The Price You Pay

Natalie Cook

Host Natalie Cook, Olympic gold medalist and five-time Olympian, shares the inspiring and untold stories of athletes who face financial obstacles in their pursuit of becoming Olympian's and Paralympian’s. Discover the sacrifices, challenges, and unwavering determination behind their pursuit of greatness. Be inspired by their resilience and determination to turn their dreams into reality.

  1. 13h ago

    Their Dreams Are A Family Business: How Taekwondo Star Mackenzie Macdonald Kicks Her Way to the Top

    A 16-year-old can be ranked number one in Australia and still need her mum on the plane as a required chaperone. That’s the reality for junior elite sport, and it’s why Mackenzie McDonald’s Taekwondo journey is as much about logistics and family sacrifice as it is about medals. We talk with Mackenzie and her mum, Christy, about what it takes to stay at the pointy end of high performance Taekwondo: third Dan gradings, the pressure of world-level competition, and the mindset that turns a painful loss into a plan. Mackenzie opens up about that razor edge between being friendly off the mat and being ruthless on it, plus the hard social trade-offs when school friends don’t understand why training always comes first. Then we get into the unglamorous details that decide whether a talented athlete can keep going. As a rural athlete, Mackenzie clocks more than 700km a week just getting to training, and the family has made big changes including homeschooling for flexibility and reshaping work to cover travel and costs. We also dig into what the Aussie Athlete Fund teaches athletes about fundraising, storytelling, and building a personal brand so support becomes “back my journey,” not “help my parents cope.” If you care about junior sport, athlete funding in Australia, and the real price behind the green and gold dream, hit play. Subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review so these stories travel further. Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    Their Dreams Are A Family Business: How Taekwondo Star Mackenzie Macdonald Kicks Her Way to the Top
  2. Aug 26

    How Isabella Crosbie Found Her Voice Through Artistic Swimming

    A 14-year-old trains like an elite athlete, then goes back to Year 9 homework. That’s the reality for Isabella “Bella” Crosbie, an artistic swimmer (formerly synchronised swimming) on the 2026 Australian Youth Training Squad, and it’s only half the story. We talk with Bella and her mum, Carissa, about what a real training week looks like, from club sessions and high performance hours to the unglamorous nightly stretching and strength work that builds results over time. If you’ve ever wondered how artistic swimming athletes prepare, Bella breaks down the land work, the “land routine” practice, and the mindset that keeps her consistent. Carissa takes us back to the beginning, when Bella was so shy she avoided school performances and needed a teacher beside her just to participate. Sport became a confidence plan before it became a high performance pathway. We explore how team culture, coaching support, and friendships helped Bella move from fear to excitement, including a remarkable twist where she met a “cousin” through the sport and discovered they really were family. It’s a candid look at youth sport psychology, confidence building, and managing competition nerves when the stakes keep rising. Then we get honest about athlete funding and the price families pay to keep Olympic dreams alive. With interstate travel for Australian Institute of Sport camps in Canberra, national championships, and international competition, costs escalate fast. Carissa shares what it takes to fund the dream while working full-time, volunteering, fundraising, and even running a dog-sitting side hustle, plus how programs like the Aussie Athlete Fund and Elevate 32 help athletes learn sponsorship, social media, and storytelling skills. If you care about Australian athletes and the road to Brisbane 2032, hit follow, share this with a friend, and leave a review so these stories travel further. Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    How Isabella Crosbie Found Her Voice Through Artistic Swimming
  3. Aug 4

    Gymnast Clay Mason Stephens Demonstrates the Ultimate Generosity of Spirit

    A gymnast with one pectoral muscle, six knee surgeries, and a career that refuses to follow the usual timeline does not just “push through.” Clay Mason Stephens shows what it really looks like to adapt, rebuild, and choose the hard path with clear eyes. We talk with Clay and his Mum Louise about Poland syndrome, the brutal psychology of comparison during puberty, and the difference supportive parenting can make when a kid is determined to chase an elite sport dream. We also get practical about men’s artistic gymnastics: the six apparatus, how specialisation happens, and why being an all-round athlete turns training into a constant time-management puzzle. Clay opens up about repeated ACL injuries, the rehab grind, and the mindset shift that helped him climb out of a dark COVID period while stranded in the US. His most important metric changes from perfect outcomes to something harder and more sustainable: self-trust built by showing up, and a promise to keep the sport fun enough to be worth the price. Then we zoom out to the often-unspoken side of athlete life: money. Clay explains the financial pressure of training 30+ hours a week, why working a full day can be genuinely dangerous in gymnastics, and how scholarships and side work shape real decisions. We also explore generosity as a performance value, from giving up a Commonwealth Games high bar final spot so a teammate could medal, to trekking in Nepal and fundraising nearly $40,000 for earthquake-resilient classrooms with the Reach for Nepal Foundation. If you care about Australian sport funding, athlete wellbeing, injury recovery, and building a life bigger than results, this conversation stays with you. Subscribe for more stories from Aussie athletes, share this episode with someone who needs a mindset reset, and leave a review so these journeys travel further. Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    Gymnast Clay Mason Stephens Demonstrates the Ultimate Generosity of Spirit
  4. Jul 13

