The Real Biz Life Chronicles

Tracy Fryer

Unedited stories of Business, Branding and Life. Banish boring as Tracy Fryer and her guests take a ride on the rollercoaster of being a business owner - or of simply being human! Get ready to learn exactly what it takes to grow with distinction and show mediocrity the middle finger. In this podcast Tracy interview’s authentic business owners, who share their story of building a successful business, their strategies behind their success and leading the way.  RAW. Honest. Unedited. 

  1. 5d ago

    #154 Marion Burchell on Leadership, ego and AI: Three forces colliding in every business right now.

    Send us Fan Mail What if the way you have led for the past twenty years is about to stop working? I sat down with Marion Burchell, the Managing Director of Azolla, a Perth based management consulting firm that advises governments and organisations on operational excellence, change, leadership and systems. Marion spent twenty years in the public sector and a stint with one of the big four before backing herself and starting Azolla during COVID, the same month I started Design Studio Perth. What I love about Marion is that Azolla runs almost entirely on word of mouth. She says they have not needed to market in years, and once you hear how she thinks, you understand why. In this conversation, we talk about the thing every business owner is quietly wrestling with right now: the impact of AI on how we work and how we lead. Marion explains why this moment is so confronting for leaders, why so many organisations are preaching wellbeing while creating the exact conditions for burnout, and why the pause, actually stopping to breathe and think, might be the most valuable leadership skill of all. We also get into the difference between leadership and management, how to tell whether you are leading from ego or capability, and why saying no to the wrong clients protects everything you have built. What struck me most was Marion's view that for all our strategies and plans and processes, what we are really missing is the human factor. She describes real leadership as the deep work on yourself, the honest and awkward conversations, and the courage to hold on to your humanity in a world that keeps trying to sterilise it. It reframed how I think about my own role as my business grows. If you have ever felt the ground shifting under the way you lead, or wondered whether the next chapter of your business needs a different version of you, this is the conversation to sit with. Mentioned in This Episode: 6:11  Why the impact of AI is now the biggest conversation in every industry 10:17  The confronting question AI is forcing every leader to ask about their career 14:36  How organisations preach wellbeing while quietly fuelling burnout 17:54  The great pause, and why stopping to breathe might be your most valuable leadership skill 35:00  The two questions that reveal your real value as a business owner 48:07  Why saying no to the wrong clients protects your brand 54:37  Ego or capability: which leadership problem can actually be fixed 1:12:04  Why leadership and management are not the same thing, and what real leadership takes About Marion Burchell: Marion Burchell is the Managing Director of Azolla, a management consulting firm based in Perth that works with governments and organisations on operational excellence, change, leadership and systems. She has appeared on ABC, Fox, NBC, CBS and Telemundo, has authored or co-authored more than twenty publications, and her work on public participation in public policy development has been cited as best practice and adopted by international governments. Marion holds degrees in science and sociology and a certificate in public leadership from the Harvard Kennedy School of Government, and she sits on the faculty of the AGSM at UNSW Business School. Connect with Marion: theazollaeffect.com  |  marionburchell.com  |  LinkedIn  |  Email This episode is proudly sponsored by Cuppa Cartel. To celebrate, our listeners and the Cuppa Familia can enjoy a special rate on all coffee beans using code TRBLC at checkout. Discover your brand's potential with a free Brand Discovery session at designstudioperth.com.au/brand-discovery About Tracy: Tracy Fryer is a branding powerhouse, speaker, and founder of Design Studio Perth and Trace Designs Bespoke. She’s dedicated to helping business owners and creatives build brands that truly reflect their values, passions, and long-term vision. As the host of The Real Biz Life Chronicles, Tracy brings raw, insightful conversations that push entrepreneurs to embrace bold growth, develop strategic branding, and lead with unapologetic confidence. Her approach is refreshingly real-blending deep expertise with a passion for authenticity, creative excellence, and business success. Connect with Tracy Fryer: LinkedIn | Instagram | TikTok | Website Follow The Real Biz Life Chronicles: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | Spotify | YouTube  Email us at info@therealbizlifchronicles.com

    #154 Marion Burchell on Leadership, ego and AI: Three forces colliding in every business right now.
  2. Aug 7

