Desire As Medicine Podcast

Brenda and Catherine
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Brenda & Catherine interview people and talk to each other about desire.  They always come back to us being 100% responsible for our desires. Contact us by email:desireasmedicine@gmail.comcatherine@catherinenavarro.comgoddessbrenda24@gmail.comInstagram: @desireasmedicine@CoachCatherineN @Brenda_Fredericks 

  1. 130 ~ Desire-Led Living 101: How to Build a Life That Fits You

    4D AGO

    130 ~ Desire-Led Living 101: How to Build a Life That Fits You

    What if security isn’t a number in your bank account but the self-trust to meet whatever comes? We open up about living a desire-led life, the paradox of wanting more while craving safety, and why “clean desire” matter and equal responsible choices, braver conversations, and structures that support the soul’s pull without blowing up your life.  We revisit the bedrock of yes/no clarity and how it reshaped the recent series on boundaries, self-love, sisterhood, and embodiment. From dismantling the myth that more is selfish to reframing security as the practice of backing yourself, we map the difference between reactive moves and intentional ones. Reactive energy can feel thrilling like rage, fear, and adrenaline. But it often leaves debris. Intentional moves create slow power, they compound; small aligned steps toward big desires like retirement wealth or strength through menopause. Responsibility becomes the hinge: you don’t wait to be skilled to claim it; you claim it and then skill, freedom, and real authority grow. You’ll hear tangible practices—self-holding instead of self-punishment, using “research” to integrate slip-ups, and building calendars, budgets, and rituals that serve the deeper yes. We also share how opposite backgrounds and temperaments became our advantage, making room for both structure and savoring. The aim isn’t perfection; it’s coherence. Not just getting the thing, but becoming the person who can hold it with grace. This is the foundation for sustainability and capacity creation.  As we reflect on how a desire-led life is built through self-trust, responsibility, and the courage to want more even when culture says “enough.” Although we have opposite styles we meet in one practice: clean desire that favors calm power over reactivity and value who we become more than what we collect. • origins of the podcast and our polarity as co‑hosts • yes/no clarity as the foundation of desire • redefining security through self‑trust not surplus • clean desire and responsible action • intentional choices versus reactive choices • long‑game practices for money and health • self‑holding as research instead of shame • becoming over outcome and staying oriented to desire You can find our handles below. Reach out to us, we'd love to hear from you. Support the show Please rate, share, review, and follow for more. Thanks in advance. These actions help more people find the show and it's such a generous way to support our work. Click the links below to inquire about 1:1 support. Book with Brenda Book with Catherine Email Us: desireasmedicine@gmail.com goddessbrenda24@gmail.com catherine@catherinenavarro.com Connect on Instagram: @desireasmedicinepodcast @Brenda_Fredericks @CoachCatherineN

    33 min
  2. 129 ~ Guided Nine Year Cycle Meditation: Closing 2016-2025 (Tool Box Edition)

    FEB 11

    129 ~ Guided Nine Year Cycle Meditation: Closing 2016-2025 (Tool Box Edition)

    Ready or not, you’ve made it through the last 9 year cycle. We invite you to breathe into that truth, drop into your body, and walk a guided path through the arc from 2016 to 2025—closing loops, blessings, lessons, and letting desire shape a brighter 2026 with our guest Alee Reina Hoffman. We move year by year turning memory into medicine. 2016 receives a hug for the brave beginner. 2017 becomes a scene watched with wisdom and compassion. 2018 asks which thoughts still serve. 2019’s gentle nudge at your back reorients you. In 2020, unseen support is revealed and thanked. 2021’s shadows lift as withheld truths take flight. 2022 celebrates a tiny yet pivotal moment returned to the heart. 2023 completes a dance with a partner, honoring what you learned and releasing the steps that no longer fit. 2024 opens the spine to possibility and grants permission to be bigger. 2025 sheds old skins that turn to stardust, lighting a path ahead. Throughout this is an ongoing conversation with your deepest self. By the end, the years spiral into a glowing path toward 2026, and you stand present, clear, and resourced: what needed clearing is cleared, what needed receiving is with you now. If you’ve felt stuck in loops, this meditation reframes your timeline as a source of power, support, and direction. Press play, pause where you need space, and let your body lead you forward. Send this to someone you love who’s closing a chapter.  Listen to the episode before this to learn more about Allee Hoffman, and the 9 year cycle. Here are Alee's links:  https://linktr.ee/aleereina?utm_source=linktree_profile_share<sid=ea722ab6-ada3-48b9-929a-2d4318c6b5b4 Support the show Please rate, share, review, and follow for more. Thanks in advance. These actions help more people find the show and it's such a generous way to support our work. Click the links below to inquire about 1:1 support. Book with Brenda Book with Catherine Email Us: desireasmedicine@gmail.com goddessbrenda24@gmail.com catherine@catherinenavarro.com Connect on Instagram: @desireasmedicinepodcast @Brenda_Fredericks @CoachCatherineN

