There's a version of building your business that feels like the current is with you. And there's a version that feels like swimming upstream. If you're a multi-skilled, integrity-driven coach, therapist or expert — you feel that difference in your whole body. Your sensitivity is your gift. Which means when the flow is gone, it doesn't just feel hard. It feels wrong. In this episode of the Embodied & Wealthy Podcast, I sit down with Darryl Collett — Shaolin Kung Fu and Qigong master, and my teacher of 20 years — for one of the most alive conversations I've ever recorded. We go deep on three things: flow, energy, and success. And by the end of this episode, you'll have a completely different relationship with all three. What Is Flow — Really? Most people think flow is something you create. Something you work toward, optimise for, chase. Sifu Darryl reframes it entirely. Flow is the natural default state of the universe. It's already there. The question isn't how to create it — it's how to stop interrupting it. In this episode, Darryl gives what he calls his best definition of flow: effortless outcome. Depending on what effort we're making — habits, plans, ideas — and how hands-off we are in letting our correct actions become non-action, is how deeply and consistently we stay in flow. We talk about why multi-skilled coaches and experts are particularly sensitive to being in or out of flow — and why that sensitivity, as uncomfortable as it can be, is actually one of your greatest assets. Why We Knock Ourselves Out of Flow This is the part of the conversation that stopped me. Darryl introduces the idea of reasons — the stories, habits, and patterns that feel so convincing in the moment. The "I've always done it this way." The "it didn't work last time." The immediate retreat from a new idea back to familiar ground. We do what we do because reasons. But we rarely stop to ask: are these reasons actually bringing me toward what I want? We also talk about the difference between a sincere desire and one that's quietly carrying someone else's agenda — and how to tell the difference. This is one of the most practically useful distinctions in the whole episode for anyone building a coaching or expert business. What Energy Actually Is The word energy gets used a lot. In coaching, in wellness, in spiritual spaces. And often in ways that feel vague or ungrounded. Darryl explains energy in a way I haven't heard before, as information. Universal energy is the substance with which all physical matter is made and measured. And energy flow is, in his words, the information of effortless outcome. We also talk about energy transmission, what it actually is, why it works, and why being in proximity to someone who embodies flow can shift your own state without you having to understand it intellectually or work for it. I'll be honest: I experienced this just by recording this conversation. By Thursday I was still in it — that quiet hum where everything moves without effort. I hadn't done anything different. I'd just had a conversation. The Most Beautiful Definition of Success Stay until the end of this episode. Darryl gives a definition of success that I have never heard before. It doesn't involve a number, a milestone, or a metric. It starts in the body. And it ends in generosity. I'm not going to give it away here. You need to hear it for yourself. What You'll Take From This Episode This conversation is for you if you've ever felt like you're working harder than you should have to. If you know something bigger is available — in your business, your work, your life — but you keep hitting an invisible ceiling. If the word flow resonates but you're not sure how to actually live it. Darryl has been teaching Kung Fu and Qigong for over 40 years, trained in the Shaolin Wahnam lineage. He works with entrepreneurs, artists, opera singers, and leaders. You won't find him on the internet — he finds his students through the depth of his work. This episode is the closest I can get to putting you in a room with him. Listen all the way to the end. Links & Resources Mentioned 🌿 Pathways to Flow Retreat — Sintra, Portugal, 27–31 May 2026 Five days of flow, energy work, embodiment practices and deep belief clearing with Relinde Moors and Darryl Collett in person. Only 5 spots remaining. www.relindemoors.com/pathways-to-flow-retreat About Darryl Collett Darryl is a Kung Fu and Qigong master trained in the Shaolin Wahnam lineage. Originally from Scotland, he has spent decades travelling the world teaching Qigong to entrepreneurs, artists, and leaders. He has been Relinde's energy teacher for almost 20 years. His approach is simple: be real, let go of what isn't yours, and return to flow. About Relinde Moors Relinde is a former choreographer who built a multiple six-figure coaching business from Bali. She's the founder of Embodied Business™ and the creator of the Embodied Vision™ Method — a framework for releasing deep limiting beliefs on a subconscious, energetic, and somatic level. She works with multi-skilled coaches, therapists and experts who are ready to build a business that honours everything they are. Listen on Apple Podcasts Watch this podcast on Youtube