    #153 The 1% Better Method: Small Steps That Actually Build Discipline - Kerrin Watson-Smith

    Send us Fan Mail The boring middle is where most goals quietly die, long after the excitement has gone. 1% Better is a first for the show. It is a four-part series across the year. Before each episode my running coach and I run the same 5k together on camera, then walk straight into the studio and hit record. The idea is to track my 5k getting faster and to show the part of a goal that usually gets edited out. Because the discipline it takes to train is the same discipline it takes to build a business. There is no one I would rather do this with than Kerrin Watson-Smith, founder of Chi-Me, a mental fitness framework that helps people train their mind the way they train their body. In 2010 she entered a full Ironman on three months of training, having never ridden in cleats or run a marathon, and finished first time out. She has also run the Comrades Marathon (86.9km) three times. We talk about why we train the body but expect the mind to just cope, why small steps beat grand resolutions, why stopping can be more disciplined than pushing through, the three word mantra that carried her through her first Ironman, and the year of training she lost to a torn calf two weeks out. If you are somewhere in the boring middle right now, start here. Mentioned in This Episode: 0:20 Why people quit on the boring middle, not the big goal 2:03 Why the discipline to train is the discipline to build a business 2:38 How a dog on a first run made Kerrin a coach and friend 14:03 Training the mind with the same intention as the body 16:01 When stopping beats pushing through 20:54 Small daily steps over grand resolutions 38:58 The three word mantra from her first Ironman 52:47 What a torn calf taught her about disappointment 59:12 Why the limits you place on yourself are hardest to beat About Kerrin: Kerrin Watson-Smith is the founder of Chi-Me, a mental fitness framework built around self-esteem, clarity of goals, social connection and wellness. A three time Comrades runner and Ironman finisher, she believes the mind should be trained with the same intention as the body. She lives, coaches and runs in Perth. Connect with Kerrin: Instagram @thatgirlwhoruns | Instagram @chi_me_australia | Facebook | inspire@chi-me.co.za This episode's sponsors: • Cuppa Cartel, the coffee fuelling our conversations. Enjoy a special rate on all coffee beans with code TRBLC at checkout.  • MyGene, personalised genetic testing and healthspan programs. Use code REALBIZLIFE26 at checkout to get the Inform Me Plus program for the price of Inform Me, a free upgrade worth $403.    • Chi-Me, Kerrin's mental fitness framework. • Design Studio Perth, the branding studio behind the show. • Beam Theory, dentist designed, enamel safe teeth whitening. • Project Rhino KZN, protecting rhino populations across KwaZulu-Natal.  Discover your brand's potential with a free Brand Discovery session at designstudioperth.com.au/brand-discovery About Tracy: Tracy Fryer is a branding powerhouse, speaker, and founder of Design Studio Perth and Trace Designs Bespoke. She’s dedicated to helping business owners and creatives build brands that truly reflect their values, passions, and long-term vision. As the host of The Real Biz Life Chronicles, Tracy brings raw, insightful conversations that push entrepreneurs to embrace bold growth, develop strategic branding, and lead with unapologetic confidence. Her approach is refreshingly real-blending deep expertise with a passion for authenticity, creative excellence, and business success. Connect with Tracy Fryer: LinkedIn | Instagram | TikTok | Website Follow The Real Biz Life Chronicles: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | Spotify | YouTube  Email us at info@therealbizlifchronicles.com

    #153 The 1% Better Method: Small Steps That Actually Build Discipline - Kerrin Watson-Smith
  3. Jul 31

