The Reverse Mullet Healthcare Podcast

BP2 Health

Ellen Brown, Justin Politi, and Dave Pavlik bring their 90 collective years of healthcare experience to BP2 Health where they're on a mission to effect real change in the industry. Connect with BP2 Health Here: https://bp2health.com/contact/

  1. 06/30/2025

    Lifestyle Medicine A Foundation for Brain Health with Legendary Drs. Ayesha & Dean Sherzai

    Neurologists Dean and Aisha Sherzai share their groundbreaking research on preventing cognitive decline through lifestyle changes. Proving the power of Lifestyle Medicine. Their work reveals that 80-90% of brain disease is influenced by lifestyle factors, providing hope for people concerned about their brain health. • The Sherzais discovered remarkable protection against dementia in Seventh-day Adventists following plant-based diets • The brain is especially vulnerable to lifestyle factors as it's 2% of body weight but uses 25% of energy • Their NEURO framework covers Nutrition, Exercise, Unwind, Restorative sleep, and Optimizing cognitive activity • Continuing cognitive challenge is critical – "Don't retire, rewire" around your passions • While Alzheimer's cannot be reversed once established, prevention is possible at any age • The brain can grow new connections even at 99 years old with proper lifestyle habits • Implementation requires community involvement at all levels rather than top-down approaches Be ambassadors for lifestyle medicine and brain health—consider yourself a walking billboard for the profound impact of lifestyle changes on cognitive well-being.

    25 min

  2. 06/16/2025

    Designing a Value Ecosystem: Alex Sommers on Driving Real Health Outcomes

    Healthcare costs have doubled in the past decade, reaching a crushing $26,000 annually for families—with individual contributions now matching what the total premium used to be two decades ago. This financial reality is what gets Dr. Alex Sommers out of bed each morning. Live from the American College of Lifestyle Medicine Conference in Orlando, we sit down with Dr. Sommers, a board-certified emergency physician who's now leading a healthcare revolution through direct primary care. His Wisconsin-based practice bypasses traditional insurance models to work directly with employers, creating what he calls a "value-based ecosystem" that integrates primary care, mental health services, and lifestyle medicine under one roof. The results speak volumes: Dr. Sommers' approach is generating savings of $115-120 per member per month—nearly double the national average for direct primary care practices. By focusing on preventive care, measuring meaningful biomarkers, and addressing root causes rather than symptoms, his team is demonstrating that better healthcare doesn't have to mean higher costs. We dive deep into the tension between our reactive "sick care" system and what actually works for preventing disease and optimizing health. Dr. Sommers shares his journey from healthcare executive to innovator, explaining how he's collaborating with the Health Rosetta community to redesign employer health plans from the ground up. As he puts it, "When you align personal stake, professional stake, and the finances for all stakeholders, you get better outcomes." Whether you're an employer drowning in healthcare costs, a provider seeking more meaningful ways to practice, or simply someone concerned about the unsustainable trajectory of American healthcare, this conversation offers hopeful insights into what's possible when we're willing to reimagine the system. Connect with us to continue the conversation and discover how these principles might transform your approach to health and wellness.

    15 min

  3. 06/13/2025

    Health at Its Origins: Food, Lifestyle, and Planetary Well-Being with David and Catherine Katz

    Dr. David Katz takes us on a journey through the evolution of lifestyle medicine and its critical role in addressing our dual crises of chronic disease and environmental degradation. With characteristic wit and wisdom, he explains how our healthcare system has become primarily "disease care," waiting for patients to "fall off the wall" rather than preventing falls in the first place. Drawing on decades of experience in preventive medicine, Dr. Katz reveals the stark reality that diet quality has become the number one predictor of all-cause mortality in the United States. More sobering still is his assertion that 60% of COVID-19's impact in America was attributable to our population's poor metabolic health—a preventable tragedy had we addressed the "prior neglected pandemic" of lifestyle-related diseases. The conversation takes a delightful turn when Catherine Katz, neuroscientist and French foodie, joins to share how theory meets practice in their kitchen. Through her website Cuisinicity, she demonstrates that healthy eating need not be bland or restrictive. Her innovative approach transforms traditional recipes by maintaining the sensory experience while dramatically improving the nutritional profile—like her fiber-rich, protein-packed chocolate mousse that satisfies both the body and the most discerning palates. Together, the Katzes offer a masterclass in "taste bud rehab," explaining how our preferences can adapt to healthier foods in just weeks. They contrast this natural approach with ultra-processed foods engineered to maximize consumption before satiety signals activate. Their message is ultimately one of integration: we need both acute care for emergencies and systems that build "vitality at its origins," recognizing that the shifts in personal behavior that benefit human health also redound to the benefit of our planet. Ready to transform your relationship with food and health? Discover how small changes can yield enormous benefits for you and the environment.

    21 min

  4. 06/12/2025

    Transforming Healthcare Through Shared Medical Appointments: A Conversation with Dr. Kathleen Findlay

    What does it take to build a thriving lifestyle medicine practice in rural America? Dr. Kathleen Findlay takes us behind the scenes of her remarkable journey establishing a comprehensive lifestyle medicine program in her small Wisconsin hometown. After 20 years away, Dr. Findlay returned home with a vision to transform healthcare delivery in her community. Starting with a simple knock on the CEO's door, she secured permission to create an integrative medicine practice that eventually evolved into a full-fledged lifestyle medicine program at a critical access hospital with rural health clinics. Despite the significant regulatory hurdles—from space limitations to coding restrictions that seemed to prohibit group visits—Dr. Findlay and her team found creative solutions to make lifestyle medicine work within the constraints of government-funded healthcare. The heart of their success? Shared medical appointments that Dr. Findlay describes as creating a "family" among participants. These group sessions not only work financially within the Rural Health Clinic model but generate the community connections critically missing in rural healthcare. Their 12-session intensive lifestyle program expanded organically as patients wanted more, leading to innovations like culinary medicine without a teaching kitchen and partnerships with local fitness centers. Perhaps most impressive is how their model expanded to pediatrics, helping children struggling with anxiety and obesity through lifestyle interventions. Looking for inspiration in healthcare transformation? Dr. Findlay's story shows that with leadership support, creative problem-solving, and unwavering dedication, lifestyle medicine can thrive even where it seems most improbable.

