Dr. Joel Rosen:Right welcome back to another edition guys. And I’m excited to interview Alan Robinson. He is the founder of Genetic Insights and founder of Feel Younger. His goal is to empower committed and self-responsible people with the science-based tools they need to feel younger and improve their health. I first became interested in health and anti-aging because of his own experiences and the many health challenges throughout his own life, including chronic fatigue, chronic pain, malnutrition, hypothyroidism, IBS, and reoccurring infections, such as SIBO, Candida, and sinusitis, which made him feel way older than he was. And when conventional medicine practitioners weren’t able to help him set all of this out in desperation, he had to look within and figure it out on his own. So that’s what we’re going to be talking to him about today his health journey, how he improved his health and eventually resolved his issues, and lifelong interest in health, energy, and wellness, and the companies that he’s founded to help other people with the same problems. Oh, and thank you so much for being here today. Elwin Robinson:Thank you so much for having me, Joe. It’s a pleasure. Dr. Joel Rosen:Yeah. So you know, I’m excited to compare your journey and my journey, as it relates to what you do now with the genetic insights and how to feel younger. Perhaps you can just give us the Cliff Notes version of at worst what it was like for you when you were suffering from your health challenges. Elwin Robinson:Yeah, sure. So, you know, most recently, and that’s really what led to the founding of those two companies that you mentioned. So I’ll start at that point. I’ve been doing well for a long time after having health issues earlier, and I thought I’d been doing great. So long as I avoided certain foods, I was on top of the world, you know, plenty of energy. And I’d gone from, you know, kind of doing minimum wage jobs in my 20s to be able to start several businesses and travel the world and all that kind of cool stuff, right? I was enjoying life. And then suddenly, I got struck down with this pain condition where I kept having pain around my midsection, and no one was able to work out what it was. I had, you know, CT scan, MRI, blood tests, all of that kind of, you know, typical stuff, and then all kinds of other practitioners as well. Functional Medicine naturopath, acupuncturist chiropractor, osteopath, I mean, you know, the list goes on and on and on. All trying to work out what was going on. I had a few different theories, but no one was able to help. Along with that the constant pain and discomfort this, these digestive issues went along with it. And it got so bad that I wasn’t that I could list on one hand the food I can eat without having some kind of really unpleasant reaction. Even those foods I didn’t do very well on and I just started wasting away. I mean, I’m six foot three, and I think I got down to one 20 pounds, something like that, so I was really, I wouldn’t be emaciated might be a bit far. But for someone who’s trying to eat as much as possible, I was, you know, seriously wasting away. Along with that came extreme fatigue, extreme anxiety, you know, like being emotionally all over the place, as I said constant pain, and I wasn’t able to function. And I tried all the usual kinds of things, things I already knew to do to be healthy, because I already lived from the surface, maybe not to someone as sophisticated as yourself. But to any normal person, I would seem to live an extremely healthy lifestyle. And yet, you know, it wasn’t working I as I said, tried every practitioner under the sun, and none of them were able to help either. And eventually, I just, I realized that, you know, I was going to have to work this out for myself. The first breakthrough came through doing a kind of genetic testing. That was where I first got, maybe not all the answers, but the first clues as to what might be going on and helped me to work it out. Dr. Joel Rosen:Well, I’m glad that you did. And now you’re here to help other people. An interesting question is, I had contact with the patient the other day, and she’s dealing with, you know, right upper quadrant pain. And I was getting just sort of background information on what she’s been dealing with and what she’s done. And I asked her about the genetic test. And she looked at me like, that was the most craziest question, why would she want to look at genetics? What does that have to do with anything? So I guess the question would be, how did you go from learning all the things that you did with what didn’t work and having to take, the ball in your own hands and figure this out on your own? And how did that get into the world genetics is the next option. Elwin Robinson:It’s pretty random, to be honest, I mean, you know, I guess the kind of person who watches this kind of podcast is similar in that they become a little bit obsessed, right, and you know, you’re watching everything you can reading everything you can, you know, I’m sure I read hundreds of books over that year, literally, because I wasn’t working much as much else to do, let alone watching and listening and all the rest of it, and signed up for lots of people’s newsletters, and just got a random email and decided, you know, let’s give it a go from, you know, a particular company. And I had never heard of it, as you said, like, a lot of people had never occurred to me. But I’ve done a lot of testing, and it tends to be very expensive and inconvenient. And also, you have to wait a long time to get results. And so, you know, the cost seemed reasonable. And I was especially impressed that I could get results within a few hours, I was like, Well, that’s pretty awesome, right? When you normally have to wait weeks. So I just did it. And like I said, the insights came thick and fast, not just about what was going on with me at the time, but also about really things that had been plaguing me about the way I was and also the way I was about other people my whole life. Like, you know, one example is I, I had felt like I had always had a very low resilience to stress. Not necessarily that, you know, like, I’m not the kind of person who always avoids confrontation and stuff like that. But it’s more like, once I got stressed, it would take me a long time to calm down, it would be very, very difficult. And so I always felt very inferior to the kind of person who could, you know, get involved in some kind of conflict or confrontation or challenging situation. And then, you know, not long after a few minutes later, they’re laughing and joking and all relaxed. And I’m like, oh my god, it’s gonna take me days to, you know, overcome something like that. And so understanding her in that case about the comp gene and the MOBO gene, both of which I had slow and how that meant that you know, I struggled to break down stress chemicals, and in fact, all the lifestyle things that I was doing at the time exacerbated that tendency, you know, I hadn’t realized they were slowing down that gene even more. And so that helped me to understand, first of all, you know, that I can improve my situation. But second of all, I’m never going to be like a fast comps person, I’m never going to be that kind of person who, you know, can be in a warzone. And then minutes later, is relaxed and laughing and joking, because that’s just not me. But I do have the ability to stay focused for a long period in a peaceful environment, with someone with a fast calm Jean would never be able to do so seeing the kind of benefits and drawbacks was very helpful. And the other big thing was, you know, I, my raw genetic data come from 2013 2013. I was feeling great. My wife and I both did, you know, 23andme just to see the ancestry thing, and I didn’t have any of these problems back then. So I was just blown away, that I could take my data from them when I didn’t have any of the problems uploaded to the system. And it tells me about all these problems I now have but that I didn’t have back then. I was like, wow, if only I’d have known, you know like I could have prevented all of this stuff happening in the first place probably, or at least to a large degree. And that made me feel like, this is my mission to help other people to have that same realization, right to help to find and address the issues they already have, but especially to help prevent the perhaps more serious ones that they could have if they are not aware that they have that risk. Dr. Joel Rosen:Yeah, that’s, that’s very interesting, I find that a lot. I wish I always said if I had the investment dollars, after you see a 23andme commercial to find out about your ancestry and your heritage, you know, to have a commercial that comes on immediately afterward, and say, and once you find that out, you don’t want to know about your potentials for autoimmune diseases, mood disorders, immunological issues, you know, cardiovascular issues, behavioral issues, then you may want to use the raw data that no one ever tells you about that you can upload into software and learn about that. So a lot of people that do the ancestry don’t realize they have, they’re sitting on this goldmine of information, that they didn’t have a clue that was there. And that I was going to ask you about that because you said you could upload it when you first found it. Within a couple of hours or even shorter my thought process is Oh, you must have already had your raw data. So for people who are listening to this, you just can’t upload a file if you don’t have the raw data. So you have to have the actual raw data first. But with that being said, how, how did that I mean, ultimately, your main concern? When was your was your GI health? Rig