Perspectives: First Church San Diego Pastors Podcast

FUMC San Diego

The women clergy of First United Methodist Church of San Diego tackle important questions about scripture, theology, and life – reinventing faith through a fresh new perspective. First Church of San Diego is a progressive Christian community where all are welcome to explore their spirituality and seek God's love. Find us online at https://www.fumcsd.org. Or follow us on: • YouTube (@FirstChurchSanDiego): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH03nH-ydfR7WVxv5-L9V5Q • Facebook (@fumcsd): https://www.facebook.com/fumcsd • Instagram (@firstchurchsd): https://www.instagram.com/firstchurchsd/ • Patreon (@fumcsd): https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd

  1. 17h ago

    What Do We Do When God Is Silent? | Habakkuk, Injustice & Waiting for Answers | Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast S4E3 (Audio)

    What do we do when God is silent? When we pray, ask for help, and nothing seems to change? Can arguing with God actually be an act of faith? In this episode of Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast, Revs. Trudy and Hannah explore the book of Habakkuk and what this ancient conversation with God might teach us about faith, doubt, injustice, and waiting for answers. Habakkuk’s story is different than the other prophets. He doesn't quietly accept suffering. He asks God, “How long?” He questions what God is doing, challenges God's response, and brings his anger, anguish, and frustration directly into the relationship. And when God answers, the response doesn't immediately make things better. Instead, Habakkuk invites us into the uncomfortable space between what is and what we hope will be—a place where faith may mean staying engaged with God even when we don't have answers. In this conversation, the female pastors explore: Why lament can be an expression of faith How we can talk honestly with God during times of distress Whether questioning or disagreeing with God can be part of faith How Habakkuk challenges our certainty about what is “righteous” Righteousness as faithfulness and relationship with God, instead of a code of morality The danger of assuming we know exactly what God is doing This is the third conversation in our four-week series, “God Is Still Speaking: Listening in a Noisy World,” exploring what the voice of God might sound and look like in our lives today. Next week, we'll turn to Jeremiah 33:1-3 and “A Word in the Darkness.” Whether you're exploring progressive Christianity, deconstructing your faith, studying the Bible, pursuing justice, wrestling with theology, or simply asking honest questions about Scripture, we hope you'll join the conversation. Reflection Questions Can arguing with God be an act of faith? If so, have you ever? What do we do with God’s silence? Do you love God or do you love the blessings of God?  Continue the Conversation Connect with our faith community in person or online as you reflect on the themes of this episode: Convergence discussion group (Sundays at 12 PM): https://www.fumcsd.org/events Join our Patreon community Timestamps 00:00   What do we do when God is silent? 00:53   Habakkuk: a prophet wrestling with silence and suffering 01:18   “How long, O Lord?” — Habakkuk's lament 02:32   Who was Habakkuk? 05:19   When God's answer doesn't make things better 07:41   Can we question or disagree with God? 09:30   Challenging our certainty about what is “righteous” 13:20   Staying in relationship with God without having answers 16:42   Our narrow view of what is righteous 20:40   Finding faith in the middle of uncertainty 24:16   Reflection questions: God's silence, faith, and blessings

    What Do We Do When God Is Silent? | Habakkuk, Injustice & Waiting for Answers | Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast S4E3 (Audio)
  2. Sep 27

    What Happens When God Interrupts Us? | Isaiah 6 & Encountering God’s Calling | Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast S4E2 (Audio)

