Glenn is an absolutely brilliant economist and a public intellectual extraordinaire. In addition, Glenn is the pioneer of podcasting by academic economists. Glenn's remarkable podcast -- The Glenn Show -- debuted in 2008. In this episode of Economics Matters -- the Podcast, I ask Glenn to talk about the Glenn Show, including the topics and guests he's had during the show's now almost two-decade run. But as you'll hear/see, Glenn also uses this occasion to vigorously convey his long-held positions on race relations and the path to improving them. In particular, he makes a very strong case that Black America cannot expect White America to improve its position in society. As Glenn puts it, "No one is coming to the rescue." This is a marvelous podcast from a person who has dedicated a major part of his life to providing a national, politically incorrect conversation on issues of pressing concern, no matter their sensitivity. Glenn's Short Bio: Glenn C. Loury, Merton P. Stoltz Professor Emeritus of Social Sciences, Professor Emeritus of Economics, and Professor Emeritus of International and Public Affairs, is an academic economist who has made scholarly contributions to the fields of welfare economics, income distribution, game theory, industrial organization, and natural resource economics. He is also a prominent social critic and public intellectual, having published over 200 articles in journals of public affairs in the U.S. and abroad on the issues of racial inequality and social policy. A Fellow of the Econometric Society, a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and a past Vice President of the American Economics Association, Prof. Loury has been a visiting scholar at Oxford, Tel Aviv University, the University of Stockholm, the Delhi School of Economics, the Institute for the Human Sciences in Vienna, and the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, and was for many years a contributing editor at The New Republic magazine. The Glenn Show is a podcast and video series hosted by economist Glenn Loury, a professor at Brown University in Providence, Rhode Island. Glenn, a self-described Black conservative, provides heterodox perspectives critiquing both progressive and conservative extremes. The show is rated right-center biased but high in credibility for its analysis grounded in real eventsIt features in-depth conversations with guests from academia, journalism, and public affairs, focusing on race, inequality, economics, politics, and social issues. Episodes often include regular discussions with linguist John McWhorter on race and politics, alongside solo commentary and live Q&A sessions. Recent topics have covered U.S. foreign policy, identity politics, free speech, and events like ICE incidents or Epstein files. The show is available on Substack (glennloury.substack.com), Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and Bloggingheads.tv, with weekly updates and paid subscriber exclusives like early episodes and bonus content. It originated on Bloggingheads and continues through Loury's independent platform.