Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

From Klaus Haus Productions, featuring Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth

A "3rd Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.

  1. 5d ago

    S4E22 - What does it mean to be a political moderate?

    About this Episode In this episode Lamar and Tom have a “table talk” on what it means to be a political moderate, centrist, or independent while reflecting on how they choose candidates. They compare political labels noting that people can hold strong views on individual issues while remaining moderate overall. They also talk about the effects of political polarization. They draw on their experiences as election workers and voters, they encourage research, civil discourse, and participation in local and national elections. Learn More Allsides: “Moderate” Cambridge University Press: “Moderates,” American Psychological Association: “Political moderates may be perceived as disloyal by both sides.” Come on, really? Nobody was kind to you in the past year?That just can’t be true. We want to hear about your acts of kindness - big or small - from the past year. Next month we’ll be celebrating the Acts of Kindness of our podcast guests as well as those of our followers. It’s not too late…please take just a couple of minutes to share an act of kindness with us. It can be one you performed, one your received, or both. Click on this link to our Google Forms Acts of Kindness Survey. Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others. How We Check Ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/  FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/  Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/ RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/  Reuters FactCheck - https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/  Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive  Meet Lamar and Tom Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry.  Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.  Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?  Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.  Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2026. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com.  No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland, Kansas, and Illinois, USA and Illinois; Original Publishing Date, October 27, 2026.

    S4E22 - What does it mean to be a political moderate?
  2. Oct 13

    S4E21 - A conversation with David Bentler, author of Brotherhood in War & Peace

    Where were you when the U.S. was at war, whether it was Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and, now, Iran? More importantly, how did you feel about where you were?  Lamar and Tom welcome David Bentler to the table for a conversation on his new book, Brotherhood in War & Peace: A Historical Fiction of War, College, and Lifelong Friendship.  David Bentler and Lamar Roth were classmates at Mt. Pleasant High School in Iowa. They competed with one another in basketball and track. Upon graduation David pursued a career in law enforcement and Lamar became a psychologist. Fifty years later they reunite for this conversation about David’s new book.  In this table talk Lamar and Tom talk with David about what led him to write this book and how the process has changed him. There are laughs as two friends re-unite and serious reflections as David, Lamar, and Tom reflect on how the Vietnam War, ever present in their teenage years, shaped them as people.  This is a conversation that will make you smile, make you laugh, and make you think about war and the role it plays in American culture. Learn More Brotherhood in War & Peace: A Historical Fiction of War, College, and Lifelong Friendship - https://a.co/d/054AYTHu Really? You didn’t do any kind thing for anyone in the past year? Nobody was kind to you? That just can’t be true. We want to hear about your acts of kindness - big or small - from the past year. Next month we’ll be celebrating the Acts of Kindness of our podcast guests as well as those of our followers. It’s not too late…please take just a couple of minutes to share an act of kindness with us. It can be one you performed, one your received, or both. Click on this link to our Google Forms Acts of Kindness Survey or copy and paste this address in your browser: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5  How you get there doesn’t matter. What matters is that you share your story to inspire others. Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others. How We Check Ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes FactCheck.org Politifact RealClearPolitics Reuters FactCheck Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check All Sides Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart Meet Lamar and Tom Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry.  Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?  Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.  Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2026. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com.  No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland, Kansas, and Illinois, USA and Illinois; Original Publishing Date, October 13, 2026.

    S4E21 - A conversation with David Bentler, author of Brotherhood in War & Peace
  3. Sep 29

    S4E20 - Violence in the WNBA. What's going on?

    A new version of an old Rodney Dangerfield joke: “I went to a women’s boxing match and a WNBA game broke out.” In the 30th season of the WNBA this seems to have been more true than not. Or was it? It’s the WNBA playoffs! This week Lamar and Tom explore the evolution of women's basketball, the increasing physicality and violence in the Women’s National Basketball League, and the social media narratives that influence public perception. They also talk about the history of women’s basketball, highlighting the contribution of fellow Iowan, Molly Bolin, the first woman drafted into a professional women’s basketball league.  Learn more How Molly (Bolin) Kazmer re-shaped perceptions of the woman athlete A magical moment for Iowa Cornet basketball and ‘Machine Gun Molly’ NFHS Record Book Results - Women’s Six on Six BB Scoring WNBA foul calls rise slightly as the league cracks down on physical play Amid rising threats, a WNBA team calls in experts on violent extremism How Black WNBA players became collateral damage in the Caitlin Clark culture war Annual podcast highlighting Acts of Kindness Hey! Yes, YOU! Tell us about an act of kindness you have received this year OR one that you have done for another person OR both! We want to highlight these in our November 24, 2026 podcast.  Click on this link to our Google Forms Acts of Kindness Survey or copy and paste this address in your browser: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5  Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others. How we check ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/  FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/  Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/ RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/  Reuters FactCheck - https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/  Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive  Meet Lamar and Tom Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry.  Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.  Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?  Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.  Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2026. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com.  No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, September 29, 2026.

