The Price You Pay

Natalie Cook

Host Natalie Cook, Olympic gold medalist and five-time Olympian, shares the inspiring and untold stories of athletes who face financial obstacles in their pursuit of becoming Olympian's and Paralympian’s. Discover the sacrifices, challenges, and unwavering determination behind their pursuit of greatness. Be inspired by their resilience and determination to turn their dreams into reality.

  1. Aug 4

    Gymnast Clay Mason Stephens Demonstrates the Ultimate Generosity of Spirit

    A gymnast with one pectoral muscle, six knee surgeries, and a career that refuses to follow the usual timeline does not just “push through.” Clay Mason Stephens shows what it really looks like to adapt, rebuild, and choose the hard path with clear eyes. We talk with Clay and his Mum Louise about Poland syndrome, the brutal psychology of comparison during puberty, and the difference supportive parenting can make when a kid is determined to chase an elite sport dream. We also get practical about men’s artistic gymnastics: the six apparatus, how specialisation happens, and why being an all-round athlete turns training into a constant time-management puzzle. Clay opens up about repeated ACL injuries, the rehab grind, and the mindset shift that helped him climb out of a dark COVID period while stranded in the US. His most important metric changes from perfect outcomes to something harder and more sustainable: self-trust built by showing up, and a promise to keep the sport fun enough to be worth the price. Then we zoom out to the often-unspoken side of athlete life: money. Clay explains the financial pressure of training 30+ hours a week, why working a full day can be genuinely dangerous in gymnastics, and how scholarships and side work shape real decisions. We also explore generosity as a performance value, from giving up a Commonwealth Games high bar final spot so a teammate could medal, to trekking in Nepal and fundraising nearly $40,000 for earthquake-resilient classrooms with the Reach for Nepal Foundation. If you care about Australian sport funding, athlete wellbeing, injury recovery, and building a life bigger than results, this conversation stays with you. Subscribe for more stories from Aussie athletes, share this episode with someone who needs a mindset reset, and leave a review so these journeys travel further. Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    Gymnast Clay Mason Stephens Demonstrates the Ultimate Generosity of Spirit
  2. Jul 13

    Tori West On Training, Travel, And Building A Sports Tech Company

    We sit down with Olympian heptathlete Tori West to unpack what it takes to build a “dream heptathlon” while balancing real-life costs, work, and travel. We also follow her leap from regional sport in Townsville to a Swiss training camp, plus why she is building sports tech to give athletes control of their own data. • how heptathlon scoring works and why personal bests tell the real story • the psychology of event order across two days of competition • growing up in Townsville, being shy, and finding confidence through boxing • funding a sporting dream through stacked jobs, side hustles, and brutal schedules • moving to Brisbane for an Olympic-level coaching environment and long-term growth • building a company that helps athletes and coaches use training data better • the future of athlete data ownership, consent, verification, and athlete passports • setting big goals for the Commonwealth Games and staying grounded under pressure • giving back to regional sport and supporting athletes at every level To get involved, please visit our website at www.aussieathletfund.com and choose your impact. Sharing the fund's mission or even an episode of this podcast is how we grow and expand the reach to better support these young athletes. Pressing the follow button means that you won't miss an episode. And giving us a great review is how these athletes' stories travel further afield. Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    Tori West On Training, Travel, And Building A Sports Tech Company
  3. Jun 24

    Jackson Macdonald Explains What Separates A Rider From A Racer

    A 14-year-old Australian rider earns a place at the Honda Racing School in Japan, and suddenly the dream gets real: new countries, older competitors, higher speeds, and a price tag most people never see. We sit down with Jackson Macdonald and his dad Glen to trace the exact steps that moved Jackson from early racing in Australia to international starts, age exemptions, and a fast-forming MotoGP pathway that now runs through Spain, Japan, and iconic tracks like Phillip Island. Jackson shares the clearest performance lesson we have heard in a while: there’s a difference between a rider and a racer. We get into how he studies qualifying footage, lap times, and competitor strengths to build a passing plan, plus how technique actually works when you’re leaned over with knee down and trying to turn the bike efficiently. Glen adds the behind-the-scenes structure: choosing the right coaches, learning from Spain’s road racing “heartland,” and building a home training setup that lets Jackson repeat the same drills without living on a plane. Then we talk about the part that can’t be separated from elite sport, especially motorsport: money and logistics. Glen explains what it means to close a business during travel, why junior racing is often unpaid, and how support can swing from strong donor years to nothing at all. We also unpack how the Aussie Athlete Fund helps families build real-world skills in communication, fundraising, marketing, and presenting young athletes professionally, so talent has a fighting chance to keep moving forward. If you care about athlete development, junior motorsport, homeschooling for elite athletes, or the true cost of chasing MotoGP, this story will stick with you. Subscribe, share with someone who loves racing, and leave a review so these athletes’ stories travel further. Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    Jackson Macdonald Explains What Separates A Rider From A Racer
  4. Jun 3

    How Two Women Built Athlete Funding That Works: AAF Founder Natalie Cook & CAN Fund Creator Jane Roos launch into it!

