Does the Bible say THAT?!?

David Lester
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All about the Bible. This podcast walks through the books of the Bible talking about what the sacred text says and means (as best as we can tell). This is an inclusive show for anyone, regardless of belief or non-belief, wanting to learn more about the Bible.

  1. Sep 15

    SERMON: Come and Follow Jesus (Mark 1:16-18/ Mark 10-17-22)

    Host Dave Lester preaches a sermon at Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church on 09/13/2026. The sermon is within the series: "Come to Me: The Invitations & Questions of Jesus" and is specifically titled: "Come and Follow". He speaks on the power of Jesus to transform people's lives when they let go and follow Him. Based within the Gospel of Mark 1:16-18 and Mark 10:17-22. CK Presbyterian's website: https://ckpres.org/ Sources used for this sermon: Word Biblical Commentary Volume 34a: Mark 1-8:26 by Robert A. Guelich Word Biblical Commentary Volume 34b: Mark 8:27-16:20 by Craig A Evans

  2. Sep 8

    035: The Birth of Isaac: Stefani McDade (Genesis 21:1-7)

    Stefani McDade of The Roys Report (formerly with Christianity Today as a writer and editor) joins the podcast with Mike Mason and Dave Lester to talk about her forthcoming book: Unveiled Faces: Reflecting Jesus in a World that Distorts His Image (Out in the Spring of 2027 through InterVarsity Press). We also explore the birth of Isaac to Abraham and Sarah in Genesis 21:1-7. The trio discusses their own experiences becoming parents with surprising emotion. The reflection is on how when we first saw our kids come into the world, it felt like a miracle. Also discussed is why children are circumcised on the 8th day according to Jewish tradition and culture and more. Pre-Order Stefani McDade's book right here: https://www.ivpress.com/unveiled-faces Follow Stefani McDade's work on The Roys Report: https://roysreport.com/stefani-mcdade/ Sources for this episode: *The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton *Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 16-50 by Gordon J. Wenham *The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas *The New International Commentary: The Book of Genesis: Chapters 18-50 by Victor P. Hamilton *The JPS Torah Commentary Genesis by Dr. Nahum Sarna *Womanist Midrash: A Reintroduction to the Woman of the Torah and the Throne by Wilda C Gafney

  3. Aug 3

    034: Deja Vu in the Kingdom of Abimelek (Genesis 20)

    Hosts Mike Mason and Dave Lester analyze the text of Genesis chapter 20 where Abraham and Sarah find themselves in the land of Gerar. Abraham says Sarah is his sister and King Abimelek moves to make Sarah a part of his harem. Have we seen this movie before? Why does Abraham continue to participate in these schemes? Journey along with your favorite Bible nerd hosts in exploring the passage of Genesis 20. Sources for this epsiode: *The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton *Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 16-50 by Gordon J. Wenham *The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas *The New International Commentary: The Book of Genesis: Chapters 18-50 by Victor P. Hamilton *The JPS Torah Commentary Genesis by Dr. Nahum Sarna *The Pentateuch as Narrative by John H. Sailhamer *Reading Genesis by Marilynn Robinson *Commentary on the Torah by Richard Elliott Friedman *The Gilded Age: A Tale of Today by Mark Twain

  4. Jul 14

    033: The Trauma of Lot and his Daughters: Kayla Jentes (Genesis 19:30-38)

    Co-Hosts Mike Mason and Dave Lester welcome multi-time return guest, Kayla Jentes, back on the show to talk about Lot and his daughters living in a cave. Lot is afraid in the city of Zoar so he and his daughters flee to a cave in the mountains. It is there that Lot's daughters hatch a plot to preserve their family line through sexually assaulting their father. It is a story that is morally outrageous but also contains some complexity. The hosts and guest also talk about how the point of this epilogue to the Sodom and Gomorrah account is the origin of the Moabites and the Ammonites. Follow and read Kayla Jentes' writings: https://thenerdychiro.substack.com/ Listen to the Bible Project Podcast here: https://bibleproject.com/podcasts/shows/the-bible-project-podcast/ Sources used for this episode: *The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton *Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 16-50 by Gordon J. Wenham *The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas *Come Out My People: God's Call Out of Empire in the Bible and Beyond by Wes Howard-Brook *The JPS Commentary: Genesis by Nahum Sarna *Reading Genesis by Marilynne Robinson

  5. Jun 23

    032: Judgment at Sodom and Gomorrah (Part 2): Kayla Jentes (Genesis 19:12-29)