    What happens when God interrupts us in the middle of uncertainty, fear, and doubt? In Isaiah 6, the prophet Isaiah encounters God in a dramatic and terrifying vision—and responds, “Here I am. Send me.” In this episode of Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast, Rev. Hannah and Rev. Brittany explore what Isaiah’s calling might teach us about hearing God, encountering God, recognizing our shortcomings, receiving grace, and responding when we sense a call to act. Isaiah’s encounter with God doesn't happen in a peaceful or predictable moment. His calling comes at a time of political uncertainty and fear, and his response begins with an honest acknowledgment of his own shortcomings. That honesty becomes pivotal in his encounter with God’s grace and his ability to respond to God’s call. What might Isaiah’s story have to say to us today? What if we have become so accustomed to the routines of faith that we no longer expect to encounter God in unexpected ways? And what if the things we see as our shortcomings, mistakes, or “unclean lips” can become places where God meets us, transforms us, and calls us forward? As the female pastors reflect on Isaiah’s calling, they consider what it means to listen for God in the midst of uncertainty, to bring our whole selves into sacred spaces, and to move beyond shame toward grace and action. In this conversation, they explore: Why Isaiah's encounter with God is so dramatic—and even terrifying What Isaiah's “unclean lips” reveal about shame, humility, and human shortcomings Why confession can open us to experiencing God's grace Whether we really expect to encounter God when we enter a familiar worship space How we can become so comfortable with religious routines that we stop listening for God Why God's blessings are meant to extend beyond the walls of the church How our mistakes and shortcomings can become part of the work God calls us to do What it means to respond to God's call before we know exactly where it will lead This is the second conversation in our four-week series, “God Is Still Speaking: Listening in a Noisy World,” exploring what the voice of God might sound and look like in our lives today. Next week, we'll turn to Habakkuk and explore “The Long Silence” Whether you're exploring progressive Christianity, deconstructing your faith, studying the Bible, pursuing justice, wrestling with theology, or simply asking honest questions about Scripture, we hope you'll join the conversation. Reflection Questions What keeps us from listening with humility? How can we acknowledge our own shortcomings while navigating disappointment in the actions of others? What helps you stay grounded when the present reality doesn’t give you much hope? Continue the Conversation Connect with our faith community in person or online as you reflect on the themes of this episode: Convergence discussion group (Sundays at 12 PM) Join our Patreon community Timestamps 00:00   When God Interrupts Us 00:20   Isaiah’s Dramatic Encounter With God 05:11   When Encountering God Is Beautiful—and Terrifying 07:23   What Isaiah’s Humility Teaches Us 10:23   Confession, Shame & Receiving God’s Grace 12:44   Do We Expect to Encounter God?    14:45   God Doesn’t Bless Us Just for Ourselves 16:49   Is God Bigger Than the Church? 18:54   “Whom Shall I Send?” → “Here I Am. Send Me.” 22:56   Can Our Shortcomings Become Gifts? 25:23   Reflection Questions

    What Happens When God Interrupts Us? | Isaiah 6 & Encountering God’s Calling | Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast S4E2 (Audio)
  3. Sep 20

    Are We Missing God’s Whispers? | Samuel & Hearing God | Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast S4E1 (Audio)

    In a noisy world, it can be hard to hear anything—let alone a whisper from God. So how do we know when God is speaking? And what gets in the way of our ability to listen? Kicking off Season 4 of Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast and our four-week series “God Is Still Speaking: Listening in a Noisy World,” Revs. Trudy and Brittany explore the story of Samuel’s call in 1 Samuel 3:1-10—and what this ancient story might have to say to us today. Samuel hears a voice calling his name but doesn’t recognize it as God. Eli, exhausted and caught between his responsibilities, his family and his faith, initially doesn’t recognize it either. Together, the female pastors of First UMC of San Diego explore what it means to listen for God when we’re overwhelmed, uncertain or simply too tired to hear. In this conversation, they explore: Why it can be so difficult to hear God How exhaustion, anxiety and the competing voices around us can drown out God’s voice What God’s voice might actually sound or feel like—and how we might recognize it The tension between what God wants, what we want and what others want from us What Samuel and Eli can teach us about healthy leadership, mentorship, and making space for something new Why endings and periods of uncertainty can be part of making room for what comes next The story of Samuel reminds us that God’s voice may not always come as a dramatic revelation. Sometimes it is more like a whisper—a persistent feeling, question, conviction or invitation that we can't quite let go of. This is the first conversation in our four-week series, “God Is Still Speaking: Listening in a Noisy World,” exploring what the voice of God might sound and look like in our lives today. Next week, we'll turn to Isaiah 6:1-8 and “A Voice in the Temple.” Whether you're exploring progressive Christianity, deconstructing your faith, studying the Bible, pursuing justice, wrestling with theology, or simply asking honest questions about Scripture, we hope you'll join the conversation. Reflection Questions How do you understand God’s silence and God’s voice? What voices are competing for your attention right now, and which ones have you allowed to carry the most weight?  When have you experienced an unexpected interruption that, in hindsight, may have been an invitation to something new? Continue the Conversation Connect with our faith community in person or online as you reflect on the themes of this episode: Convergence discussion group (Sundays at 12 PM) Join our Patreon community Timestamps 00:00   Are we missing God’s whispers? 01:29   Samuel hears a voice in the night 04:11   Why is God’s voice so hard to hear? 06:38   When the demands of life drown out God 09:50   Are we simply too exhausted to listen? 12:23   What healthy leadership looks like 16:54   What does it mean for God to speak to us? 17:38   What does God’s voice sound and feel like? 20:45   Hearing God amid anxiety, corruption and social turmoil 22:21   “The lamp is still burning” 25:51   Reflection questions