    10 min

  5. 06/12/2025

    Your Blood Is Telling You How To Live Longer—Are You Listening?

    The Reverse Mullet Healthcare Podcast

    11 min

  6. 06/11/2025

    Why Treating Root Causes Could Solve America's Healthcare Crisis with Caroline Collins

    Healthcare's identity crisis sits at the heart of our inability to truly help patients get healthy. Dr. Caroline Collins, an internal medicine physician at Emory University, joins the Reverse Mullet Healthcare Podcast to reveal how she's championing lifestyle medicine inside one of America's leading academic medical centers. What happens when a physician decides to focus on the root causes of disease rather than just treating symptoms? Dr. Collins shares her personal journey, sparked by witnessing diabetes and cancer in her own family, that led her to become a voice for change at Emory. "I can't give you a pill or an injection to make you healthy," she tells patients. "It's really about how we live our lives." The conversation unveils Emory's groundbreaking work in lifestyle medicine research and their upcoming lifestyle and weight management clinic focusing on employee health and pre-surgical optimization. This "prehabilitation" approach demonstrates how preparing patients before surgery dramatically reduces complications and costs—transforming potential ICU stays into outpatient procedures. The most revealing moments come when discussing healthcare's fundamental misalignment of incentives. "If patients are healthier, who's going to fill your clinic schedule?" This exposes the uncomfortable truth: our current system financially rewards sickness, not health. Dr. Collins describes the "schizophrenic" nature of healthcare organizations pushing volume-based metrics while simultaneously embracing value-based care contracts. Ready to understand why common-sense approaches to health aren't common practice? Listen now and discover what it takes to transform healthcare from within the system itself.

    11 min

  7. 06/10/2025

    The Science of Cellular Rejuvenation Through Fasting-Mimicking Diets with Dr. Joseph Antoun

    Are we approaching fasting all wrong? In this fascinating conversation with Dr. Joseph Antoun, MD-PhD and CEO of L-Nutra, we dive deep into the science of cellular rejuvenation through fasting-mimicking diets—a revolutionary approach backed by research from 18 universities including Harvard, Stanford, and Mayo Clinic. Dr. Antoun challenges conventional wisdom about intermittent fasting, explaining why skipping breakfast might actually work against longevity goals. Instead, he advocates for "front-loading" your fasting period—finishing dinner by 7pm and eating breakfast the next morning—to align with your body's natural hormonal rhythms and metabolic needs. The true magic happens when we explore ProLon, L-Nutra's pioneering 5-day fasting-mimicking food program. Unlike traditional fasting, this scientifically formulated nutrition plan keeps you eating while your body enters a deep fasting state, triggering cellular "autophagy"—the Nobel Prize-winning self-cleaning and rejuvenation process that starts around day three. Research published in Nature shows three cycles can reverse biological age by 2.5 years. Perhaps most groundbreaking is the application for chronic disease management through the new L-Nutra Health platform. Clinical trials demonstrate two-thirds of diabetes patients reduced medication within six months of following their protocol—just five days monthly of specialized nutrition with physician and dietician support. Health economic studies show insurers break even in just ten months, creating a rare alignment between patient outcomes and financial incentives. Whether you're seeking longevity, weight management, or a science-based approach to metabolic health, this conversation illuminates how precisely formulated nutrition can activate your body's innate healing mechanisms—potentially changing your relationship with food, fasting, and cellular aging.

    32 min

  8. 06/09/2025

    Shawn Martin on Healthcare’s Inflection Point: Realigning Incentives to Prioritize Health

    Healthcare has reached what Shawn Martin from the American Academy of Family Physicians calls an "inflection point" unlike any other. Joining us at the American College of Lifestyle Medicine Conference, Martin shares how our system's overwhelming focus on late-stage disease intervention has created a financial and clinical disconnect that's pushing us toward a breaking point. The conversation reveals a startling truth: our healthcare system wasn't built to help people become healthy. Instead, as Martin explains, interventions have historically been designed "to save a hospital money, to save the employer money, to save the insurer money" rather than helping patients live better lives. This misalignment of incentives has created what one host calls our collective "Wile E. Coyote moment" - we've run off the cliff of sustainability and haven't yet looked down. But within this crisis lies unprecedented opportunity. Lifestyle medicine emerges as a catalyst for transformation, offering physicians tools to not just manage chronic disease but potentially reverse it. For the 130,000 family physicians represented by AAFP across 95% of US counties, this approach reconnects them with the type of care they envisioned providing when entering medicine. It's not about expensive technology or complicated protocols - it's about returning to foundations of health that have been overlooked in our complex system. Listen now to understand how combining lifestyle medicine with emerging value-based payment models could finally align financial incentives with patient outcomes and rebuild healthcare on a foundation of health rather than disease.

    15 min
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Ellen Brown, Justin Politi, and Dave Pavlik bring their 90 collective years of healthcare experience to BP2 Health where they're on a mission to effect real change in the industry. Connect with BP2 Health Here: https://bp2health.com/contact/

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