Speaks Volumes - A Podcast About Mastering and Life Outside Mastering

Dan Coutant and Mat Leffler-Schulman

Speaks Volumes is a podcast hosted by mastering engineers Dan Coutant and Mat Leffler-Schulman. We talk about supporting our fellow engineers, work/life balance, and maintaining good mental health in a stressful and competitive industry. For more information on Dan and Mat: https://srmastering.com - https://matlefflerschulman.com

  1. Sep 2

    S03 | E02 - Idania Valencia - The Power of Persistence

    Speaks Volumes continues Season 3 with a mastering engineer who wanted the job before she'd ever really seen it done. She just knew it was mysterious, and that was enough. Idania Valencia grew up in Mexico City, picked mastering as her goal before finishing school, and got turned away by Sterling Sound's internship program only to land the job anyway by showing up in person and leaving a resume. Eleven years later, she's still there, now out of the New Jersey facility and into Sterling's LA room. Dan Coutant and Mat Leffler-Schulman talk with Idania about the years of QC work under Tom Coyne that actually taught her to master, the tiny EQ moves that get masters approved or rejected that "nobody" else can hear, her LUFS targets and honest take on the loud-reference epidemic, and how burning out on an insane schedule led to fibromyalgia, therapy, and a real sense of balance, plus what it's actually like trading Sterling's tight-knit East Coast culture for LA's more open one. Music in this episode: "Strawberry Moon" by Nashville artist Maddie Ettrich. About Our GuestIdania Valencia is a mastering engineer at Sterling Sound, where she has worked for 11 years, starting as a production engineer for Tom Coyne. Originally from Mexico City, she studied music composition at Academia de Música Fermatta before Full Sail University's recording arts program, and now works out of Sterling's Los Angeles location. Her mastering credits include Sam Smith, Shawn Mendes, Charli XCX, Ariana Grande, Coldplay, and Of Monsters and Men. Topics We Covered The backup plan that wasn't. Growing up around music through her non-musician, bohemian father, choosing composition for college, and her parents' insistence on a backup plan that happened to sound like "an engineering" degreeFinding mastering on purpose. Trying recording and a physically demanding, male-dominated live-sound gig first, and being drawn to mastering specifically because it was the mysterious, unexplained part of the processThe resume that got the callback. Applying to every studio in New York, getting turned down by Sterling for an internship, and going in person anyway with a resume in a nice folderTrained by QC, not theory. Years assisting Tom Coyne, mentored by Aya Merrill and Will Quinnell, learning to tell the difference between a mix problem and a mastering problem one distortion at a timeThe moves nobody else can hear. EQ changes so small other engineers insist they're inaudible, but they're the difference between a master getting approved or rejected. Feel and instinct over pure technical processStacking limiters. Why she sometimes runs two or three limiters instead of one, same type or different, for more control than any single limiter gives herLUFS, true peak, and the loud-ref epidemic. Her real-world targets (around -8 to -6 LUFS depending on genre), rarely applying true peak limiting herself, and her nuanced take on loud references: it depends entirely on who the mixer isBurnout, fibromyalgia, and finding balance. The insanely paced years assisting Coyne and then Randy Merrill, the chronic pain that followed, and the therapy and boundary-setting that got her to a healthier placeNYC vs. LA. Sterling's self-contained East Coast culture versus the more open, curious engineering community she's found since moving, and why Mexico City always felt more like LA than New York ever didLinks Sterling Sound: https://www.sterling-sound.comIdania Valencia at Sterling Sound: https://www.sterling-sound.com/engineer/idania-valenciaIdania's Mix with the Masters mastering workshop: https://mixwiththemasters.com/masters/idania-valenciaRose Gray, "Club to Your Arms": https://rosegray.lnk.to/clubtoyourarmsAcademia de Música Fermatta: https://www.fermatta.edu.mxFull Sail University: https://www.fullsail.eduMaddie Ettrich: https://www.maddieettrich.com

    S03 | E02 - Idania Valencia - The Power of Persistence
  2. Jul 21

    S03 | E01 - Greg Obis - Wearing Every Hat

    Speaks Volumes is back for Season 3, and we're kicking things off with someone who went from mopping floors at Chicago Mastering Service to owning the place. Greg Obis interned at Electrical Audio, talked his way into CMS in 2012 by offering to vacuum and grab groceries for Bob Weston and Jason Ward, and spent a decade working his way up from quality control to full-time mastering engineer. Then in 2024, Bob announced he was moving to Portugal, and Greg made him an offer. Mat Leffler-Schulman and Dan Coutant talk with Greg about the surreal jump from employee to owner, the lost art (and real fear) of cutting lacquers, why he asks clients to remove peak limiting, the loudness "come to Jesus" talk, reference mixes from The Replacements to Converge, and balancing life as a business owner with his band Stuck. Greg's latest record with Stuck, Optimizer, is out now on Exploding In Sound Records. Music in this episode: "Sicko" by Stuck, from Optimizer. About Our Guest Greg Obis is a mastering engineer and the owner of Chicago Mastering Service, where he has worked since 2012. He has mastered records for artists on labels including Sub Pop, Matador, ANTI-, Numero Group, Sacred Bones, and International Anthem. He also co-founded Born Yesterday Records and plays guitar and sings in the band Stuck. Topics We Covered From intern to owner. Greg's path from Bennington College and an Electrical Audio internship to offering Bob Weston studio chores in exchange for a foot in the door, then a decade climbing from QC and archiving to a full mastering workloadBuying CMS. How Bob's move to Portugal turned into a handover instead of a shipping container, why building a new room from scratch priced itself out of the running, and the "child emperor" phase of suddenly running the showWearing every hat. Taking over project management, invoicing, and scheduling while keeping his own clients happy, and how coming up through quality control made him a better communicatorRevisions and being the fall guy. Why the mastering engineer, like a monitor engineer, is the last one in the chain and the first to catch blame, and why recall requests are the most valuable education in the businessReference mixes. Greg's listening playlist: "Bastards of Young" by The Replacements, Yes, Yellow Magic Orchestra, Kendrick Lamar, and Converge for when he needs something absurdly loud. Plus the legend of a Daft Punk record allegedly mastered twiceLacquer cutting. Learning on Bob's Neumann VMS 70, the fear of a blown cutter head, how cutting changed his digital work, and the great lathe-versus-house-down-payment debate now that the VMS 70 lives in PortugalPeak limiting and loudness. Greg's "limiter on or limiter off" philosophy, asking clients for unlimited mixes, 32-bit float delivery, and talking a client back from the loudness ledge with help from Tone Projects Uni-LWhen to say no. Mostly when it's a mix problem mastering can't solve. Otherwise: offer the professional opinion, then respect that it's their recordLife outside the racks. Stuck's new album Optimizer, touring while running a business, cooking, weightlifting as a third space, and Greg's dream of a gloriously unlistenable side project made purely for the joy of it Links Chicago Mastering Service: https://chicagomasteringservice.comGreg Obis: https://www.gregobis.comGreg's Substack, Live. Laugh. LUFS.: https://livelaughlufs.substack.comStuck, "Sicko" from Optimizer (Exploding In Sound Records): https://stuckchi.bandcamp.com/album/optimizerBorn Yesterday Records: https://www.bornyesterdayrecords.com

    S03 | E01 - Greg Obis - Wearing Every Hat

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Speaks Volumes is a podcast hosted by mastering engineers Dan Coutant and Mat Leffler-Schulman. We talk about supporting our fellow engineers, work/life balance, and maintaining good mental health in a stressful and competitive industry. For more information on Dan and Mat: https://srmastering.com - https://matlefflerschulman.com

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