Trail Break Radio

Winter Wildlands Alliance

Trail Break Radio, the Winter Wildlands Alliance podcast, takes you beyond the well-trodden path, delving into diverse topics shaping our commitment to protect America’s wild snowscapes. From promoting equitable outdoor access to sharing tales of adventure, we offer fresh insights into recreating on and stewarding our cherished wild spaces. Join the dialogue with experts in public lands management, policy, ecology, and activism, echoing the grassroots spirit that defines Winter Wildlands Alliance.

  1. FEB 4

    Public Lands From the Ground Up: Where Do We Go From Here?

    The agencies charged with managing our federal public lands have been deeply understaffed and chronically underfunded for decades—even before the current administration’s chainsaw approach to government. Many in the public have long been frustrated with the perceived complexity and inefficiency of public process and decision-making. Now, in the wake of the deepest cuts in the history of America’s public lands, are there silver linings for the future? Are there (or will there be) opportunities for legitimate reform that might actually improve the ways that public lands agencies balance sustainable recreation management with resource protection and conservation? SPEAKERS:  Susan Jane Brown, Principal & Chief Legal Counsel, Silvix ResourcesHilary Eisen, Federal Policy Director, Wild MontanaMegan Birzell, Washington State Director, The Wilderness SocietyModerator: Fitz Cahall, Dirtbag Diaries RESOURCES: ⁠Travel Management Rule⁠ Winter Wildlands Alliance Action Center Subscribe to Winter Wildlands Alliance Winter Wildlands Alliance Stash Blog SUPPORTED BY: Outdoor Alliance, REI Co-op, The Mountaineers, Duct Tape Then Beer/Dirt Bag Diaries, High Country News, Phreem Family Brewers,University of Washington’s Pack Forest, and Mountain Training Center CREDITS: Produced and co-hosted by Anneka Williams and Emily Scott Edited by Adam Titmuss Theme music by Rattlesnake Preachers feat. Kerry McClay Additional Music by Blue Dot Sessions

    1h 12m
  2. 05/08/2025 · BONUS

    Keeping Winter Wild: with Hilary Eisen

    What does it take to protect your favorite wild snowscapes—and who’s actually making those decisions? Hilary Eisen, our National Policy Director at Winter Wildlands Alliance, joins the SnowBrains podcast with Miles Clark to peel back the curtain on how we're advocating for backcountry recreation access for all, how grassroots organizations play a vital role in public land management, the challenges and successes of navigating winter policy, and much more. MEET HILARY EISEN: Hilary is an avid backcountry skier and ice climber with a passion for wild landscapes. She leads Winter Wildlands Alliance's work on National Forest winter travel management, forest planning, and other policy issues. Hilary works with our members, grassroots and grasstops partners, agency staff, and elected officials to protect wild snowscapes across the United States. Hilary started her career in public lands in the backcountry, maintaining Forest Service trails and educating the public about Wilderness stewardship as a Wilderness Ranger while spending winters working on wildlife research projects. Prior to joining WWA in 2014, she worked on public lands conservation in Wyoming and Montana. She received her B.A. in conservation biology from Middlebury College and a Master’s degree in wildlife biology from the University of Montana. Email Hilary at heisen@winterwildlands.org. LINKS: The SnowBrains PodcastLearn more and support our policy work Follow @winterwildlandsalliance on InstagramPledge to Ski Kind CREDITS: Trail Break Radio Producer: Emily Scott SnowBrains Podcast: Created by Miles Clark, Edited by Liam Abbott, and music by Chad Croutch Theme music:⁠ ⁠Rattlesnake Preachers⁠⁠ feat. Kerry McClay