    Tori West On Training, Travel, And Building A Sports Tech Company

    We sit down with Olympian heptathlete Tori West to unpack what it takes to build a “dream heptathlon” while balancing real-life costs, work, and travel. We also follow her leap from regional sport in Townsville to a Swiss training camp, plus why she is building sports tech to give athletes control of their own data. • how heptathlon scoring works and why personal bests tell the real story • the psychology of event order across two days of competition • growing up in Townsville, being shy, and finding confidence through boxing • funding a sporting dream through stacked jobs, side hustles, and brutal schedules • moving to Brisbane for an Olympic-level coaching environment and long-term growth • building a company that helps athletes and coaches use training data better • the future of athlete data ownership, consent, verification, and athlete passports • setting big goals for the Commonwealth Games and staying grounded under pressure • giving back to regional sport and supporting athletes at every level To get involved, please visit our website at www.aussieathletfund.com and choose your impact. Sharing the fund's mission or even an episode of this podcast is how we grow and expand the reach to better support these young athletes. Pressing the follow button means that you won't miss an episode. And giving us a great review is how these athletes' stories travel further afield. Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    Tori West On Training, Travel, And Building A Sports Tech Company
  5. Jun 24

    Jackson Macdonald Explains What Separates A Rider From A Racer

    A 14-year-old Australian rider earns a place at the Honda Racing School in Japan, and suddenly the dream gets real: new countries, older competitors, higher speeds, and a price tag most people never see. We sit down with Jackson Macdonald and his dad Glen to trace the exact steps that moved Jackson from early racing in Australia to international starts, age exemptions, and a fast-forming MotoGP pathway that now runs through Spain, Japan, and iconic tracks like Phillip Island. Jackson shares the clearest performance lesson we have heard in a while: there’s a difference between a rider and a racer. We get into how he studies qualifying footage, lap times, and competitor strengths to build a passing plan, plus how technique actually works when you’re leaned over with knee down and trying to turn the bike efficiently. Glen adds the behind-the-scenes structure: choosing the right coaches, learning from Spain’s road racing “heartland,” and building a home training setup that lets Jackson repeat the same drills without living on a plane. Then we talk about the part that can’t be separated from elite sport, especially motorsport: money and logistics. Glen explains what it means to close a business during travel, why junior racing is often unpaid, and how support can swing from strong donor years to nothing at all. We also unpack how the Aussie Athlete Fund helps families build real-world skills in communication, fundraising, marketing, and presenting young athletes professionally, so talent has a fighting chance to keep moving forward. If you care about athlete development, junior motorsport, homeschooling for elite athletes, or the true cost of chasing MotoGP, this story will stick with you. Subscribe, share with someone who loves racing, and leave a review so these athletes’ stories travel further. Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    Jackson Macdonald Explains What Separates A Rider From A Racer
  6. Jun 3

    How Two Women Built Athlete Funding That Works: AAF Founder Natalie Cook & CAN Fund Creator Jane Roos launch into it!

    We sit down with CAN Fund founder Jane Roos to talk about the real cost of representing your country and why “showing up” is the most practical form of belief you can give an athlete. We connect Jane’s origin story and fundraising philosophy to why we built the Aussie Athlete Fund and how we can stop normalising pay to play sport.  • Jane’s life-changing car accident and the mindset shift that follows  • The early CAN Fund fundraiser and how small actions create ripple effects  • Why athletes have “no plan B” and why they bring a country together  • Donor journeys that work: invitation-based asks and meaningful touchpoints  • The anger behind pay to play and why the system still persists  • Creativity in fundraising: experiences, community events and supporters jerseys  • Art as impact: Jane’s “Who We Are” national canvas concept  • Reframing donations as “gifting time” and building belief  To get involved please visit our website at www.aussieathfund.com and choose your impact. Whether that's as a corporate partner, teaming up with an athlete in our Million Dollar Challenge, buying a supporters jersey or signing up to host a great Aussie Athlete barbecue. Sharing the fund's mission or even an episode of this podcast is how we grow and expand the reach to better support these young athletes. Pressing the follow button means that you won't miss an episode and giving us a great review is how these athletes' stories travel further afield.  Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    How Two Women Built Athlete Funding That Works: AAF Founder Natalie Cook & CAN Fund Creator Jane Roos launch into it!
  7. 11/13/2025

