will also feature a full interview with someone featured in the documentary 'Nobody Can Give You Freedom', which was independently made by Make it Plain. You can watch the entire documentary for free at Nobody Can Give You Freedom: The Real Miss... Film was made by Michael Ellis Films Support Make it Plain: https://make-it-plain.org/support-us/ Join Harambee OBU https://www.blackunity.org.uk/ Get your copy of Kehinde's book Nobody Can Give You Freedom. Out now in the UK at https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460078/nobody-can-give-you-freedom-by-andrews-kehinde/9780241681176 Out in the US on 9th September https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kehinde-andrews/nobody-can-give-you-freedom/9781645030706/?lens=bold-type-books Written and hosted: Kehinde Andrews Artwork: Assata Andrews YouTube: Kadiri Andrews

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  • Creator
    Kehinde Andrews
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    47
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2024
  • Show Website
    Make It Plain Podcast

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