    Are We Missing God’s Whispers? | Samuel & Hearing God | Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast S4E1 (Audio)
  4. Sep 13

    What We Really Mean When We Talk About Faith: What’s It Good For? | David & Goliath | Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast S3E51 (Audio)

    What does the story of David and Goliath really teach us about faith? Is faith simply believing that God will help us defeat our “Goliaths”—or is something deeper happening when we face fear, uncertainty, and circumstances beyond our control? In this episode of Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast, Revs. Trudy and Hannah explore 1 Samuel 17 and the story of David and Goliath through the lens of faith, Scripture, progressive Christianity, and the challenges of our world today. David and Goliath may be one of the most familiar stories in the Bible, but it is much more complicated than a simple underdog story. Beneath the familiar tale are questions about political change, power, technology, fear, biblical storytelling, and the evolving relationship between God and the people of Israel. The female pastors of First United Methodist Church of San Diego ask what this ancient story can teach us about Christian faith in a changing world – especially when the “Goliaths” in front of us seem overwhelming. In this conversation, they explore: Why David and Goliath is more than a children’s Sunday School story How storytelling shapes our faith and our understanding of Scripture The political, social, historical, and technological changes reflected in 1 Samuel How God works through imperfect, complicated people The difference between faith and naïve optimism What happens when our “armor”—technology, power, status, or certainty—fails us How faith can help us face fear without becoming paralyzed by it What it means to “see what you can’t see” and trust in God’s presence Perhaps the biggest question is this: Would David’s faith still have mattered if he had lost? This episode is the final conversation in our five-week series, “What We Really Mean When We Talk About…”, exploring complicated theological concepts and what they mean for our lives today. Previous episodes explored grace, forgiveness, love, and peace. Whether you're exploring progressive Christianity, deconstructing your faith, studying the Bible, pursuing justice, wrestling with theology, or simply asking honest questions about Scripture, we hope you'll join the conversation.  Reflection Questions What does this story tell you about God? What are the ‘Goliaths’ in our world that convince us that they are the only reality that matters? How do you weaken the power of God in the face of difficult circumstances? Continue the Conversation Connect with our faith community in person or online as you reflect on the themes of this episode: Convergence discussion group (Sundays at 12 PM) Join our Patreon community  Time Stamps 00:00   What does David and Goliath have to do with faith? 02:53   David and Goliath: More than a children’s story 04:27   The historical and political world of 1 Samuel 07:40   Why this story is much more complicated than it seems 11:07   Was the David and Goliath story added later? 16:04   David faces Goliath: The battle begins 18:30   Faith, fear, armor, and the power of God 21:33   Would David’s faith matter if he had lost? 25:26   What faith really means: Seeing what we can’t see 27:26   Reflection questions for your own faith

    What We Really Mean When We Talk About Faith: What’s It Good For? | David & Goliath | Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast S3E51 (Audio)
  5. Sep 6

    What We Really Mean When We Talk About Peace: Can We Find It in the Chaos? Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast S3E50 (Audio)