    We sit down with CAN Fund founder Jane Roos to talk about the real cost of representing your country and why “showing up” is the most practical form of belief you can give an athlete. We connect Jane’s origin story and fundraising philosophy to why we built the Aussie Athlete Fund and how we can stop normalising pay to play sport.  • Jane’s life-changing car accident and the mindset shift that follows  • The early CAN Fund fundraiser and how small actions create ripple effects  • Why athletes have “no plan B” and why they bring a country together  • Donor journeys that work: invitation-based asks and meaningful touchpoints  • The anger behind pay to play and why the system still persists  • Creativity in fundraising: experiences, community events and supporters jerseys  • Art as impact: Jane’s “Who We Are” national canvas concept  • Reframing donations as “gifting time” and building belief  To get involved please visit our website at www.aussieathfund.com and choose your impact. Whether that's as a corporate partner, teaming up with an athlete in our Million Dollar Challenge, buying a supporters jersey or signing up to host a great Aussie Athlete barbecue. Sharing the fund's mission or even an episode of this podcast is how we grow and expand the reach to better support these young athletes. Pressing the follow button means that you won't miss an episode and giving us a great review is how these athletes' stories travel further afield.  Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    How Two Women Built Athlete Funding That Works: AAF Founder Natalie Cook & CAN Fund Creator Jane Roos launch into it!
  5. 11/13/2025

    Ashlee Daunt's Teenage Sailing Hobby Has Now Become An Olympic Family Dream

    What does it really take to chase Olympic sailing as a sibling team when boats, sails, and travel chew through your budget before you hit the start line? We sit down with Australian sailor Ashlee Daunt to unpack the organized chaos behind a mixed 470 campaign with her brother Brayden—how they split roles, handle conflict, and keep the long game in view from LA 2028 to Brisbane 2032. Ashlee shares how a late start at 14 turned into freedom on the water, quick progress in the 29er, and a smart move into the 470 where size, skill, and strategy suit their build. She leads tactics and the main; Brayden drives power on the wire, trims, and keeps the boat flat and fast. Together they navigate regatta pressure, a steep 470 learning curve, and the reality that true crew flow can take up to a decade. That means patience, systems, and communication when fatigue and noise threaten to fracture decisions mid-race. We also zoom out to the money. European regattas taught them more than speed; they revealed the actual cost of competing with the world’s best. Ashlee, an accountant, owns the budget, logistics, and fundraising while Brayden handles boat work—an approach that keeps the bow pointed forward without burning out. With support from the Aussie Athlete Fund, their club, and family, they’re building recurring backing through sponsors and patrons to fund the runway that high performance demands. Their mum, Kerri, offers a moving perspective on raising a “trio,” stepping back, and cheering for two kids who turned a school sport into a national dream. Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    Ashlee Daunt's Teenage Sailing Hobby Has Now Become An Olympic Family Dream
  6. 10/16/2025

    Youngest Squash Player Ever to Play at The Comm Games Alex Haydon

    We explore the real cost of chasing green and gold and follow Alex Hayden’s rise from rural South Australia to the PSA World Tour. She shares how she funds her career, why storytelling builds resilience, and how LA 2028 reframed what’s possible for squash. • why the Aussie Athlete Fund exists and what it fixes • how Alex fell in love with squash at eight in Clare Valley • portable glass courts, iconic venues and fan experience • LA 2028 inclusion and shifting goals beyond Commonwealth Games • choosing the US as a training base and college pipeline insights • breaking down funding: sponsors, raffles, exhibitions, clinics • building a repeatable athlete business with simple systems • supporter updates, honesty after losses and the 24‑hour rule • values, mindset and aligning training with personal identity • practical ways listeners and businesses can back athletes Training, travel, and mindset weave through every chapter. Alex explains why the US became her base—strong competition, top coaching, and the gravity of a thriving college system—and how she manages the long-haul reality of an international schedule. We dive into the magic of portable glass courts set against iconic backdrops, the evolving culture of cheering in squash, and the moment Olympic inclusion transformed her horizon. Most powerful is her approach to resilience: a 24-hour rule for processing results, candid updates to supporters via WhatsApp, and the integrity that comes from aligning values, goals, and daily actions. Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    Youngest Squash Player Ever to Play at The Comm Games Alex Haydon
  7. 09/16/2025