    31 min
  3. 128 ~ Closing the Nine Year Cycle with Alee Reina Hoffman

    FEB 4

    128 ~ Closing the Nine Year Cycle with Alee Reina Hoffman

    Ever feel like you were brave, did the “right” things, and still hit bottom? We dive into the anatomy of a nine year cycle—2016 to 2025—and why so many of us are feeling the urge to complete, cleanly. With author and Akashic Records guide Alee Reina Hoffman, we unpack how to receive a cycle instead of chasing the next milestone: honoring what really happened, metabolizing grief and disappointment, and allowing endings to end so you can start without residue. Alee shares an unflinching personal story—career peaks, sudden illness from mold exposure, the death of her grandmother, and the shocking loss of her brother—and what decades of inner work are actually for when life doesn't go as planned. Control seeks outcomes; devotion builds capacity. That reframe changes how we meet desire, success, and connection when the world feels unprecedented. We also get practical: reflective writing that helps you “have” your life, touching artifacts and revisiting places to unlock memory, creating art so lessons can leave the body, and even short trips that reset perspective and show you what’s ready to be rearranged. If you’re wondering where you are in a cycle, start with your body: Are you yearning, resting, or ready? Do trusted mirrors reflect a beginning, a middle, or an end? We talk about clarity before movement, why winter is for downloading the blueprint, and how forced change tends to dissolve while embodied change travels with you. One powerful sign of completion is neutrality—the moment your system no longer spikes, and the story becomes wisdom instead of a wound. From there, desire becomes clean again: the next right home, a partner who fits, a season centered on love. Listen for grounded tools, honest stories, and a compassionate map for closing loops so you don’t repeat them.  We explore how to consciously close the 2016–2025 nine‑year cycle by receiving endings, reclaiming wisdom, and letting new desire take the lead. Alee Reina Hoffman shares hard-won insights on loss, timing, and how neutrality signals completion. Get Alee’s book, Dark Times Catering, and follow her on Instagram. Here are Alee's links:  https://linktr.ee/aleereina?utm_source=linktree_profile_share<sid=ea722ab6-ada3-48b9-929a-2d4318c6b5b4 Support the show Please rate, share, review, and follow for more. Thanks in advance. These actions help more people find the show and it's such a generous way to support our work. Click the links below to inquire about 1:1 support. Book with Brenda Book with Catherine Email Us: desireasmedicine@gmail.com goddessbrenda24@gmail.com catherine@catherinenavarro.com Connect on Instagram: @desireasmedicinepodcast @Brenda_Fredericks @CoachCatherineN

    1h 1m
  4. 127 ~ Security Starts Inside: Why Money Is Not Real Safety

    JAN 28

    127 ~ Security Starts Inside: Why Money Is Not Real Safety

    What if the things we cling to for safety: money, titles, degrees, even a stacked calendar, are just polished props? We go straight at the myth of external security and make a case for the kind of wealth you can’t lose: alignment, capacity, and self-trust. Along the way, we revisit an idea from a recent guest "money is the happy byproduct of alignment" and get honest about how that actually looks in real life when you’re budgeting, meal planning, or trying not to derail your goals at the checkout line. We define alignment as the moment your insides match your outsides: thoughts, emotions, body signals, values, and actions moving together. You feel it as congruence and momentum, doors open, timing clicks, and you don’t have to white-knuckle your way forward. But alignment is built, not wished into being. We talk through choice architecture, like funding retirement over impulse buys or stocking your fridge to make healthier decisions the easy decisions. We share grounded practices for self-regulation, including slowing down when fear spikes, naming what’s unknown, and making clear yes/no decisions that back your future self. We also explore the difference between discomfort and danger. So much of what we call “not safe” is the nervous system’s response to uncertainty. By increasing capacity (increasing your ability to be with what is) you create real security that doesn’t vanish when markets swing or plans change. From there, relationships become richer, money flows with less effort, and your desire has room to grow. If you’re ready to audit the places where you outsource safety and build an inner base that travels with you, this conversation will meet you where you are and invite you a step deeper.  Episode Highlights:  • Money is a byproduct of alignment, not the source of safety • False security in jobs, degrees, titles and assets • Alignment as insides matching outsides • Capacity and self-regulation as the new wealth • Community support versus hyper-independence • Choice architecture and backing yourself • Practical routines for health and stability • Planning for setbacks and re-entry • Redefining safety and working with the unknown • Slowing down to assess needs and act clearly Support the show Please rate, share, review, and follow for more. Thanks in advance. These actions help more people find the show and it's such a generous way to support our work. Click the links below to inquire about 1:1 support. Book with Brenda Book with Catherine Email Us: desireasmedicine@gmail.com goddessbrenda24@gmail.com catherine@catherinenavarro.com Connect on Instagram: @desireasmedicinepodcast @Brenda_Fredericks @CoachCatherineN