    #152 We Shouldn't Tell You This! B2B Social Media Done Correctly - Sian Lindeque

    Send us Fan Mail What is your social media saying about your business before you ever get the chance to speak? I sat down with Sian Lindeque, the social media manager behind so much of what happens at Design Studio Perth, for a conversation I have wanted to record for a while. Sian runs our clients' social media, and after more than two years working alongside her, I can tell you her real job goes far beyond posting and captions. At its core, it is about trust. Her work is taking a business owner who is brilliant at what they do but invisible to the people who need to see them most, and making them seen. In this episode she is refreshingly honest about how much has shifted, especially now that AI has made it so easy to show up as a generic, forgettable brand. In this conversation, we unpack why so many owners freeze before they even begin, what someone actually decides in the first few seconds of finding your business online, and why posting every day without a strategy quietly works against you. Sian explains the difference between a business that just posts and one that genuinely builds trust, the metrics that matter far more than likes and followers, and how long it really takes before social media starts working. We also get into where all of this is heading as AI reshapes the feed. What struck me most was Sian's take on visibility as a cost. If you are not showing up online, she says, it is a bit like standing in your garden telling people you have a business. Your neighbours might hear you, but the people who actually need you never will. It reframed the whole thing for me. If you have ever felt invisible to the people who need you, or you know your social media could be doing far more than it is, this is the episode I would want you to hear now. Mentioned in This Episode: 2:00 How social media has shifted in the age of AI, and the generic brand trap 11:13 The real reason business owners do not show up 14:33 The garden analogy that reframes what being invisible online costs you 15:32 What someone decides about your business in the first few seconds 27:50 The number of times a person needs to see you before they reach out 39:03 The vanity metrics owners obsess over, and the data that actually matters 44:09 Where social media is heading in the next five years About Sian Lindeque: Sian Lindeque is the social media manager at Design Studio Perth, where she runs client accounts and social media management. She holds degrees in public relations and international relations, and found her way into social media in her final year of university running the personal pages of the businesswomen behind a well-known reality series. Outspoken, calm and dependable, she is known for saying the true thing in the room when everyone else stays quiet. Connect with Design Studio Perth: Website | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn | YouTube This episode is proudly sponsored by Cuppa Cartel. To celebrate, our listeners and the Cuppa Familia can enjoy a special rate on all coffee beans using code TRBLC at checkout. Discover your brand's potential with a free Brand Discovery session at designstudioperth.com.au/brand-discovery About Tracy: Tracy Fryer is a branding powerhouse, speaker, and founder of Design Studio Perth and Trace Designs Bespoke. She’s dedicated to helping business owners and creatives build brands that truly reflect their values, passions, and long-term vision. As the host of The Real Biz Life Chronicles, Tracy brings raw, insightful conversations that push entrepreneurs to embrace bold growth, develop strategic branding, and lead with unapologetic confidence. Her approach is refreshingly real-blending deep expertise with a passion for authenticity, creative excellence, and business success. Connect with Tracy Fryer: LinkedIn | Instagram | TikTok | Website Follow The Real Biz Life Chronicles: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | Spotify | YouTube  Email us at info@therealbizlifchronicles.com

    #152 We Shouldn't Tell You This! B2B Social Media Done Correctly - Sian Lindeque
  4. Jul 24