    1h 3m
  3. 10/02/2024 · BONUS

    Inside SnowSchool with Kerry McClay

    How do we break down barriers to winter access and inspire the next generation of outdoor stewards? What does it take to connect 35,000 kids annually to snow, science, and conservation? Kerry McClay, the founder and director of SnowSchool at Winter Wildlands Alliance, sits down with Life in Motion host Jeremy Lux to explore how SnowSchool has grown into a national program. Kerry shares his journey into outdoor education and conservation, discusses the importance of introducing kids to wild snowscapes, and highlights the challenges of making winter recreation accessible to all. MEET KERRY MCCLAY: Kerry joined Winter Wildlands Alliance in 2013 after helping establish the National Flagship SnowSchool site with Bogus Basin Mountain Recreation Area and the Boise National Forest. Kerry is a graduate of the University of Montana and Prescott College, and completed a Doctorate of Education at Boise State University. Working collaboratively with snow scientists and educators, Kerry designed the innovative SnowSchool curriculum now utilized across the US snow-belt to introduce thousands of children to the joy of exploring their local winter wildlands every season. Kerry lives in Boise and enjoys being outside whenever possible with his wife and their young daughter. Email Kerry at kmcclay@winterwildlands.org. LINKS: ⁠Life in Motion podcast Learn more and support SnowSchool @WWASnowSchool on Instagram SPONSORED BY⁠: Actual Outdoors CREDITS: Trail Break Radio Producer: Emily Scott Life in Motion Host: Jeremy Lux with Illumine Collect Theme music:⁠ ⁠Rattlesnake Preachers⁠⁠ feat. Kerry McClay

    54 min
  4. 02/23/2024 · BONUS

    Hypocrite: With Amie Engerbretson

    How do we address "The Hypocrite" in all of us? How much do our individual actions actually matter in the face of climate change and systemic environmental issues? Can we drop our judgments of others and of ourselves in order to take positive action and work together for the common good? Will snowmobilers and skiers ever find a way to get along? Amie Engerbretson, snowmobiler, filmmaker and professional skier, sits down with David Page, Winter Wildlands Alliance’s  Executive Director, to shed light on the importance of uniting all outdoor enthusiasts—regardless of their recreational choices—in the fight against climate change while giving us a behind-the-scenes look at her latest film, "The Hypocrite." MEET AMIE ENGERBRETSON: Amie is a multifaceted professional skier known for her dynamic presence in the mountains. Beginning her skiing journey at Palisades Tahoe, she has since showcased her skills in renowned productions such as ‘Weak Layers,’ ‘Timeless,’ and ‘Boots Over Brim.’ With a degree in Media Management from Columbia College, Amie transitions often between roles behind and in front of the camera. Her diverse portfolio includes films, print, videos, and her podcast, "Long Underwear." Recognized for her climate advocacy, she was awarded the 2021 Alliance Member of the Year by Protect Our Winters for her impactful contributions to climate action. Follow Amie on Instagram @AmieSki. LINKS: ‘The Hypocrite’ ⁠Backcountry Film Festival⁠ ⁠Ski Kind⁠ SPONSORED BY⁠: Mammoth Brewing Company’s Ski Kind Mountain Lager  TRANSCRIPT: (⁠⁠⁠available here⁠⁠⁠) CREDITS: Editor and Audio Engineer: Tess Goodwin Host: David Page Producer: Emily Scott Theme music: ⁠Rattlesnake Preachers⁠ feat. Kerry McClay

