What does it actually mean to create a safe building, a safe workplace and a genuine culture of safety? And have we become so focused on demonstrating compliance that we sometimes lose sight of the people we're supposed to be protecting? In this episode of Beyond Four Walls, I’m joined by Dr Shaun Lundy, Chief Strategy Officer at Tetra Consulting, for a conversation that goes far beyond policies, risk assessments and ticking boxes. Shaun has more than 25 years’ experience spanning occupational health and safety, building engineering, academia and the built environment. He is a Chartered Fellow of IOSH, a Chartered Building Engineer, President Elect of IOSH, Chair of the IOSH Construction Community and a Board Member of The Property Institute. Together, we explore what good safety culture really looks like and why compliance alone doesn’t necessarily mean that an organisation — or a building — is safe. We discuss the changing responsibilities facing those working within residential property, the increasing focus on competence following the Building Safety Act and whether property professionals are always being given the knowledge, resources and support they need to meet the responsibilities placed upon them. We also look at the human side of health and safety. What happens when the risk isn't a fire, a piece of equipment or a building defect, but another person? From aggression and harassment to abuse and personal safety, we discuss whether our understanding of workplace safety needs to evolve to better protect the people working on the frontline of the property industry. We also talk about leadership, accountability, technology and AI, the future of the health and safety profession and what Shaun hopes to influence as he prepares to take on the role of President of IOSH. In this episode, we discuss: Why safety should never become a tick-box exerciseThe difference between being compliant and genuinely being safeHow leadership influences organisational safety cultureWhat competence really means in today's property industryThe impact of the Building Safety ActThe responsibilities being placed on property professionalsThe importance of the golden thread and good information managementWhy paperwork alone doesn't create safer buildingsTechnology, AI and the future of risk managementProtecting employees from aggression, harassment and abuseWhy psychological and personal safety belong in the health and safety conversationThe importance of putting people at the centre of decision-makingShaun's ambitions for his Presidency of IOSHWhat more than 25 years working in safety has taught Shaun about peopleUltimately, this conversation comes back to something very simple: Safety isn't about paperwork. It's about people. Because behind every risk assessment, piece of legislation, building and compliance requirement is a person whose safety depends on us getting it right. This episode of Beyond Four Walls is proudly sponsored by Tetra Consulting. Tetra Consulting provides specialist health and safety, fire safety, building safety and property risk management services across the built environment, with a clear purpose: making buildings safer for people. Thank you so much for listening to Beyond Four Walls. If you’ve been inspired by today’s conversation and you’d like to share your own story, I’d love to hear from you. You can reach me directly at jodie@jodiefraser.com if you’d like to be a guest on the podcast. I’d also like to say a special thank you to my podcast producer, Shirley Ludford, at Swindon 105.5 – Swindon’s award-winning community radio station. It’s run by an incredible team of volunteers who are passionate about giving a voice to the local community. You can find out more about the station at www.swindon1055.co.uk If you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, and sharing it with someone who might find it helpful. Please follow me at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/beyond-four-walls-the-podcast-with-jodie-fraser/ https://www.instagram.com/beyond_four_walls_the_podcast_?igsh=MWQ1MDU4dG5pdmFhbw%3D%3D&utm_source=qr https://www.instagram.com/the_jodie_fraser?igsh=aWZ5czFtdHBndXln&utm_source=qr ...