    #151 The 1 Client You Must Fire To Grow - Tristan Peirce

    Send us Fan Mail  What if the smartest growth move you make this year is the work you decide not to take on? Tristan Peirce has spent more than twenty years designing gardens across Perth, and he does not build a single one of them. Landscapers and pool builders do that, and that is exactly how he wants it. Tristan is the founder and principal of Tristan Peirce Landscape Architects. After completing his Bachelor of Landscape Architecture at UWA and spending eleven years at Tim Davies Landscaping as Principal Landscape Architect, he started his own studio in 2018 with a single belief: great outcomes come from collaboration, strong technical knowledge, and a shared commitment to design excellence. What I loved about this conversation is how honestly Tristan talks about the business side that so many creatives avoid. He describes the first year of his business in one word, and it is not the word you would put on a brochure. From there we get into why he made the deliberate choice to stay in his lane as a designer, how charging for his time quietly attracted the right clients, and why he is comfortable walking away from a project when the fit is wrong. In this conversation, we remove the shame attached to the discussions of budgets with clients, the tell-tale signs of client relationships that simply won’t work, the 80 percent rule he uses to stop himself agonising over things that do not need to be perfect, and what it really takes in those first three years on your own. We also talk about knowing your worth, growing a team on personality before skill, and why his Instagram became one of his most valuable business assets. There is a sense of calm that Tristan carries with him, and the quiet confidence that doing fewer things brilliantly beats doing everything adequately. He is blunt, happy to tell a client what they do not want to hear when the design calls for it, and clear that a business never stays still. As he puts it, it is like the shark that stops swimming. You have to keep moving to stay relevant. If you have ever felt the pull to say yes to everything, undercharge to keep the peace, or hold onto a client you know is the wrong fit, hit that play button and take a note out of Tristan Peirce’s playbook. Mentioned in This Episode: 9:28  The one-word answer to what year one really felt like 13:34  The conscious decision that protects the quality of every project 33:54  The kind of client who quietly brings you all the others 36:05  The blunt truth about fit that most owners will not say out loud 42:47  The moment the free consultations had to stop 49:07  What still surprises Tristan about his own business 52:37  The two words Tristan keeps coming back to 55:03  The 80 percent rule for anyone agonising over getting it perfect About Tristan Peirce: Tristan Peirce is the founder and principal of Tristan Peirce Landscape Architects, a dedicated residential landscape architecture practice in Perth. He completed his Bachelor of Landscape Architecture at the University of Western Australia in 2002, worked at Blackwell and Associates, then spent eleven years at Tim Davies Landscaping where he became Principal Landscape Architect on a run of award-winning projects. He founded his own studio in 2018. Today TPLA designs architecture-led pools, alfrescos, outdoor landscapes, sustainable planting and garden lighting, supported by a close-knit team. Connect with Tristan Peirce:  Website | LinkedIn | Instagram This episode is proudly sponsored by Cuppa Cartel. To celebrate, our listeners and the Cuppa Familia can enjoy a special rate on all coffee beans using code TRBLC at checkout. Discover your brand's potential with a free Brand Discovery session at designstudioperth.com.au/brand-discovery  About Tracy: Tracy Fryer is a branding powerhouse, speaker, and founder of Design Studio Perth and Trace Designs Bespoke. She’s dedicated to helping business owners and creatives build brands that truly reflect their values, passions, and long-term vision. As the host of The Real Biz Life Chronicles, Tracy brings raw, insightful conversations that push entrepreneurs to embrace bold growth, develop strategic branding, and lead with unapologetic confidence. Her approach is refreshingly real-blending deep expertise with a passion for authenticity, creative excellence, and business success. Connect with Tracy Fryer: LinkedIn | Instagram | TikTok | Website Follow The Real Biz Life Chronicles: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | Spotify | YouTube  Email us at info@therealbizlifchronicles.com

    #151 The 1 Client You Must Fire To Grow - Tristan Peirce
  5. Jul 17

    #150 Confessions of A Business Owner

    Send us Fan Mail What would you confess if no one could ever trace it back to you? For 149 episodes, I sat across from someone and asked them to be honest with me. This time I asked them to be honest when no one was watching. We sent out one dark box. No name, no way to trace it back. Just a black screen, two questions, and a button labelled "submit anonymously." The two questions were simple. What are you pretending isn't true about your business or life right now? And what do you fear would happen if you stopped pretending? I thought we'd get a handful back, the polite kind of honest. What came back instead was 150 confessions, including my own, and they read like the thing you think about at 2am and have never said to a living soul. There is a reason confession has existed in almost every culture for thousands of years, and it isn't only spiritual. When you carry an unspoken truth, your nervous system carries it with you. In this episode I read these confessions aloud, one after another, and you will hear money kept quiet from the people closest to them, a calm that owners sell as the whole offer, the founder stories that turned out to be fiction, and the quiet loneliness of the chair nobody else sits in. What struck me most was how familiar they felt. I went in expecting confessions about cash flow and clients. So much of what came back was about identity, family, and the version of ourselves we perform to keep the whole thing standing. If you have ever held the mask in place a little too long, this is the episode I would want you to hear now.' Mentioned in This Episode: 1:37 Why confession is neurological, not just spiritual 3:42 The first confession, and the wife who still thinks he has it handled 6:02 The deposit cycle one owner has been walking for years 25:52 Winning by every measure and feeling nothing 44:10 The moment identity and business quietly become the same thing 1:19:11 The loneliness no one at the top is allowed to admit 1:39:48 Why the office became a hiding place from family 1:46:08 Hitting the target you would have killed for, and feeling nothing If any of these confessions sit close to home and you are struggling, please reach out to someone you trust or a professional support service. In Australia, Lifeline is available 24/7 on 13 11 14. The confession box is now open. Leave yours anonymously here: https://therealbizlifechronicles.com/confessions-of-a-business-owner/ This episode is proudly sponsored by Cuppa Cartel. To celebrate, our listeners and the Cuppa Familia can enjoy a special rate on all coffee beans using code TRBLC at checkout. Discover your brand's potential with a free Brand Discovery session at designstudioperth.com.au/brand-discovery About Tracy: Tracy Fryer is a branding powerhouse, speaker, and founder of Design Studio Perth and Trace Designs Bespoke. She’s dedicated to helping business owners and creatives build brands that truly reflect their values, passions, and long-term vision. As the host of The Real Biz Life Chronicles, Tracy brings raw, insightful conversations that push entrepreneurs to embrace bold growth, develop strategic branding, and lead with unapologetic confidence. Her approach is refreshingly real-blending deep expertise with a passion for authenticity, creative excellence, and business success. Connect with Tracy Fryer: LinkedIn | Instagram | TikTok | Website Follow The Real Biz Life Chronicles: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | Spotify | YouTube  Email us at info@therealbizlifchronicles.com