    Co-Hosts Mike Mason and Dave Lester welcome back Kayla Jentes to walk through the rest of the Sodom and Gomorrah judgment. We end up talking a great deal about Lot's character, his relationship to God and his actions while fleeing the city that he had lived in with his family. We also discuss the wrath of God being poured out upon Sodom and Gomorrah (as well as the cities of the plains) as God spares Lot and his family. Follow and read Kayla Jentes' writings: https://thenerdychiro.substack.com/ Sources used for this episode: *The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton *Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 16-50 by Gordon J. Wenham *The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas *Come Out My People: God's Call Out of Empire in the Bible and Beyond by Wes Howard-Brook *The Bible and Homosexual Practice: Texts and Hermenuetics by Robert A.J. Gagnon *The Bible, Gender and Sexuality by James V Brownson *The Widening of God's Mercy: Sexuality Within the Biblical Story by Christopher B Hays and Richard B. Hayes *Reading Genesis by Marilynne Robinson *"Zimbardo Stanford Prison Experiment". Simply Psychology by Dr. Saul McLeod. https://www.simplypsychology.org/zimbardo.html *"New Archaeological Evidence Points to Sodom and Gomorrah's Location Near the Dead Sea" Israel365News by Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz. https://israel365news.com/413653/new-archaeological-evidence-points-to-sodom-and-gomorrahs-location-near-the-dead-sea/

  6. Jun 9

    SERMON: The Meaning of Life in the Garden of Eden

    Host Dave Lester preached about the meaning of life and the Garden of Eden at Central Kitsap Presbyterian Church on May 31, 2026. Church website: https://ckpres.org/ Sources Used for this Episode: *The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton *Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 1-15 by Gordon J. Wenham *Biologos article: "What is the Relationship Between the Creation Accounts in Genesis 1 and 2?" by J. Richard Middleton. https://biologos.org/articles/what-is-the-relationship-between-the-creation-accounts-in-genesis-1-and-2 *Biologos article: "Israel's Two Creation Stories" by Pete Enns. https://biologos.org/articles/israels-two-creation-stories *Reading Genesis 1-2: An Evangelical Conversation edited by J. Daryl Charles

  7. Jun 6

    031: Judgment at Sodom and Gomorrah (Part 1): Kayla Jentes (Genesis 19:1-11)

    Co-Hosts Dave Lester and Mike Mason are joined again by Kayla Jentes to walk through the Sodom and Gomorrah account in Genesis 19. Going long because the chapter is so filled with information, the trio only explored through verse 11. They talk about the 2 angels visiting Sodom and Lot's hospitality. They also discuss the mob that forms outside of Lot's house that is threatening to do horrible things to the visitors in the city. Part 2 is coming soon. Follow and read Kayla Jentes' writings: https://thenerdychiro.substack.com/ Sources used for this episode: *The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton *Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 16-50 by Gordon J. Wenham *The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas *Come Out My People: God's Call Out of Empire in the Bible and Beyond by Wes Howard-Brook *The Bible and Homosexual Practice: Texts and Hermenuetics by Robert A.J. Gagnon *The Bible, Gender and Sexuality by James V Brownson *The Widening of God's Mercy: Sexuality Within the Biblical Story by Christopher B Hays and Richard B. Hayes *Reading Genesis by Marilynne Robinson *"Zimbardo Stanford Prison Experiment". Simply Psychology by Dr. Saul McLeod. https://www.simplypsychology.org/zimbardo.html *"New Archaeological Evidence Points to Sodom and Gomorrah's Location Near the Dead Sea" Israel365News by Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz. https://israel365news.com/413653/new-archaeological-evidence-points-to-sodom-and-gomorrahs-location-near-the-dead-sea/ **The original posting of this episode was removed by Spotify because of the Louis Armstrong music that is traditionally played in each episode. While the song is over 100 years old and should be public domain, I will no longer use the music for future episodes.

  8. Apr 14

    030: Sarah's Laughter/ Abraham's Bargaining: Kayla Jentes (Genesis 18)

    Theologian and chiropractor Kayla Jentes joins Dave and Mike to discuss Genesis 18. We talk about the 3 strangers that came to visit Abraham and Sarah where the couple performs radical acts of hospitality. We also chat about Sarah's famous laugh from the tent and everything that means given what we know about her from the Biblical text. Finally, we dive deep into Abraham bargaining with God over the looming judgment on Sodom and Gomorrah. What can we learn about God and the nature of humanity? Follow and read Kayla Jentes' writings: https://thenerdychiro.substack.com/ Sources used for this episode: *The NIV Application Commentary: Genesis by Dr. John Walton *Word Biblical Commentary: Genesis 16-50 by Gordon J. Wenham *The IVP Bible Background Commentary: Old Testament by John H. Walton, Victor H Matthews & Mark W. Chavalas *The New International Commentary: The Book of Genesis: Chapters 18-50 by Victor P. Hamilton *Come Out My People: God's Call Out of Empire in the Bible and Beyond by Wes Howard-Brook *Womanist Midrash: A Reintroduction to the Women of the Torah and the Throne By Wilda C. Gafney Opening Music: Struttin With Some Barbeque by Louis Armstrong

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All about the Bible. This podcast walks through the books of the Bible talking about what the sacred text says and means (as best as we can tell). This is an inclusive show for anyone, regardless of belief or non-belief, wanting to learn more about the Bible.

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