In this episode, Helen Bass talks to Gower Lee - Biblical Counselor at New Life Presbyterian & online instructor at Christian Counseling and Educational Foundation. Gower & Helen chat about church hurt, anxiety, and healing from a biblical lens. Learn more about Gower - Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/gowerlee/ - Gower's bio - https://rootedministry.com/bios/gower-lee/ If these videos help you think differently, subscribe and join me each week. Connect with Helen - 🌿 Therapy: www.sincerepractice.com 💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/helenbass/ 🎥 Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@itshelenbass If you're new here, I'm Helen Bass. I'm a licensed therapist, educator, and content creator passionate about making psychology practical and accessible. I create videos that help people understand themselves, build healthier relationships, navigate cultural identity, and grow into lives that feel authentic—not just successful.A little about my journey... • Earned my Master's degree in Social Work. • Became a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW). • Founded Sincere Practice, where I work with individuals navigating trauma, anxiety, relationships, and identity. • Specialized in working with Asian American and multicultural communities while advocating for culturally responsive mental health care. • Expanded into teaching, speaking, and creating educational content to bring therapy beyond the therapy room. • Currently pursuing opportunities in research to improve culturally competent mental health care, therapist training, and trauma-informed practice. Today, my mission is simple: To make psychology understandable, evidence-based, and genuinely helpful for everyday life. Here you'll find conversations about: • Psychology & mental health • Relationships & attachment • Asian American identity & culture • Trauma recovery & emotional wellness • Career, purpose, and personal growth Whether you're healing, growing, or simply trying to understand yourself better, I hope these conversations remind you that meaningful change starts with awareness. Educational Disclaimer The information shared on this channel is intended for educational and informational purposes only and should not be considered psychotherapy, medical advice, or a substitute for working with a licensed mental health professional. Watching these videos does not establish a therapist-client relationship. If you're experiencing a mental health crisis, please contact your local emergency services or a qualified mental health provider. Timestamps 00:00 Introduction 02:10 Meet Gower Lee: From Teacher to Biblical Counselor 04:20 Gower's Journey into Ministry & Seminary 10:21 Balancing Motherhood, Ministry & Calling 14:18 Helen's Story: Therapy, Trauma & Becoming a Therapist 16:03 Biblical Counseling vs. Clinical Therapy 23:27 Understanding the Root of Anxiety & Addiction 29:12 Why We Can't Control Everything 32:41 God's Power, Weakness & Everyday Grace 35:48 Healing from Church Hurt 43:39 How to Begin Healing After Church Hurt 48:06 Avoiding Compassion Fatigue as a Counselor 53:13 Building Community as a Counselor 57:18 Final Encouragement & Closing Thoughts This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit sincerepractice.substack.com