CCG Tech Podcast

Centre for Communication Governance
CCG Tech Podcast

The CCG Tech Podcast is designed to engage with and connect academics, policy professionals, decision-makers, and others interested in issues of information technology law and policy. We talk to subject matter experts, technologists, and decision-makers to discuss the implications of emerging technologies on law and policy, and our daily lives. With the rapid pace at which global technologies are evolving, we hope this podcast will create more spaces for conversations, diverse perspectives, thoughts and approaches to how we can bring considerations for societal benefit, democratic values, and constitutional principles closer to the core of technology development.

  1. Building Safe Spaces: Trust and Safety Measures for Young Users Online

    12/12/2024

    Building Safe Spaces: Trust and Safety Measures for Young Users Online

    As young people’s access to online spaces increase, the question of how we can create safe spaces for them becomes increasingly important. In this context, Joanne and Shashank speak with Uthara Ganesh at Snap Inc. about the existing trust and safety measures designed for young people on the internet. They look at areas like threat detection mechanisms, safety by design, parental consent & encryption, data protection laws and the future of trust and safety measures in India. Uthara Ganesh is currently the Head of Public Policy, India and South Asia at Snap Inc. For over 13 years, she has worked with government officials to develop policies that benefit South Asia’s digital ecosystem. Her areas of expertise include privacy and data protection, cloud computing, over-the-top (OTT) services, digital taxation, and online content regulation. Resources: Correction at 0:55 - Snapchat Reaches Over 200 Million Monthly Active Users In India More than 80% of Snapchat’s Indian users are between ages 13-24 Recommendation algorithms and the Rabbit Hole effect Snapchat’s safety technologies including protecting against stranger interactions, automated filters for content moderation Snapchat’s ephemerality feature Snapchat’s family centre feature Kids Online Safety Act in the United States https://blog.ipleaders.in/pocso-act-everything-you-need-to-know/ Age Appropriate Design Code in the United Kingdom The Pre-Legislative Consultation Policy (PLCP) of 2014 in India Hosts: Joanne D’Cunha, Shashank Mohan Editor: Gopika P Fact Checker: Joanne D’Cunha This podcast is created by the ⁠Centre for Communication Governance⁠ at NLUD. Reach out for any queries / suggestions at ccgoutreach@nludelhi.ac.in (The opinions expressed in the episode are personal to the speaker. The University does not subscribe to the views expressed in the episode and does not take any responsibility for the same.)

    38 min
  2. Platform Transparency in Global Majority Countries: A Brazilian Perspective

    10/31/2024

    Platform Transparency in Global Majority Countries: A Brazilian Perspective

    In this episode, Tavishi and Shobhit speak with Francisco Brito Cruz of InternetLab on platform transparency in the Brazilian context. They look at how it is applied in global majority countries, ideas on risk assessments and data access mechanisms, independent regulators and what meaningful transparency would mean for an ordinary user. Francisco Brito Cruz [Chico] is the Executive Director and co-founder of InternetLab. He is a lawyer, holding a bachelor’s, master’s, and doctoral degree from the University of São Paulo Law School (FDUSP). Currently, he is a professor in the Digital Law postgraduate program at Fundação Getúlio Vargas Law School in São Paulo and a member of the Steering Committee of the World Movement for Democracy. InternetLab is an independent think tank focused on human rights and digital technologies. It is based in São Paulo, Brazil, and since 2014 works as a non-profit organization. As a human rights organization, they believe that the digital environment must be vibrant, creative, inclusive, protective to fundamental rights, an enabler to the quality of the democratic public sphere, and a promoter of social justice. Hosts: Tavishi, Shobhit Editor: Gopika P Fact Checker: Sukriti This podcast is created by the ⁠Centre for Communication Governance⁠ at NLUD. Reach out for any queries / suggestions at ccgoutreach@nludelhi.ac.in (The opinions expressed in the episode are personal to the speaker. The University does not subscribe to the views expressed in the episode and does not take any responsibility for the same.)