    1h 2m
  5. 01/12/2024

    Stewarding Winter

    With more of us recreating on our winter snowscapes, how can we improve partnerships with land managers and other users to educate the growing number of winter recreationists? How can land managers help us reduce our collective impact on the lands where we recreate?  SPEAKER BIOS: Tyler Ray: Tyler is an outdoor recreation attorney and advocate based in New Hampshire. He is the founder of Backyard Concept, LLC, and co-founder of Granite Backcountry Alliance, a WWA Grassroots Group pioneering the use of active forest glading as a winter recreation management tool on National Forest lands in New Hampshire and Maine. Tyler is also co-founder, with WWA, of the Ski Kind brand. Anne Gaspar: Previously a USFS Wilderness Ranger, Timber Stand Improvement team member, Canada Lynx researcher, and Trails Coordinator on the White River National Forest, Anne is now the Program Manager for Vail Pass Winter Recreation Area and Hut Master for Summit Huts Association. Shane Tulp: Shane has led a USFS Backcountry Trail Crew for the past 6 summers and has been a Snow Ranger for the Ouray and Grand Valley Ranger Districts for the past 3 winters via Colorado Mountain Club. He is also a Great American Outdoors Act Coordinator for the USFS in Gunnison, CO. RESOURCES: Granite Backcountry Alliance Backyard Concept Great  American Outdoors Act  Colorado  Mountain  Club Vail Pass Winter Recreation Area Vail Pass Task Force White River National Forest Snow Rangers Red Mountain Pass RIMS App Backcountry Film Festival Ski Kind SPONSORS⁠: ⁠⁠Outdoor Alliance⁠⁠ ⁠⁠The Mighty Arrow Family Foundation⁠⁠ ⁠⁠REI⁠⁠ Denali Arts Council TRANSCRIPTS: (⁠⁠click here⁠⁠) CREDITS: Produced/Edited by Tess Goodwin Co-hosted by David Page Co-hosted and Directed by Emily Scott Music by Rattlesnake Preachers feat. Kerry McClay

    1 hr
  6. 01/05/2024

    Backcountry Bliss and Wildlife Wellness

    Is our growing presence in the backcountry stressing wintering wildlife and degrading their habitats? Can we responsibly use wildlife habitat as our playgrounds? How can we keep wildlife in mind, keep disturbances and displacements minimal as climate change increases, and ensure that wildlife populations can be resilient in an uncertain future? SPEAKER BIOS: Sarah Dewey: Sarah is a Wildlife Biologist at Grand Teton National Park and the Chair of the Teton Range Bighorn Sheep Working Group. She monitors, researches, and manages the ungulate populations in the park, including bighorn sheep, bison, elk, moose, mule deer, and pronghorn. Kurt Hellman: Kurt is the Senior Coordinator of the Wildlife-Recreation Coexistence Program for Conservation Northwest. While supporting conservation efforts through grassroots activism, Kurt also works to better the relationship between wildlife and outdoor recreation across Washington state. Mike Crosby: Mike is a 34-year veteran of the Colorado Division of Wildlife, now Colorado Parks and Wildlife. He currently serves as President of the Open Lands, Rivers, and Trails committee and helped found the Wintering Wildlife Conservation Initiative in 2021. RESOURCES: Conservation Northwest Teton Bighorn Sheep Working Group Bighorn Sheep Working Group Recommendations Wintering Wildlife Conservation Initiative Denizens of the Steep Poster: Minimizing our Impacts to Wintering Wildlife ⁠Colorado Mountain Club⁠ SPONSORS⁠: ⁠Outdoor Alliance⁠ ⁠The Mighty Arrow Family Foundation⁠ ⁠REI⁠ TRANSCRIPTS: (⁠click here⁠) CREDITS: Produced/Edited by Tess Goodwin Co-hosted by David Page Co-hosted and Directed by Emily Scott Music by Rattlesnake Preachers feat. Kerry McClay