    #150 Confessions of A Business Owner
  6. Jul 10

    #149 How To Use AI In Your Business To Your Advantage - Paul Claessen

    Send us Fan Mail What if the riskiest thing you can do with AI is wait for it to settle down first? I sat down with Paul Claessen for another expert-led conversation. Paul opened by admitting something I did not expect from someone who lives and breathes this stuff. He thought AI was a threat to his own business and to many of his clients’ businesses, too. Where he landed by the end of our chat is the reason I wanted to share this episode. Paul is a business coach and a recurring guest on the show. His background is in software engineering, and he runs Ignite, built on three pillars he calls Connect, Velocity and Mastery, alongside his premium one-to-one coaching. I have worked with Paul for four and a half years now, and he has a way of telling me the hard truth I need to hear rather than the comfortable one I want. In this conversation, Paul tells us the lie that is costing business owners the most right now, the architect, engineer, plan, do framework that changes how you approach any AI task, and the story of the person who spent twelve months building something with AI before realising he had to start again from the ground up. Paul also names the thing almost nobody is talking about: how genuinely exhausting this work has become. We both laughed about the Claude hangover, mostly because we are both living it. What struck me most was where Paul took the conversation at the end. For all the talk about tools, models, and tasks going to zero, the thing he kept circling back to was people. How you serve them. How you look forward to a brighter future. That felt like the real point of the whole episode. If you have been quietly avoiding AI, or quietly drowning in it, hit play for clarity on how to move ahead. Mentioned in This Episode: 1:38 Paul admits he first saw AI as a threat to his business 7:56 The one-shot culture Paul is determined to destroy 14:34 The twelve-month build that had to be scrapped and rewritten 33:19 The architect, engineer, plan, do framework explained 1:03:49 The honest warning label, prepare to be fundamentally exhausted 1:11:04 Why the biggest risk in AI is ignoring it 1:13:39 The parts of a business Paul believes are going to zero 1:26:09 Why serving people matters more than the tool itself Tools and resources mentioned: Ignite | Claude | Canva | Plaud | Wispr Flow About Paul: Paul Claessen is a Perth-based business coach with a background in software engineering. He works with business owners on the bigger question of where their business is heading, helping them build freedom through the business rather than a more comfortable prison. He runs Ignite, his coaching program built on three pillars, Connect, Velocity and Mastery, alongside premium one-to-one coaching. A recurring guest on the show, Paul is known for telling owners the hard truth they need to hear rather than the comfortable one they want. Connect with Paul: Website | Ignite | Email | LinkedIn This episode is proudly sponsored by Cuppa Cartel. To celebrate, our listeners and the Cuppa Familia can enjoy a special rate on all coffee beans using code TRBLC at checkout. Discover your brand’s potential with a free Brand Discovery session at designstudioperth.com.au/brand-discovery About Tracy: Tracy Fryer is a branding powerhouse, speaker, and founder of Design Studio Perth and Trace Designs Bespoke. She’s dedicated to helping business owners and creatives build brands that truly reflect their values, passions, and long-term vision. As the host of The Real Biz Life Chronicles, Tracy brings raw, insightful conversations that push entrepreneurs to embrace bold growth, develop strategic branding, and lead with unapologetic confidence. Her approach is refreshingly real-blending deep expertise with a passion for authenticity, creative excellence, and business success. Connect with Tracy Fryer: LinkedIn | Instagram | TikTok | Website Follow The Real Biz Life Chronicles: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | Spotify | YouTube  Email us at info@therealbizlifchronicles.com