    56 min
  3. Workers or Contractors? The Gig Economy in India

    10/12/2024

    Workers or Contractors? The Gig Economy in India

    With the exponential growth of gig platforms and gig work in India, efforts have been made to try and regulate their impact. In this backdrop, Fawaz and Shobhit speak with Soujanya Sridharan and Ritvik Gupta from Aapti Institute on how the gig economy is evolving in India.  They look at the state of gig work in India, the pros and cons of platformisation, the issues of algorithmic opacity and the ways in which legislative interventions can be applied. Soujanya Sridharan is a Manager at Aapti Institute. At Aapti, her research revolves around forging human-centric pathways to platform and data governance. Her interest in tech policy stems from her thesis research on labour unions within India’s IT industry.  Ritvik Gupta is a Senior analyst at Aapti Institute. Much of his work focuses on India's growing platform economy, particularly location-based, platform-mediated gig work.  Aapti is a public research institution that examines lived experiences at the intersection of technology and society. They generate insights for policy-making and technology development based on grounded research and analysis.  Resources:  Aapti - https://aapti.in/  India’s Booming Gig and Platform Economy (NITI Ayog Report) - https://www.niti.gov.in/sites/default/files/2022-06/25th_June_Final_Report_27062022.pdf  Karnataka’s ban on platform mediated auto services (2022) - https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/bengaluru-news/ktaka-bans-ola-uber-from-providing-auto-services-101665514024401.html  IFAT’s Writ Petition before the Supreme Court seeking social security for gig workers (2021) - https://www.scobserver.in/reports/gig-workers-access-to-social-security-the-indian-federation-of-app-based-transport-workers-ifat-v-union-of-india-writ-petition-summary/  Karnataka’s Gig Workers’s Bill - https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/what-does-the-karnataka-bill-promise-gig-workers-explained/article68375781.ece  Aapti’s report on Building the Driver Advisory Council - https://aapti.in/blog/building-the-driver-advisory-council/  Joint comments by Aapti Institute, IFAT and Vidhi Legal on the Karnataka Platform Based Gig workers (Social Security and Welfare) Bill, 2024 -  https://aapti.in/blog/joint-comments-by-aapti-institute-ifat-and-vidhi-legal-on-the-karnataka-platform-based-gig-workers-social-security-and-welfare-bill-2024/  Aapti’s Recommendations on the Karnataka Gig Workers (Conditions of Service and Welfare) Bill, 2024 - https://aapti.in/blog/recommendations-on-the-karnataka-gig-workers-conditions-of-service-and-welfare-bill-2024/  Hosts: Fawaz Shaheen, Shobhit Editor: Gopika P Fact Checker: Sukriti This podcast is created by the ⁠Centre for Communication Governance⁠ at NLUD. Reach out for any queries / suggestions at ccgoutreach@nludelhi.ac.in  (The opinions expressed in the episode are personal to the speaker. The University does not subscribe to the views expressed in the episode and does not take any responsibility for the same.)

    57 min
  4. Automated Gigs: AI's Impact on Modern Labor

    09/12/2024

    Automated Gigs: AI's Impact on Modern Labor

    The past decade has seen an exponential growth in gig work on platforms. AI plays a critical role in the way these gig platforms function. In this episode, Aishwarya and Nidhi speak with Jane Loo and Nadia Dabee about the role AI plays in the gig economy. They look at how gig work differs from traditional work, models for worker rights, safety and discrimination, and the future of the gig economy on platforms.  Jane Loo is a Senior Research Associate at Singapore Management University’s Centre of AI and Data Governance and Adjunct Faculty at the SMU Yong Pung How School of Law. She works at the intersection of AI and access to justice. Her current research focuses on the impact of the gig economy and comparative approaches to AI governance including Singapore’s AI governance approach versus the EU AI Act.  Dr Nadia Dabee is a senior lecturer at the Business School, University of Auckland, where she teaches employment law and taxation law. She is also a teaching award recipient and a Fellow of the Higher Education Academy (United Kingdom). She pursues research in health & safety law and employment law with an aim of improving outcomes for workers. Resources:  Computer program that won against a human - alpha go https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ais-victories-in-go-inspire-better-human-game-playing/ Uber drivers in Sweden and agreement with Uber Sweden - https://www.business-humanrights.org/my/latest-news/sweden-uber-bolt-drivers-demand-pay-increase-recognition-of-union-in-first-ever-strike-incl-co-comments/ EU (Germany, Spain) authorities classify some gig workers as employees - https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-deal-gig-workers-employees-drivers-contractors-employees-labor-rights/ Singapore identifies platform workers as a new and distinct category of workers in Singapore - https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/platform-workers-bill-food-delivery-riders-ride-hailing-protections-parliament-4596531 Australia has defined platform workers as a distinct category - https://theconversation.com/gig-workers-get-minimum-standards-from-monday-heres-what-will-change-237016#:~:text=The%20new%20law%20empowers%20the,ride%20share%20and%20personal%20carez EU Parliament regulation on gig work - https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/can-eus-gig-worker-rules-tame-management-by-algorithm/articleshow/108543250.cms?from=mdr NZ regulation on the number of breaks a driver must have - https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/uber-introduces-safety-feature-forcing-drivers-to-rest-follow-nzta-rules/HJP3KWTEYEV7SEYOISEPBXVYDI/ Hosts: Aishwarya Giridhar, Nidhi Singh Editor: Gopika P Fact Checker: Srija Naskar This podcast is created by the ⁠Centre for Communication Governance⁠ at NLUD. Reach out for any queries / suggestions at ccgoutreach@nludelhi.ac.in  (The opinions expressed in the episode are personal to the speaker. The University does not subscribe to the views expressed in the episode and does not take any responsibility for the same.)