    S4E20 - Violence in the WNBA. What's going on?
  4. Sep 15

    S4E19 - The Role of Humor in Conflict and Controversy - A Table Talk

    Uh oh. The guys are back from their August break and they are ready to talk! Today Lamar and Tom respond to a listener’s question about the use of humor in conflict and controversy.  The listener asked: “Doesn’t the use of in a challenging conversation where conflict and controversy is possible merely mask your real feelings? Doesn’t it just help you avoid saying what you are really thinking or feeling?”  Great question! And today Lamar and Tom try to respond to it - with a bit of humor included, of course!  Take a few minutes to listen or watch and then, tell us what you think. How does humor help or hurt when discussing issues that can be controversial?  We all need a lift now. Hearing about acts of kindness can lift us all. Wow, Thanksgiving is only about 2 months from now! We’ve heard from a few folks and we’d like to hear from more. Have you done a kind act in the past year? Have you received a kind act from someone else? Come on…let us in on it. This is a time when we all need the lift that we can get from hearing about acts of kindness for everyday folks. Please take just a couple of minutes to share an act of kindness with us. It can be one you performed, one you received, or both. Click on this link to our Lamar & Tom’s Acts of Kindness Survey or copy and paste this address in your browser: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5  Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others. How We Check Ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/  FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/  Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/ RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/  Reuters FactCheck - https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/  Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive  Meet Lamar and Tom Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry.  Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.  Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?  Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, LLC and Cyberlink AI Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.  Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, LLC. All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2026. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com.  No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Iowa; Original Publishing Date, September 15, 2026.

    S4E19 - The Role of Humor in Conflict and Controversy - A Table Talk
  5. Sep 1

    S4E18 - A Conversation with Walt Michael of Common Ground on the Hill

    Do you know how to combine music, traditional arts, and conversation to create a space where diverse groups of people come together to learn and share with one another? We don’t. But Walt does. Walt Michael is the Artist in Residence at McDaniel College in Westminster, Maryland and the founder and Executive Director of Common Ground on the Hill, an international arts organization which seeks to promote interracial harmony through the traditional arts. Walt is a composer and musician who is known as a virtuoso of the hammer dulcimer. He has produced fourteen albums and performed throughout the world, including on live coverage of the 1980 Winter Olympics Closing Ceremonies in Lake Placid, NY and at the White House in Washington, DC. In this podcast we talk with Walt about his love of music, his passion for bringing people together, and his work through Common Ground on the Hill and, even more recently, Common Ground on the Border. A special treat for us is that Walt gave us permission to use “Snowblind,” which he performed at the closing ceremonies of the 1980 Winter Olympics, as the closing background music for this podcast. Learn More: ⁠Walt MichaelCommon Ground on the Hill Common Ground on the Border - Songcatcher (2000 Film)From War to Wisdom (2017 Documentary)Bad Bunny’s Apple Music Super Bowl Halftime Show Time is Counting Down to Thanksgiving and our Annual Acts of Kindness Podcast Thanksgiving is less than 3 months from now. We are looking for acts of kindness from you…our listeners, viewers, and followers…to highlight in our Thanksgiving podcast. Please take just a couple of minutes to share an act of kindness with us. It can be one you performed, one your received, or both. Click on this link to our Google Forms Acts of Kindness Survey or copy and paste this address in your browser: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 Or, you can just click on the button below. How you get there doesn’t matter. What matters is that you share your story to inspire others. Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others. How We Check Ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes FactCheck.org Politifact RealClearPolitics Reuters FactCheck Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check All Sides Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart Meet Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Prefer to Watch Us Do the Podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com, tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink. Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2026. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, September 1, 2026.

    S4E18 - A Conversation with Walt Michael of Common Ground on the Hill
  6. Aug 18

    S4E17 Encore of But What Can I Do? (S4E5)

