The Milk Train

Catherine Burgis and Danni Skerritt

Musicians Dirty Freud (Danni Skerritt) and Test Card Girl (Catherine Burgis) chronicle the highs and lows of trying to balance parenthood with freelance creative careers. With the help of guests from across the creative industries, they ask whether it is really possible to do what you love, and still be a semi-acceptable parent/partner/human. Honest, irreverent chats in the pursuit of a life less ordinary.

Episodes

  1. 02/23/2024

    The Milk Train Episode 4: Jamie Lawson

    It's not every day that a chart-topping, Ivor Novello award-winning artist stands casually chatting at the back of your gig in a tiny Manchester venue, kindly asking you about your music and not mentioning anything about themselves. But such was the scenario for Caffs (flying solo this week as Danni faces down a school strike-based childcare emergency) when none other than singer-songwriter Jamie Lawson came down to support friend and songwriting buddy Ed Cosens (Reverend and the Makers) at a gig Caffs was supporting as Test Card Girl. Jamie is a fantastically inspiring example of how things have drastically changed for musicians over the last 10-15 years, and how to survive in the industry, however successful a record has been, you have to adapt to new audiences and new ways of consuming music all the time to survive. Jamie released back-to-back records, Happy Accidents (2017) and The Years In Between (2019) preceded by Jamie Lawson (2015), his self-titled third album, which entered the UK charts at Number One and gave the world Wasn’t Expecting That. That breakout classic scooped the then-largely-unknown artist the 2016 Ivor Novello for Best Song Musically and Lyrically. And now, finally, he's back with a glorious new album Little Weaknesses. It’s 14 tracks of concise, emotive, painterly beauty. Only one song crests the four-minute mark, four of them say what they need to say in less than three minutes, six are blessed with strings arranged by multi-genre violinist Isabella Baker, and all of them were crafted in Lawson’s music room in his family residence in Manchester and recorded by producer-collaborator Tim Ross at his home studio in Twickenham. But, say it again: it’s four years since The Years In Between, which was his third record for Sheeran's Gingerbread Man imprint. What took him so long?  “Yeah, that's a good point!” Lawson answers with a rueful laugh. “In fairness, it wasn't four years ago in normal years! But I would stick to that statement: I don't think it should take four years. The fact that it has taken me four years is another matter. Obviously, we had a pandemic where things couldn't happen. But the main thing for me, as is quite obvious across the record, is that we had a boy in 2020. Originally, I had intended to take six months off when he came along. And then the pandemic hit, and I had what felt like three years off.” We don't think Jamie should beat himself up - after all - this podcast is all about how we cope trying to hold down a creative career with children. Throw in a pandemic and you have a perfect storm! We've had Little Weaknesses on repeat and if you're someone who maybe had a gap in your creative output (or are currently in one - hello Caffs!) this is a fascinating and honest account of the highs and lows of a creative career and how to adapt and change. We recorded this episode a little while ago but Jamie is now on tour so catch him in your home town from April! https://linktr.ee/jamielawson We loved chatting to Jamie and we hope you enjoy our latest episode. As always, if you want to tell us more about your creative projects, how your coping with the family juggle or to suggest a guest get in touch!

  2. 01/31/2024

    The Milk Train Episode 2: Anna FC Smith

    This week Danni and Caffs welcome their first ever guest and what a spectacular one she turned out to be. Appearing alongside her fantastically patient toddler, Anna lets us into her world and quite frankly we didn't want to leave it. Anna FC Smith is a Wigan (UK) based multimedia artist. She studied Critical Fine Art Practice at the University of Brighton, graduating in 2007 and has exhibited internationally. Smith explores social history, folk culture and ritual through historical and anthropological research. Creating sculpture, installation, performance, and group actions her works emerge as symbolic collages spanning eras, and forms of material culture. Touching on politics and performative space, she examines power and community, juxtaposing the ‘low culture’ and irreverence of communal tradition with the pageantry and ceremony of governance. Seeking links contemporary society has to its predecessors, she sees history and ritual as means to interpret the present. Enjoy and check out Anna's upcoming projects: Anna has a collaborative installation made with Helen Mather as part of Creating Place II at Turnpike Gallery, Leigh on until 30th March. @theturnpikegallery She is part of the artist led exhibition Seeing Things at The Edge, Wigan 20th Feb - 29th Feb @seeing_things_   She runs TERM art classes with fellow artist Klaire Doyle, they deliver life drawing and art history classes online, to get involved visit @artdiscussterm https://term.ticketlight.co.uk/

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Musicians Dirty Freud (Danni Skerritt) and Test Card Girl (Catherine Burgis) chronicle the highs and lows of trying to balance parenthood with freelance creative careers. With the help of guests from across the creative industries, they ask whether it is really possible to do what you love, and still be a semi-acceptable parent/partner/human. Honest, irreverent chats in the pursuit of a life less ordinary.