    58 min
  7. 12/22/2023

    Silent Slopes, Loud Data

    We're talking apps, maps, data collection, and the tricky dance between citizen science, data bias and user privacy. We'll unravel the importance of reliable visitor-use data, not just for solitude-seekers but for the land managers, policymakers, and other advocates for wild snowscapes and quiet winter recreation zones. How can we leverage new cutting-edge tools to make better-informed decisions? Speaker Bios: Chelsea Phillippe: Is the Trails Inventory and Planner and Park Ranger Supervisor for the Salt Lake Ranger District on the Uinta-Wasatch-Cache National Forest. Prior to this position, Chelsea worked as a Wilderness Ranger and Education Specialist on the Bridger-Teton and Sawtooth National Forests. Will Sladek: Joined onX Maps in 2021 to activate onX‘s mission of Awakening the Adventurer within Everyone to human powered recreation. As the General Manager of the onX Backcountry app, Will works to provide adventurers with the information and interactive maps they need to plan their next hike, ski, or adventure all in one place. Prior to onX, he was a senior vice president at Backcountry Group, where he held a variety strategy and operations roles. He lives in Park City, UT with his wife and their young son. He is a lifelong adventurer who is up for any excuse to get into the backcountry, most recently that’s been introducing their young son to the mountains in as many ways as possible. Nicole Budine: Originally from New York, Nicole has lived and worked throughout the west in Alaska, Oregon, Washington, and Wyoming, but moving to Colorado in 2019 felt like home. Prior to joining Colorado Mountain Club as their Policy Director, Nicole served as an attorney for the State of Wyoming specializing in water quality law and worked in other environmental policy roles. Nicole loves to get outside as often as possible, usually through climbing, snowboarding, biking, or looking at interesting plants and rocks along the trail. Resources: OnX Backcountry - Become a Winter Wildlands Alliance member for 20% off! Colorado Mountain Club RIMS App Salt Lake Ranger District Trail Counting Program with Wasatch Backcountry Alliance Tri-Canyon Trails Plan Forest Service App Outdoor Alliance Sponsors: WYldlife for Tomorrow Jackson Hole EcoTour Adventures Outdoor Alliance The Mighty Arrow Family Foundation REI Transcripts: (click here) Credits: Produced/Edited by Tess Goodwin Co-hosted by David Page Co-hosted and Directed by Emily Scott Music by Rattlesnake Preachers feat. Kerry McClay

    1h 6m
  8. 12/15/2023

    Athlete Advocacy: Powder and Purpose

    How can athletes support local and national advocacy efforts, contribute to advocacy outside of social media influencer-ship, and more? What are the challenges and opportunities of working with brand names and big-name advocacy orgs? Speaker Bios: Nicole Brown: Outdoor Alliance’s Communications and Marketing Associate. She has been exploring and advocating for the outdoors most of her life. She grew up racing BMX, but it was quiet hiking trails and long backpacking trips that brought her back to outdoor recreation as an adult. Nicole founded Women Who Hike and has worked with American Hiking Society, Hydro Flask, Merrell, and the Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance. Caroline Gleich: American skier, mountaineer, and environmental activist. She is notable for her advocacy for environmental justice and climate reform. She is an Ambassador for Winter Wildlands Alliance and Protect Our Winters. She has submitted Everest and is the first women to ever complete all 90 lines in "The Chuting Gallery" of the Wasatch. Connor Ryan: Proud Hunkpapa Lakota and passionate skier—in 2022 named one of the “20 Most Influential People in the Outdoor Industry” by Outside Magazine—Connor was born and raised in the homelands of the Arapaho, Cheyenne, and Ute peoples, who have become some of his biggest inspirations and closest relatives, at the foot of the Rocky Mountains in Colorado. Skiing is his dance and prayer, a ceremony of its own, one that offers a chance to center himself within nature and the Great Mystery of the universe surrounding him. Connor works to inspire others to deepen their connection to the places they live and play in order for us all to be better relatives to our planet, our communities, and ourselves. Resources: Spirt of the Peaks The Scholarship of Stoke Advocacy 101 Outdoor Alliance Connor's Instagram Caroline's Instagram Sponsors: Outdoor Alliance⁠, ⁠Mighty Arrow Family Foundation⁠, ⁠REI⁠ Alaska Guide Collective If you're interested in sponsoring an episode, email Emily at escott@winterwildlands.org. Transcript: (here) Credits: Directed by Emily Scott Hosted by David Page Edited and produced by Tess Goodwin Music by ⁠Rattlesnake Preachers

    1h 11m

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Trail Break Radio, the Winter Wildlands Alliance podcast, takes you beyond the well-trodden path, delving into diverse topics shaping our commitment to protect America’s wild snowscapes. From promoting equitable outdoor access to sharing tales of adventure, we offer fresh insights into recreating on and stewarding our cherished wild spaces. Join the dialogue with experts in public lands management, policy, ecology, and activism, echoing the grassroots spirit that defines Winter Wildlands Alliance.