    "But what can I do?” This is a question we are getting with greater frequency from our followers, listeners, and viewers. We’re going to try to answer that question…with a little help.  Learn More In this episode of Getting to 3rd Space, we are going to try to answer a question we are getting more frequently from friends, followers, listeners, and viewers: “But what can I do about the situation in our country?” Frankly, we were a bit stuck. So we went to Perplexity and asked it this question: People ask me, about the current social and political situation in the United States, "What can we do?" What can I tell them? Here’s a summary of what we learned (and we’ve put a few links below if you want to learn more):  First, don’t give your power away to despair. Second, shift your focus to where you have real leverage: local life. Third, invest in relationships. And finally, use the tools we have. Sources: The Hill: Several Political Storms Loom on the Horizon in 2026 Brookings: The bucket list for involved citizens: 76 things you can do to boost civic engagement Reddit-Serious Conversation: What should we be doing to help people/communities/ourselves in the current state of the US? A Crucible of Thought: Political Predictions for the USA in 2026 Greater Good Magazine: What Can We Do Now? Vox: 26 things we think will happen in 2026 Playing with Fire: What to do NOW: 10 actionable ways to make a difference during the Trump years KSAT.com: Americans are exceptionally anxious about their political system, new Gallup polling shows Brookings: Economic Issues to watch in 2026 A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness Kindness seems out of vogue right now. But we don’t believe that to be true. We believe there are a lot of people in our world who are choosing kindness even in the face of cruelty. Do you have an act of kindness that you’d be willing to share? You can participate through a Google Forms Survey at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 There you will find two kindness questions we’d like you to consider and then respond to: What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life? What do we do with the acts we learn about in this survey? We save them and feature them in our Thanksgiving show each year…anonymously unless you prefer we use your name. Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others. How We Check Ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes FactCheck.org Politifact RealClearPolitics Reuters FactCheck Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check All Sides Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.  Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.  Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2026. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com.  No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Iowa; Original Publishing Date, February 17, 2026.

    S4E17 Encore of But What Can I Do? (S4E5)
  7. Aug 4

    S4E16 Encore of A Table Talk on Democracy with Historian Joel Kauffman

    What is the state of our democracy in the U.S. today? What does it mean to be a democracy? Lamar and Tom check in with historian Joel Kauffman on these and other questions.  Joel Kauffman is a professor, coach, reader, and world citizen. His interest in the world in which we live has led him to learn more about it through the study of history and in conversations with people from all walks of life. Joel taught courses at Hesston College, including a couple with Lamar, engaged students and pushed them to think more carefully and critically about the world they were inheriting from their elders. In this Table Talk, Joel similarly pushes Lamar and Tom to thoughtfully consider the state of American democracy and what it will take to preserve it.   Learn More Walden by Henry David Thoreau - https://www.gutenberg.org/files/205/205-h/205-h.htm The Constitution of the United States of America - from the Bill of Rights Institute https://bri-wp-images.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/The-Constitution.pdf also from the National Constitution Center https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution What is a Democracy? Department of Government, Georgetown University - https://government.georgetown.edu/news/democracy-governance/what-is-democracy/  A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness Kindness seems out of vogue right now. But we don’t believe that to be true. We believe there are a lot of people in our world who are choosing kindness even in the face of cruelty. Do you have an act of kindness that you’d be willing to share? You can participate through a Google Forms Survey at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 There you will find two kindness questions we’d like you to consider and then respond to: What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life? What do we do with the acts we learn about in this survey? We save them and feature them in our Thanksgiving show each year…anonymously unless you prefer we use your name. Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others. How We Check Ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/  FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/  Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/ RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/  Reuters FactCheck - https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/  Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/ All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-news Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive  Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions.  Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?  Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.  Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2026. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com.  No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA; Original Publishing Date, April 14, 2026

    S4E16 Encore of A Table Talk on Democracy with Historian Joel Kauffman
  8. Jul 21

    S4E15 - A Conversation on Practical Kindness with Erica Marks

    What’s the difference between being “kind” and “nice?” Are they mutually exclusive? Can you be both at the same time? Join us for a conversation with #BeHumankind practitioner Erica Marks to learn more.  Erica Marks is a #BeHumankind practitioner. She has integrated principles of #BeHumankind into her work as a charity (nonprofit) leader in the United Kingdom. In this conversation we learn about her work as an advocate for children with severe disabilities and their parents, people who have experienced sexual abuse and assault, and individuals wishing to explore opportunities beyond the ultra-Orthodox communities in which they live to fulfill personal goals. In this podcast Lamar and Tom talk with Erica about how she has integrated kindness and the principles of #BeHumankind into her work.  Learn More about Erica and her Work Mavar Kisharon Langdon Connect with Erica Marks on LinkedIn #Behumankind A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of Kindness Do you have an act of kindness that you’d be willing to share? You can participate through a Google Forms Survey at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5 There you will find two kindness questions we’d like you to consider and then respond to: What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you? What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life? What do we do with the acts we learn about in this survey? We save them and feature them in our Thanksgiving show each year…anonymously unless you prefer we use your name. Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others. How We Check Ourselves Fact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself: Snopes FactCheck.org Politifact RealClearPolitics Reuters FactCheck Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage: Media Bias/Fact Check All Sides Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart Meet Lamar and Tom Lamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Together Lamar and Tom hope to carve out a 3rd Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry.  Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel. Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics?  Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com. Credits: Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus Images by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AI Final review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc.  Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/ Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2026. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com.  No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed. Recorded using Riverside.fm from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and the United Kingdom; Original Publishing Date, July 21, 2026.

    S4E15 - A Conversation on Practical Kindness with Erica Marks

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A "3rd Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.