    53 min
  5. Facing Titans: Regulating Competition in Digital Markets

    08/23/2024

    Facing Titans: Regulating Competition in Digital Markets

    How does competition work in digital markets? Do we need to regulate it the same way we do for other sectors? These are some of the questions addressed in this episode where Aishwarya and Joanne speak with Manjushree RM. They look at competition regulation in digital markets, concentration of power among platforms, the harms to consumers, the situation in India, and the new draft Digital Competition Bill. Manjushree RM is a Senior Resident Fellow and Team Lead at VIDHI Centre for Legal Policy. She has previously advised the Ministry of Corporate Affairs on the Competition (Amendment) Bill, 2022, and has also advised the International Financial Services Centre Authority. Her primary areas of interest are International Economic Law and Competition Law. Resources:  Report of the Committee on Digital Competition Law (CDCL)  Formation of the Competition Law Review Committee (CLRC) The concept of network effects The concept of consumer welfare The concept of relevant market The Digital Competition Bill and it’s requirements from SSDEs (DCB) The effects doctrine Interoperability and data portability under the EU Digital Markets Act (DMA) Hosts: Aishwarya Giridhar, Joanne D’Cunha Editor: Gopika P Fact Checker: Joanne D’Cunha This podcast is created by the ⁠Centre for Communication Governance⁠ at NLUD. Reach out for any queries / suggestions at ccgoutreach@nludelhi.ac.in  (The opinions expressed in the episode are personal to the speaker. The University does not subscribe to the views expressed in the episode and does not take any responsibility for the same.)

    56 min
  6. Wipe the Slate Clear: Addressing Online Violence in India

    08/02/2024

    Wipe the Slate Clear: Addressing Online Violence in India

    How can we address the issue of online violence faced by women and children? In what ways can platforms and law enforcement help the process? These are some of the questions addressed in this episode where Shashank and Tavishi speak with Uma Subramanian. They look at online violence in India, the particular harms faced by women and children, the role of platforms and law enforcement, the problems in reporting, and the work done in this field by RATI.  Uma Subramanian is a social worker and has over 15 years of experience of working with children at risk. She conceptualised and co-founded RATI (Rights. Action. Technology. Inclusion.) and its Aarambh India Initiative. Under the leadership of Uma & her co-founder Siddharth Pillai, the Aarambh India initiative was awarded the Presidential National Award in the year 2017 for their groundbreaking work on Reporting of Child Sexal Abuse Material. At RATI, Uma leads the fundraising, oversees the strategic direction of the organisation and contributes across all programs in implementation of on-ground interventions. Resources:  cybercrime.gov.in portal : https://cybercrime.gov.in/ Data between 2020-2023 : more than 22 lakh complaints on this portal (source): https://ciso.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/cybercrime-fraud/national-cybercrime-portal-got-21-lakh-cases-firs-in-only-2/101268153#:~:text=Delhi%20received%20216%2C739%20complaints%20on,obtained%20by%20activist%20Jeetendra%20Ghadge.  Rati's Trustline: https://ratifoundation.org/meri-trustline/  Stop NCII: https://stopncii.org/ Internet Watch Foundation hotline : https://www.iwf.org.uk/our-technology/ Keyword stuffing: https://developers.google.com/search/docs/essentials/spam-policies#keyword-stuffing Hosts: Shashank Mohan, Tavishi Ahluwalia Editor: Gopika P Fact Checker: Srija Naskar, Joanne D’Cunha This podcast is created by the ⁠Centre for Communication Governance⁠ at NLUD. Reach out for any queries / suggestions at ccgoutreach@nludelhi.ac.in  (The opinions expressed in the episode are personal to the speaker. The University does not subscribe to the views expressed in the episode and does not take any responsibility for the same.)