    #149 How To Use AI In Your Business To Your Advantage - Paul Claessen
  7. Jul 3

    #148 Sue Pember - Late ADHD Diagnosis: The Business Advantage

    Send us Fan Mail What if the one thing that made you a difficult employee is the same thing that made you a successful business owner? When I read Sue Pember’s introduction at the start of this episode, she got emotional, and once you hear her story, you’ll understand why. There is a version of Sue who spent decades believing she was a difficult employee. The diagnosis that arrived almost twenty years into her career reframed all of it. The thing Sue had quietly been good at the whole time, reading a room and thinking on her feet, turned out to be the engine behind everything she has built. Sue is the founder and managing director of AussieOS, the relocation and housing business she started in 2010, which has helped doctors, nurses, engineers and tradespeople from a dozen countries build a life in Australia. She was diagnosed with ADHD in 2017, and that diagnosis became a turning point in how she understands the way she works, leads and runs a business. In this conversation, we discuss the grief that arrived alongside the clarity the diagnosis brought, and the two job descriptions every owner needs. What struck me most was how honest Sue was about the cost of always being in motion. She talks about her son pointing at every passing taxi and saying mum, because that was how often he watched her leave. She talks about what an eighty-five year old version of herself would be furious at her for missing. For someone who has achieved as much as she has, there is a lot of reflection here about what all of it is actually for. If you have ever felt like the way your brain works is something you need to apologise for, this is the episode I would want you to hear first. Mentioned in This Episode: 04:22 The sprint then catatonic rhythm of working with ADHD, and why pushing through does not work 08:45 The supermarket moment Sue first found out she had ADHD, trolley half full, taking an online quiz 10:36 The grief that arrived with the diagnosis, and the dark hole most people do not expect 22:59 Why Sue says she is a business owner because she has ADHD 30:11 The delusion almost every owner starts with about time 31:46 The two job descriptions every owner needs, and the one they keep hiding from 45:00 The $27,000 question the relocation industry will not ask out loud 1:01:17 What eighty-five year old Sue would be furious at her for not doing About Sue: Sue Pember is the founder and managing director of AussieOS, a relocation and destination services business she established in 2010. For more than sixteen years she has helped people moving to Australia find rental housing, choose schools and settle into a new country, working with everyone from trades and skilled workers to senior executives, and with organisations including Ramsay Healthcare and Regis Aged Care. She is also a qualified business coach, mentor and advisor who works with a small group of owners, many of whom also have ADHD. Business News 40under40 Awards winner, WA Today Female Entrepreneur of the Year and EY Entrepreneur finalist, Sue began her career in stage management after graduating from WAAPA and worked at the ABC before industry cuts changed her path. She was diagnosed with ADHD in 2017, almost twenty years into her career. She lives in Perth with her husband Matt and their two children, Charlotte and Leo. Tools and resources mentioned: Life Wheel Exercise Example | Life Wheel LinkedIn Post Connect with Sue:  Website | LinkedIn This episode is proudly sponsored by Cuppa Cartel. To celebrate, our listeners and the Cuppa Familia can enjoy a special rate on all coffee beans using code TRBLC at checkout. Discover your brand’s potential with a free Brand Discovery session at designstudioperth.com.au/brand-discovery About Tracy: Tracy Fryer is a branding powerhouse, speaker, and founder of Design Studio Perth and Trace Designs Bespoke. She’s dedicated to helping business owners and creatives build brands that truly reflect their values, passions, and long-term vision. As the host of The Real Biz Life Chronicles, Tracy brings raw, insightful conversations that push entrepreneurs to embrace bold growth, develop strategic branding, and lead with unapologetic confidence. Her approach is refreshingly real-blending deep expertise with a passion for authenticity, creative excellence, and business success. Connect with Tracy Fryer: LinkedIn | Instagram | TikTok | Website Follow The Real Biz Life Chronicles: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | Spotify | YouTube  Email us at info@therealbizlifchronicles.com