    Ashlee Daunt's Teenage Sailing Hobby Has Now Become An Olympic Family Dream

    What does it really take to chase Olympic sailing as a sibling team when boats, sails, and travel chew through your budget before you hit the start line? We sit down with Australian sailor Ashlee Daunt to unpack the organized chaos behind a mixed 470 campaign with her brother Brayden—how they split roles, handle conflict, and keep the long game in view from LA 2028 to Brisbane 2032. Ashlee shares how a late start at 14 turned into freedom on the water, quick progress in the 29er, and a smart move into the 470 where size, skill, and strategy suit their build. She leads tactics and the main; Brayden drives power on the wire, trims, and keeps the boat flat and fast. Together they navigate regatta pressure, a steep 470 learning curve, and the reality that true crew flow can take up to a decade. That means patience, systems, and communication when fatigue and noise threaten to fracture decisions mid-race. We also zoom out to the money. European regattas taught them more than speed; they revealed the actual cost of competing with the world’s best. Ashlee, an accountant, owns the budget, logistics, and fundraising while Brayden handles boat work—an approach that keeps the bow pointed forward without burning out. With support from the Aussie Athlete Fund, their club, and family, they’re building recurring backing through sponsors and patrons to fund the runway that high performance demands. Their mum, Kerri, offers a moving perspective on raising a “trio,” stepping back, and cheering for two kids who turned a school sport into a national dream. Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    Ashlee Daunt's Teenage Sailing Hobby Has Now Become An Olympic Family Dream
  8. 10/16/2025

    Youngest Squash Player Ever to Play at The Comm Games Alex Haydon

    We explore the real cost of chasing green and gold and follow Alex Hayden’s rise from rural South Australia to the PSA World Tour. She shares how she funds her career, why storytelling builds resilience, and how LA 2028 reframed what’s possible for squash. • why the Aussie Athlete Fund exists and what it fixes • how Alex fell in love with squash at eight in Clare Valley • portable glass courts, iconic venues and fan experience • LA 2028 inclusion and shifting goals beyond Commonwealth Games • choosing the US as a training base and college pipeline insights • breaking down funding: sponsors, raffles, exhibitions, clinics • building a repeatable athlete business with simple systems • supporter updates, honesty after losses and the 24‑hour rule • values, mindset and aligning training with personal identity • practical ways listeners and businesses can back athletes Training, travel, and mindset weave through every chapter. Alex explains why the US became her base—strong competition, top coaching, and the gravity of a thriving college system—and how she manages the long-haul reality of an international schedule. We dive into the magic of portable glass courts set against iconic backdrops, the evolving culture of cheering in squash, and the moment Olympic inclusion transformed her horizon. Most powerful is her approach to resilience: a 24-hour rule for processing results, candid updates to supporters via WhatsApp, and the integrity that comes from aligning values, goals, and daily actions. Become a part of our athletes' success stories:  Whether its a personal donation, a corporate partnership, a round of golf, or simply by spreading the word, your support has the power to uplift our athletes and inspire countless others!   Website:      https://aussieathletefund.com/ Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/aussieathletefund/ Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/aussieathletefund Be sure to check out our "Aussie Athlete Supporters" jersey at https://aussieathletefund.com/jersey Thank you for tuning in to The Price You Pay podcast! To ensure you never miss an episode, hit that "FOLLOW" button and remember to leave us a like, review, rating or share the podcast with someone you know needs to hear the inspiring stories of athletes and their families giving their all for the dream!

    Youngest Squash Player Ever to Play at The Comm Games Alex Haydon

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Host Natalie Cook, Olympic gold medalist and five-time Olympian, shares the inspiring and untold stories of athletes who face financial obstacles in their pursuit of becoming Olympian's and Paralympian’s. Discover the sacrifices, challenges, and unwavering determination behind their pursuit of greatness. Be inspired by their resilience and determination to turn their dreams into reality.