The Cave Project

Jenny and Greg Swan

Since 2023, The Cave Project with Jenny and Greg Swan has explored the tensions of tech, culture, and life as they collide. Inspired by Plato’s Allegory of the Cave, each episode helps you make sense of the shadows, including AI, social media, digital habits, psychology, and modern identity, with humor, curiosity, and a few swear words.

  1. 07/30/2025

    Are We Being Mean to Robots? The Rise of ‘Clankers,’ AI Slurs, and the Ethics of Punching Down

    Are we being mean to robots? Is it just internet snark or the start of something deeper and more dangerous? In this episode, Jenny and Greg Swan explore the sudden rise of “clanker” as an anti-robot slur. They dig into whether discrimination toward AI is harmless fun, a new moral frontier, or just a mirror reflecting how we treat anything with less power than us (including each other). Along the way they unpack science fiction, Star Wars lore, power dynamics, Ray Kurzweil’s predictions, and why your Roomba probably deserves a little more respect. 🤖 What “clanker” actually means and where it came from (thanks, Clone Wars) 🧠 Why people are projecting emotions onto robots — and then getting mad at them 🪞 The ethics of punching down and what it says about us as humans 🧼 How to be nice to your robot vacuum and why it matters more than you think 🧩 The Singularity, sentience, and whether AI slurs could become digital abuse 🔧 “NPCs,” “meat puppets,” and the language we use to dehumanize each other 🏆 WWOPD: What Would Optimus Prime Do? This convo will have you rethinking how you talk to Alexa, your self-checkout kiosk, and maybe even your toaster. Because in the future, kindness might be the most human thing we’ve got. Follow & Subscribe for More Tech, Culture & Chaos: 📚 ⁠Subscribe on Substack⁠ 🎥 ⁠Watch on YouTube⁠ 📸 ⁠Follow on Instagram⁠ The future isn’t neutral. Let’s figure it out together. 🚀

    42 min
  2. 06/23/2025

    Why Tech Needs More Whimsy, with Guest Dr. AnnMarie Thomas

    What if joy, whimsy, and surprise weren’t distractions—but design principles?In this episode, Jenny and Greg Swan sit down with educator, engineer, and deep sea explorer Dr. AnnMarie Thomas to talk about the power of play—and why we all need more of it. AnnMarie has helped LEGO invent new tools for learning, collaborated with the band OK Go to create STEM curriculum, and taught college students how to build circuses to teach physics. She's also a recovering professor who walked away from tenure to rethink how we learn, create, and live. In this episode, we unpack:🎈 What real play looks like (hint: it’s not pizza parties and ping pong tables)🧠 Why Minecraft might be the best teamwork training Gen Alpha ever gets🎭 How surprise rewires our brains—and why we need more of it in tech📚 What even counts as “technology,” and why our definition is way too narrow🤖 Whether innovation is actually being crushed by productivity culture This conversation had us rethinking everything from AI to ice cream. If you’ve ever wondered how to stay creative in a hyper-optimized world, or why whimsy still matters, this one's for you. 🪄 It’s not about being silly for the sake of it. It’s about being human. 🔥 Follow & Subscribe for More Tech, Culture & Chaos: 📖 Subscribe on Substack📺 Watch on YouTube📸 Follow on Instagram The future isn’t neutral. Let’s figure it out together. 🚀

    49 min

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Since 2023, The Cave Project with Jenny and Greg Swan has explored the tensions of tech, culture, and life as they collide. Inspired by Plato’s Allegory of the Cave, each episode helps you make sense of the shadows, including AI, social media, digital habits, psychology, and modern identity, with humor, curiosity, and a few swear words.