    #148 Sue Pember - Late ADHD Diagnosis: The Business Advantage
  8. Jun 26

    #147 The HR Mistake Costing SMEs Millions - Elisia Coetzee

    Send us Fan Mail Does HR work for the employee or the employer? Elisia Coetzee answers that one in a way most people do not expect. She works for what is right. When a client asks her to bend the advice to suit what is convenient, she gives the same answer every time and is willing to walk away from the engagement rather than put her name to advice that is wrong. That same principle sits underneath the thing Elisia sees behind most business problems: avoidance. The behaviour an owner leaves because they hope it passes, the conversation pushed to next week because you’re too busy to deal with it. As Elisia puts it, inaction is also an action, usually one with a higher cost than the conversation it replaced. In this conversation, we unpack why a lack of role clarity turns into he-said, she-said conflict that escalates fast, the practical way to walk into a conversation you have been dreading without ambushing the person across from you, and why Elisia would rather lose the work than give advice she does not stand behind. If you have been avoiding something in your business longer than you would like to admit, this is the episode you need to hear now. Mentioned in This Episode: 02:55 The 20-year working relationship that broke down until two people couldn't speak on the phone 05:58 Why inaction is also an action, and the cost most owners never count 22:02 The "you can't hit the dog three days later" rule for dealing with things early 22:48 The first move before any conversation you have been dreading 25:24 The sitting-on-a-nail analogy for staying somewhere that no longer fits 48:20 Why Elisia walks away from clients who ask her to bend the advice 1:05:58 The Google review from a client who found Strategic HR by asking AI 1:18:19 The four-word advice that changed how Elisia runs her business About Elisia: Elisia Coetzee is a Human Resources and Industrial Relations specialist with over 26 years' experience. She holds an MBA and postgraduate qualifications in Human Resource Management and Industrial Sociology, and is a qualified mediator, workplace investigator and executive coach. Elisia has spent the past 13 years consulting across a broad range of industries, with work focused on practical workforce strategy, employee relations, compliance, restructures and leadership development. Guided by her core value of True Grit, she has a particular interest in supporting Aboriginal Corporations, Aboriginal-owned businesses and NDIS providers to build strong, sustainable and culturally aligned workplaces. Connect with Elisia: Website: strategichr.com.au LinkedIn | Instagram This episode is proudly sponsored by Cuppa Cartel. To celebrate, our listeners and the Cuppa Familia can enjoy a special rate on all coffee beans using code TRBLC at checkout. Discover your brand's potential with a free Brand Discovery session at designstudioperth.com.au/brand-discovery About Tracy: Tracy Fryer is a branding powerhouse, speaker, and founder of Design Studio Perth and Trace Designs Bespoke. She’s dedicated to helping business owners and creatives build brands that truly reflect their values, passions, and long-term vision. As the host of The Real Biz Life Chronicles, Tracy brings raw, insightful conversations that push entrepreneurs to embrace bold growth, develop strategic branding, and lead with unapologetic confidence. Her approach is refreshingly real-blending deep expertise with a passion for authenticity, creative excellence, and business success. Connect with Tracy Fryer: LinkedIn | Instagram | TikTok | Website Follow The Real Biz Life Chronicles: Website | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | Spotify | YouTube  Email us at info@therealbizlifchronicles.com

    #147 The HR Mistake Costing SMEs Millions - Elisia Coetzee

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Unedited stories of Business, Branding and Life. Banish boring as Tracy Fryer and her guests take a ride on the rollercoaster of being a business owner - or of simply being human! Get ready to learn exactly what it takes to grow with distinction and show mediocrity the middle finger. In this podcast Tracy interview’s authentic business owners, who share their story of building a successful business, their strategies behind their success and leading the way.  RAW. Honest. Unedited.