    What if peace isn’t avoiding conflict but instead facing it without losing ourselves in the process? In this episode of Perspectives, Rev. Drs. Hannah and Brittany explore what we really mean when we talk about peace through the story of Daniel—who continues to pray even when doing so puts his life at risk. Daniel doesn’t find peace by escaping a chaotic world. He finds a way to remain grounded in his faith, his values, and his sense of self while living amid political pressure, injustice, and uncertainty. So, what does Daniel have to teach us about finding peace when the world around us feels anything but peaceful? Together, the female pastors of First United Methodist Church of San Diego explore: Why peace isn't the same thing as serenity, comfort, or the absence of conflict How faith can help us stay grounded when circumstances are chaotic The difference between peaceful resistance and passive compliance What it means to hold onto your identity and integrity in an unjust world How mindfulness and prayer can help us remain present rather than consumed by fear Why “keeping the peace” can sometimes protect injustice How we can cultivate inner quiet without withdrawing from the world What it means to find moments of joy and peace in the midst of heartbreak and struggle Reflection Questions When does “keeping the peace” actually protect injustice?  What is the difference between peaceful resistance and passive compliance?  Can peace include conflict?  This episode is part of our five-week series, “What We Really Mean When We Talk About…”, exploring complicated theological concepts and what they mean for our lives today. Next week, we'll explore what we really mean when we talk about faith. Whether you're deconstructing your faith, exploring progressive Christianity, pursuing justice, or simply asking honest questions about Scripture, we hope you'll join the conversation. Continue the conversation: Convergence discussion group (Sundays at 12 PM) Join our Patreon community Time Stamps 00:00   What if Peace Isn't the Absence of Conflict? 01:36   Daniel Chooses Faith in the Face of Danger 04:45   What Jealousy Can Teach Us About Knowing Who We Are 06:26   Faith, Integrity, and Living Under Political Power 07:20   Peace Doesn't Require a Perfect Situation 08:14   From a Meditation Retreat to the “Concrete Jungle” 11:15   Finding Joy and Peace in the Midst of Heartbreak 12:36   Is Daniel Practicing Mindfulness? 13:27   Peace Doesn’t Mean Giving Up the Fight 20:25   Peace Isn't Comfort—It Can Exist in Conflict

    What We Really Mean When We Talk About Peace: Can We Find It in the Chaos? Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast S3E50 (Audio)
  6. Aug 30

    What We Really Mean When We Talk About Love: What Does It Look Like? Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast S3E49 (Audio)

    What does love actually look like when it’s difficult, uncomfortable, or undeserved? In this episode of Perspectives, Revs. Trudy and Brittany explore what we really mean when we talk about love through the story of Jesus washing his disciples’ feet in John 13:3–9. And there's a particularly difficult question at the heart of the story: Why would Jesus wash Judas’s feet—even knowing Judas would betray him?  Together, the female pastors of First United Methodist Church of San Diego discuss: How Jesus turned an ordinary act of hospitality into something radical Why love can feel uncomfortable and vulnerable The challenge of both giving and receiving love Why unconditional love is so difficult for us What it means to love someone who may hurt or betray us The difference between love, grace, and forgiveness How vulnerability and community shape the way we experience love What it means to follow Jesus on a journey to a more open and expansive heart Reflection Questions When has love called you to do something that seemed ridiculous or unreasonable to others? What makes it difficult/uncomfortable for you to let others love and care for you?  Who has shown you a kind of love that changed the way you understand love? Continue the conversation: This episode is part of our five-week series exploring “What We Really Mean When We Talk About…” – giving us the opportunity to reflect upon and explore tricky theological concepts. Next week, we'll explore what we really mean when we talk about peace. Whether you're deconstructing your faith, exploring progressive Christianity, pursuing justice, or simply asking honest questions about Scripture, we hope you'll join the conversation. Convergence discussion group (Sundays at 12 PM) Join our Patreon community Time Stamps 00:00   Love Is More Than What You Say 01:47   Why Would Jesus Wash His Disciples’ Feet? 04:00   Why Love Can Be Radical, Ridiculous & Uncomfortable 06:15   Why Receiving Love Can Be So Difficult 08:32   Love Requires Vulnerability 09:41   Why Did Jesus Wash Judas’s Feet? 12:25   Why Is Unconditional Love So Hard? 13:53   Love, Grace & Forgiveness: What’s the Difference? 20:44   Love Isn’t a One-Way Street 22:54   Are You Better at Giving or Receiving Love?

    What We Really Mean When We Talk About Love: What Does It Look Like? Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast S3E49 (Audio)
  7. Aug 23

    What We Really Mean When We Talk About Forgiveness: Do We Also Have to Forget? Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast (S3E48) (Audio)