    53 min
  7. Report, Block, Mute: Role of Trust and Safety Teams in Platforms

    07/13/2024

    Report, Block, Mute: Role of Trust and Safety Teams in Platforms

    What role do trust and safety teams play in platforms? Do we need to change the way they operate? Is governmental interventions in their function necessary? These are some of the questions addressed in this episode where Jhalak and Sachin speak with Mahima Kaul. They look at the function of trust and safety teams, the unequal distribution of resources across regions, the future of content moderation, thoughts on the coming Digital India Bill, and the differences in approach between public and private platforms. Until recently, Mahima Kaul led Bumble's public policy work in the Asia-Pacific region. She supported research in India to develop a framework to tackle technology-facilitated gender-based violence, including risks posed by AI, by partnering with a think tank. She also worked with the Australian government on voluntary codes for the dating app industry and industry codes under the Online Safety Act. Previously, Kaul established Twitter's public policy presence in India and South Asia over a six-year stint. She managed the public policy efforts ranging from intermediary rules, codes for social media during elections, data protection, and online safety impacting users. Resources:  TikTok controversy in the US - https://www.nytimes.com/article/tiktok-ban.html  Australia - Online Safety Act - industry specific codes - https://www.esafety.gov.au/industry/codes  DIA to replace IT Act - https://www.livemint.com/news/government-holds-first-consultation-on-digital-india-act-to-replace-it-act-2000-11678440033837.html  How children in slums use social media / caste, class etc. - https://www.aup.nl/en/book/9789048559947/childrens-digital-experiences-in-indian-slums  Bumble’s proprietary technology to blur pictures in DMs- https://bumble.com/en-in/the-buzz/privatedetector - https://bumble.com/en-in/the-buzz/bumble-open-source-private-detector-ai-cyberflashing-dick-pics Hosts: Jhalak Kakkar, Sachin Dhawan Editor: Gopika P Fact Checker: Sukriti This podcast is created by the ⁠Centre for Communication Governance⁠ at NLUD. Reach out for any queries / suggestions at ccgoutreach@nludelhi.ac.in  (The opinions expressed in the episode are personal to the speaker. The University does not subscribe to the views expressed in the episode and does not take any responsibility for the same.)

    53 min
  8. What's in a Face? The Dark Reality of Facial Recognition Technology

    06/20/2024

    What's in a Face? The Dark Reality of Facial Recognition Technology

    One of the most talked about aspects of AI today is Facial Recognition Technologies (FRTs). States and private parties both are trying their best to find new ways to use this tech - even as regulation lags behind. In Episode 05 of Season 02 of the CCG Tech Podcast, Joanne and Nidhi speak to Abhinav Sekhri on the reality of FRT use in India. They delve into the status of FRT in India, how it’s used, what the possible future ramifications it could have and if we are in a place to even have effective policies for regulating FRTs. Abhinav Sekhri is a lawyer in New Delhi, primarily practicing in criminal Law. He regularly writes about criminal law and procedure in scholarly journals, newspapers and is also founder of a criminal law blog, “The Proof of guilt” which has a very wide circulation especially amongst young law students.  Resources:  “The Proof of guilt” -  http://www.theproofofguilt.blogspot.in/  Matter before Telangana HC : https://internetfreedom.in/telangana-high-court-issues-notice-in-indias-first-legal-challenge-to-the-deployment-of-facial-recognition-technology/  Matter before Madras HC: https://internetfreedom.in/tamil-nadu-frt-challenge/  Telangana/AP state's use of FRT to prevent voter fraud :  https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/hyderabad/telangana-municipal-polls-facial-recognition-app-to-be-used-in-10-polling-booths-on-pilot-basis/  CCTNS which is a centralised database built as a pan-gov measure : https://digitalpolice.gov.in/DigitalPolice/AboutUs  Ed Bridges litigation : https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/issue/legal-challenge-ed-bridges-v-south-wales-police/#:~:text=The%20judgment%20means%20the%20police,were%20breached%20as%20a%20result.  Hosts: Joanne D’Cunha, Nidhi Singh Editor: Gopika P Fact Checker: Srija Naskar This podcast is created by the ⁠Centre for Communication Governance⁠ at NLUD. Reach out for any queries / suggestions at ccgoutreach@nludelhi.ac.in  (The opinions expressed in the episode are personal to the speaker. The University does not subscribe to the views expressed in the episode and does not take any responsibility for the same.)

    46 min
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The CCG Tech Podcast is designed to engage with and connect academics, policy professionals, decision-makers, and others interested in issues of information technology law and policy. We talk to subject matter experts, technologists, and decision-makers to discuss the implications of emerging technologies on law and policy, and our daily lives. With the rapid pace at which global technologies are evolving, we hope this podcast will create more spaces for conversations, diverse perspectives, thoughts and approaches to how we can bring considerations for societal benefit, democratic values, and constitutional principles closer to the core of technology development.

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