    From Diving Rejection to Canoe Champion: Caitlyn Bowell's Resilience in the Water

    What does it take to keep chasing an Olympic dream when everything seems stacked against you? For Caitlyn Bowell, a 26-year-old sprint canoe champion, it means refusing to take no for an answer—even when that "no" came from her diving coach who arbitrarily decided she was "too old" at just 19. With a background as a champion gymnast and diver, Caitlyn's pivot to canoe kayak began with a literal splash—falling into bull shark-infested waters on her first attempt to balance in the skinny craft. But that inauspicious beginning was just the first of many obstacles she would face. From moving across the country to train in a program that suddenly folded, to purchasing a secondhand "old man boat" too large for her frame, to training completely alone without coaching guidance, Caitlyn's journey embodies the extraordinary resilience required of Australian athletes chasing green and gold glory. The emotional core of this episode lies in the beautiful relationship between Caitlyn and her mother Jane (affectionately nicknamed "the Jane Train" for her fierce advocacy). When the family recently lost all their belongings to water damage, creating further financial strain, their mutual support and unwavering belief in each other shines through. As Jane shares through tears, "I don't know what it is, but I just know that you were destined for greatness and destined to go there." Hope emerges at the episode's conclusion as Caitlyn connects with a Rio Olympian coach establishing a program on the Sunshine Coast—potentially marking a turning point in her journey toward LA 2028. Her story powerfully illustrates why the Aussie Athlete Fund's mission is so crucial: ensuring athletes don't have to sacrifice everything just for the honor of representing Australia. Connect with these inspiring stories by following the podcast and visiting aussieathletefund.com to discover how you can support athletes like Caitlin who give so much while asking for so little in return. Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    From Diving Rejection to Canoe Champion: Caitlyn Bowell's Resilience in the Water
  8. 08/19/2025

    22: From Gymnast to World Champion Diver: Maggie Grey's Olympic Quest

    Dreams take flight from unexpected places. For 14-year-old Maggie Grey, Australia's junior world platform diving champion, it began while watching Simone Biles compete at the 2016 Rio Olympics. "Mom, I'm going to go to the Olympics," she declared at age eight. Six years later, she's well on her way. Maggie's path reveals remarkable strategic thinking uncommon in someone so young. At ten, she pivoted from gymnastics to diving, recognizing the competitive landscape and seeking a clearer route to her Olympic ambitions. Now a five-time Australian champion with international victories across three continents, she's fixed her sights on LA 2028 with unwavering determination. What makes Maggie exceptional isn't just her technical ability but her mental approach. While many athletes develop fear around the 10-meter platform, she thrives on it: "I actually enjoy the heights. I like the adrenaline it gives me." This psychological edge, according to her coach Ady Hinchcliffe (newly appointed head coach of Australian diving), is her "weapon" in competition. The conversation delves into diving's technical complexity, where athletes must master five different dive types with minimal margin for error. "The finest mistake and she's in the trees," explains Ady, likening it to a golf swing where the slightest error sends the ball off course. Yet Maggie maintains remarkable consistency across these varied movements. Financial challenges remain significant for elite athletes despite some funding support. Through the Aussie Athlete Fund, Maggie has learned valuable fundraising skills, starting with selling chocolate-covered strawberries to help fund her competitive journey. This education in "asking for help" represents a crucial life skill beyond the pool. Despite China's dominance in senior diving (sweeping all eight Olympic gold medals at the last Games), Maggie and Coach Ady maintain optimistic perspectives. Their story illuminates what's possible when talent meets opportunity, resilience overcomes obstacles, and an Olympic dream stays firmly in focus through it all. Support athletes like Maggie by visiting www.aussieathletefund.com and joining the mission to create sustainable funding models for Australia's future champions. Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    22: From Gymnast to World Champion Diver: Maggie Grey's Olympic Quest

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Host Natalie Cook, Olympic gold medalist and five-time Olympian, shares the inspiring and untold stories of athletes who face financial obstacles in their pursuit of becoming Olympian's and Paralympian’s. Discover the sacrifices, challenges, and unwavering determination behind their pursuit of greatness. Be inspired by their resilience and determination to turn their dreams into reality.