    People might throw you away, but God will never throw you away—and God will never throw away the people who have hurt you. This is what makes forgiveness both complicated and possible. So, what does forgiveness actually mean? Does it require us to forget? To reconcile? To restore a relationship? And what does God ask of us when someone has hurt us? In this episode of Perspectives, Rev. Trudy and Rev. Dr. Brittany explore forgiveness through the story of Joseph and his brothers in Genesis 45. Joseph's brothers sold him into slavery, yet years later Joseph chooses to welcome them, provide for them, and seek reconciliation. But does Joseph's story mean that forgiveness is always simple—or that forgiveness always means restoring a relationship? Together, they explore: What forgiveness means in Christianity—and why it is more complicated than we sometimes make it Why forgiveness can be especially difficult when the people who hurt us are family How trauma and memory shape the process of forgiveness The difference between forgiveness, reconciliation, and forgetting Whether forgiveness requires us to remain in relationship with someone who has hurt us How God's grace and providence might help us imagine forgiveness in a complicated world Reflection Questions How does it feel for you to be forgiven? How does it feel when you forgive others? What does it take to experience forgiveness? How can we imagine God’s activity in a flawed world? Continue the Conversation This episode is part of our five-week series exploring “what we really mean when we talk about…” theological concepts. Next week, we'll explore what we really mean when we talk about love. Whether you're deconstructing your faith, exploring progressive Christianity, pursuing justice, or simply asking honest questions about Scripture, we hope you'll join the conversation: Convergence discussion group (Sundays at 12 PM) Join our Patreon community Timestamps: 00:00   What makes forgiveness complicated—and possible 00:26   The story of Joseph and his brothers 02:14   Joseph reveals himself: Genesis 45 06:22   Why forgiveness is more complicated than we think 07:36   Family, trauma, and forgiveness 12:29   Does forgiveness require forgetting? 14:17   God's providence and finding meaning 20:27   Forgiveness — a one-time decision or a lifelong process? 23:48   Forgiveness doesn't always mean reconciliation 27:21   Why we shouldn't simplify forgiveness 28:48   Reflection questions

    What We Really Mean When We Talk About Forgiveness: Do We Also Have to Forget? Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast (S3E48) (Audio)
  8. Aug 16

    What We Really Mean When We Talk About Grace: What Gets in the Way? Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast (S3E47) (Audio)

    Grace isn’t just a name or a before-dinner prayer. So, what is grace? What does the Bible say about grace? And why can it be so difficult to offer grace to others? In this episode of Perspectives, Rev. Trudy and Rev. Hannah explore grace through the story of Jonah, the reluctant prophet who resisted God’s call to extend grace to the people of Nineveh. Whether you're exploring progressive Christianity, wrestling with questions about Scripture and faith, or studying the Book of Jonah, this conversation invites you to consider what grace means to you today. Beginning with Jonah 1:1-3, this episode helps you discover: What is grace, and what does it look like in everyday life? Why does Jonah resist offering grace to Nineveh? What does the historical context of Jonah tell us about grace? Can God's grace reach people we would rather exclude? Why do we sometimes want to decide who deserves God's grace? What gets in the way of accepting and offering grace? Reflection Questions How have you experienced God’s persistent grace? Who do you have a difficult time offering grace to? Have you seen God offer grace to someone you couldn’t? Continue the Conversation This is the first episode in a 5-week conversation series exploring “what we really mean when we talk about…” theological concepts. Join us next week as we tackle the concept of forgiveness. In the meantime, we invite you to continue this conversation. Whether you're deconstructing your faith, exploring progressive Christianity, pursuing justice, or simply asking honest questions about Scripture, we hope you’ll join us: Convergence discussion group (Sundays at 12 PM): https://www.fumcsd.org/events Join our Patreon community Timestamps 00:00   What We Really Mean When We Talk About Grace 01:54   Jonah, Nineveh & the Problem of Grace 03:39   The Historical Context of Jonah 05:23   Is the Story of Jonah Actually a Joke? 09:19   God's Grace Has a Universal Reach 13:04   Why We Struggle to Offer Grace to Our Enemies 15:31   Can We Accept a God Whose Grace Reaches Those We Exclude? 17:27   God Is the Subject of Grace 18:32   What Is Grace? An Ocean Metaphor 23:41   Questions for Reflection: Experiencing & Offering Grace

    What We Really Mean When We Talk About Grace: What Gets in the Way? Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast (S3E47) (Audio)

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The women clergy of First United Methodist Church of San Diego tackle important questions about scripture, theology, and life – reinventing faith through a fresh new perspective. First Church of San Diego is a progressive Christian community where all are welcome to explore their spirituality and seek God's love. Find us online at https://www.fumcsd.org. Or follow us on: • YouTube (@FirstChurchSanDiego): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCH03nH-ydfR7WVxv5-L9V5Q • Facebook (@fumcsd): https://www.facebook.com/fumcsd • Instagram (@firstchurchsd): https://www.instagram.com/firstchurchsd/ • Patreon (@fumcsd): https://www.patreon.com/fumcsd