    35 min
  5. 126 ~ From Desire To Dollars: Karen Baines On Time, Boundaries, and Conscious Wealth

    JAN 21

    126 ~ From Desire To Dollars: Karen Baines On Time, Boundaries, and Conscious Wealth

    Ever wonder why money won’t land no matter how hard you hustle? We sat down with conscious wealth mentor Karen Baines to flip the script: alignment isn’t about efforting; it’s about how your daily choices broadcast your value to the universe. Karen maps out her Wheel of Alignment—money, time, and you—and makes a surprising case that money is usually the least misaligned area. The friction starts upstream with how you spend time and how you hold boundaries, and the fix is refreshingly practical. We dig into the difference between soul desires that linger and ego wants that chase image, then get tactical about turning resonance into results. Karen explains why the universe reads the frequency of your doing, not your thoughts, and how feelings act as a GPS for aligned action. You’ll learn to spot the dysfunctional quartet—obligation, sacrifice, resentment, guilt—and consciously shift toward freedom, support, and creative power. She breaks down the stretch zone, breadcrumb tracking, and the three-to-five-month window for grounding a new normal so your life and business start reflecting your deepest priorities. If you’re a heart-led entrepreneur or a curious creator, you’ll leave with a simple plan: protect your time, honor your body, set clean boundaries, and make one freedom-forward choice this week. Money follows value, and value is something you demonstrate, not affirm.  Grab Karen’s free Wheel of Alignment scorecard, identify your biggest leverage point, and start rewiring your days for abundance.  Link: https://gift.soulwhispers.uk/desire-as-medicine This episode covers: • alignment is doing you, fully and lovingly • money is a happy byproduct of alignment • soul desires contrasted with ego noise • the Wheel of Alignment across money, time, and you • time as the lever most people mismanage • feelings as GPS and the stretch zone • detoxing from obligation to invite freedom and support • tracking breadcrumbs and shifting in three to five months • broadcasting value through boundaries and rest • free Wheel of Alignment scorecard for practical next steps Support the show Please rate, share, review, and follow for more. Thanks in advance. These actions help more people find the show and it's such a generous way to support our work. Click the links below to inquire about 1:1 support. Book with Brenda Book with Catherine Email Us: desireasmedicine@gmail.com goddessbrenda24@gmail.com catherine@catherinenavarro.com Connect on Instagram: @desireasmedicinepodcast @Brenda_Fredericks @CoachCatherineN

    1h 8m
  6. 125 ~ Being Okay With Right Now and Why It Changes Everything

    JAN 14

    125 ~ Being Okay With Right Now and Why It Changes Everything

    Want a new year with resolutions that doesn’t fall apart by February? Go straight to sustainable change by making peace with right now so your goals have solid ground. Instead of forcing quick wins that fade, we explore how acceptance turns desire into a steady practice. True growth feels like a spiral, where you revisit old patterns with new wisdom, not the same you. Together we unpack the difference between change and transformation, sharing candid stories from our health and money journeys. Catherine talks about the cost of an easeful retirement and how intentional systems beat impulse every time. Brenda brings the body into focus, walking through strength training at home, catching the urge to skip, and choosing the smallest next step that still builds self-trust. We get practical about calendars, trainers, grocery lists, and automatic transfers. These are so helpful when motivation dips. You’ll hear how to spot the inner critic’s “radio” and change the station without drama, how to honor the grief that comes with new commitments, and how to ask cleaner questions: Where am I right now? What do I want? What is one action I can take today? If your resolutions are big but your energy wobbles, this conversation will help you create a kinder, more effective path forward. Take one small vote at a time for the life you want. Tell us: what desire are you backing this week? Desire becomes sustainable when we “back ourselves” with simple systems.  Highlights: • acceptance as the foundation for change • the spiral of growth rather than backsliding • moving from self-criticism to self-trust • systems that make follow-through easier • naming the true cost of your desires • grief and closure inside new commitments • catching and changing the inner critic channel • choosing one next step you can do today You can find our Handles in the show notes. Support the show Please rate, share, review, and follow for more. Thanks in advance. These actions help more people find the show and it's such a generous way to support our work. Click the links below to inquire about 1:1 support. Book with Brenda Book with Catherine Email Us: desireasmedicine@gmail.com goddessbrenda24@gmail.com catherine@catherinenavarro.com Connect on Instagram: @desireasmedicinepodcast @Brenda_Fredericks @CoachCatherineN

    40 min
  7. 124 ~ Desire Over Obligation: A Guided Yes and No Meditation (Toolbox Edition)

    JAN 7

    124 ~ Desire Over Obligation: A Guided Yes and No Meditation (Toolbox Edition)

    The moments that change our lives rarely shout; they whisper through breath, pulse, tightness, and ease. We designed this guided mini toolbox to help you hear those whispers and turn them into choices you trust. Across a calm, grounded practice, we slow down your nervous system, contrast the felt sense of yes versus no, and translate sensation into a clean, honest response you can act on today. This episode is a guided meditation designed to help you feel the difference between a true yes and no. You get to practice slowing down and putting your attention on your body while working with a real life choice so sensation becomes clear guidance. You leave with embodied clarity, stronger self trust, and one simple next step rooted in desire instead of pressure. Highlights: • why knowing yes and no builds trust with self and others • breath, relaxation, and access to body cues • contrast practice of imagining yes vs no • mapping sensations like expansion, tightness, and flutter • aligning choices with capacity and becoming • choosing a clean, simple action without overexplaining • integrating sensations and returning to the room • permission to change your mind while staying honest You can find our handles in the show notes. We'd love to hear from you. Support the show Please rate, share, review, and follow for more. Thanks in advance. These actions help more people find the show and it's such a generous way to support our work. Click the links below to inquire about 1:1 support. Book with Brenda Book with Catherine Email Us: desireasmedicine@gmail.com goddessbrenda24@gmail.com catherine@catherinenavarro.com Connect on Instagram: @desireasmedicinepodcast @Brenda_Fredericks @CoachCatherineN

    14 min
  8. 123 ~ Tools for Speaking Your Clear Yes and No (Toolbox Edition)

    12/31/2025

    123 ~ Tools for Speaking Your Clear Yes and No (Toolbox Edition)

    Ever feel that automatic yes come out of your mouth, before you've really had the chance to think about it? We’ve been there, and we built a simple, reliable toolkit to help you answer with clarity instead of obligation or auto-response. We walk through five practical tools you can use today. The pause that interrupts people-pleasing, a body check that reads expansion or contraction, a desire filter that reveals whether you’re avoiding or creating, clean scripts for yes and no, and a future self check to test how you'll feel tomorrow about the choice. We share personal stories about ghosted messages, sensitive friends, and the subtle ways we dilute our boundaries by over-explaining. You’ll hear language you can borrow word for word ~ “I’m not available for that,” “That works for me,” and “Let me check in with myself and get back to you” ~ plus tips for closing the loop so relationships feel clear. This conversation blends somatic awareness, emotional intelligence, and relational hygiene. If you’re tired of resentment, calendar overload, and the constant stress of managing other people’s feelings, these tools will help you move from autopilot to intention. Learn how to honor your yes, protect your no, and build self-trust one clean answer at a time. Listen, practice your next request, and notice how much energy you reclaim when you choose from desire, not pressure. Highlights: • the pause as an antidote to autopilot • body check for signals of expansion or contraction • desire filter to spot avoiding versus create motives • clean yes and clean no scripts that hold boundaries • closing the loop to honor connection • future self check to forecast approval or resentment • courage, self-trust, or excuses You can find our handles in the show notes. We'd love to hear from you. Support the show Please rate, share, review, and follow for more. Thanks in advance. These actions help more people find the show and it's such a generous way to support our work. Click the links below to inquire about 1:1 support. Book with Brenda Book with Catherine Email Us: desireasmedicine@gmail.com goddessbrenda24@gmail.com catherine@catherinenavarro.com Connect on Instagram: @desireasmedicinepodcast @Brenda_Fredericks @CoachCatherineN

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Brenda & Catherine interview people and talk to each other about desire.  They always come back to us being 100% responsible for our desires. Contact us by email:desireasmedicine@gmail.comcatherine@catherinenavarro.comgoddessbrenda24@gmail.comInstagram: @desireasmedicine@CoachCatherineN @Brenda_Fredericks 

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  • Creator
    Brenda and Catherine
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    130
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Desire As Medicine Podcast
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    Desire As Medicine Podcast