Finance This, Property That

Dion Fernandes

Finance This, Property That is your go-to podcast for expert insights and advice on building wealth through property investment. Hosted by, Dion Fernandes, a seasoned finance professional with over 13 years of experience, each episode delves into the intricacies of property purchasing, offering valuable tips and strategies for those looking to create wealth through real estate.From basic questions to advanced technicalities, Dion brings on trusted advisors and specialists in their fields to provide listeners with practical knowledge and actionable steps. Whether you're a first-time buyer, a seasoned investor or simply looking to expand your property portfolio, Finance This, Property That is here to empower and educate you every step of the way.

  1. 1D AGO

    Episode 84: Before You Buy Another Property, Listen to This

    In this solo episode of Finance This Property That, the focus shifts from property selection to what truly determines long-term success: your finance strategy. The episode unpacks why most investors get stuck early—prioritising interest rates, rushing into deals, and neglecting structure—only to hit borrowing ceilings after one or two purchases. Through practical insights and a real client example, listeners learn how strategic loan structuring, disciplined planning, and the right team can transform a modest portfolio into a scalable, multi-property asset base. This episode is a must-listen for anyone serious about building wealth through property without hitting avoidable roadblocks. 🧩 Episode Breakdown [00:00 – 01:30] Introduction & Big Idea Overview of why finance strategy—not property choice—determines portfolio growthCommon mistake: chasing rates instead of scalable funding structures[01:30 – 04:00] The Wrong Starting Point Investors focusing on “what to buy” instead of “how to fund”Why high income or equity alone doesn’t guarantee borrowing powerThe danger of signing contracts without a clear finance plan[04:00 – 06:30] What a Real Finance Strategy Looks Like Discovery process: income, debt, equity, and constraintsStrategic finance diagnostic explainedStructuring loans so each property stands independentlyImportance of flexibility as properties perform differently[06:30 – 08:00] The Foundations of Scaling Three essentials for property investing:Strong incomeEquity or cashClean credit historyWhy small financial habits (like unnecessary credit cards) can derail long-term plans[08:00 – 10:00] Case Study: From $1.5M to $4M Portfolio Client example: restructuring debt and improving cash flowSaving ~$2,500/month through better loan setupStrategic use of equity and tax positioningBuilding a clear 2-step acquisition plan with professional support[10:00 – 11:00] Stuck vs Scaling + Final Advice Poor structure = locked equity + limited borrowingStrong structure = flexibility + repeatabilityBuild a team: broker, accountant, buyer’s agent, plannerFinal takeaway: slow down, plan properly, then scale faster

    11 min
  2. MAR 12

    Episode 83: Grants, Guarantors & Getting In: First Home Buyer Strategies with Luke Ashby

    Top Quotes “You’ll spin your wheels. You’ll try and get the cheap money rather than getting the money that’s actually gonna get you the deal.”“Don’t talk to an order taker.”“Get in with what you can. There’s never gonna be a perfect situation.”Episode Synopsis In this returning episode of Finances & Property, Luke Ashby from Emerge Finance joins the show to unpack the rapidly changing landscape for first-home buyers in Queensland and Brisbane. The conversation covers updated government schemes, deposit options, guarantor loans, rentvesting, shifting lender policies, and why speed, education, and flexibility matter more than ever in a hot market. Luke shares practical examples from real clients, including how lenders mortgage insurance can sometimes be a strategic stepping stone rather than a setback, and why many buyers need to rethink the traditional “buy your first home to live in” approach. It’s a grounded, insight-heavy episode for anyone trying to break into the property market without getting stuck chasing the wrong strategy. Episode Breakdown 00:00 – 04:30 | Catch-up and life updates Luke returns to the podcast and chats about becoming a new dad, moving house, and stepping into the “rentvestor” lifestyle. The discussion opens casually but quickly sets up a broader theme around changing priorities, lifestyle design, and using property strategically. 04:30 – 11:00 | What has changed for first-home buyers Luke explains the key policy and lender changes since his last appearance, especially around borrowing capacity. He highlights updates to how some lenders treat HECS/HELP debt, rental income from boarders, and other policy tweaks designed to improve access for first-home buyers. 11:00 – 18:00 | The 5% scheme, grants, and updated caps A major focus is the expanded 5% government scheme, including the jump in Brisbane’s property cap from $700,000 to $1 million and the removal of income caps. Luke explains how this has increased opportunity on paper, while also driving intense competition in the sub-$1 million market. The episode also touches on the first homeowner grant, stamp duty concessions, and building-related incentives in Queensland. 18:00 – 24:00 | Why first-home buyers need to think differently This section challenges the old mindset that buyers must use every grant or buy only a home they’ll live in. Luke and the host explore the idea that in a fast-moving market, buyers may need to prioritize getting into the market over waiting for the “perfect” setup. Rentvesting and buying an investment property first are framed as valid and sometimes smarter alternatives. 24:00 – 30:00 | Financing options: guarantors, gifted funds, and flexibility Luke breaks down practical funding strategies he’s using with clients right now, including family guarantor loans, gifted deposits, and lender-specific policy advantages. He explains how guarantor structures can help buyers enter the market with little or even no genuine savings, depending on their overall position. 30:00 – 35:00 | The real role of the Bank of Mum and Dad The conversation turns to parental support and how common it has become in today’s market. Alongside the benefits, there’s a strong reminder about the importance of legal protection and documenting gifts or guarantees properly, especially where partners and future relationship changes may affect ownership outcomes. 35:00 – 39:00 | A standout client win: using LMI as a stepping stone Luke shares a case study where clients bought with a 98% loan and paid around $35,000 in LMI, only to refinance six months later after market growth and a stronger valuation. The result: a significantly lower rate, improved monthly cash flow, and even the possibility of a partial LMI refun

    45 min
  3. MAR 5

    Episode 82: The Truth About Buyer’s Agents, Property Strategy & Long-Term Wealth

    “If you are trying to build a portfolio and you are chasing rate as your number one priority, just go directly to the bank.” “My personal philosophy is that I prefer to let the market do the hard work and not me.” “Who tells you no?… sometimes the best advice is no or not yet.” Episode Synopsis In this episode of Finance this, Property that, Dion sits down with Michael Shaw (Avid Hawkes) to unpack what smart property investing looks like when you strip away the hype. Michael shares how his background in risk protection, mortgage broking, and financial planning shaped a “property with purpose” approach—starting with foundations, matching strategy to lifestyle, and buying quality assets in data-backed markets so the market can do the heavy lifting. They bust myths about buyer’s agents, talk the dangers of one-size-fits-all advice online, explore rentvesting and evolving strategies through life stages, and Michael tells the unforgettable story of how he bought his first property at 18—by running an underground event to raise a deposit. Episode Breakdown 00:00 – 03:00 | Welcome + why Michael stood out Dion introduces Michael Shaw from Avid Hawkes and shares why Michael’s “people-first” approach feels different to the typical industry noise. 03:00 – 08:00 | Michael’s path: risk → broking → strategy → buyer’s agent Michael explains how working in insurance and finance sharpened his understanding of what can go wrong—and why he moved into helping clients map the right next steps, not just “buy a property.” 08:00 – 14:00 | Philosophy: let the market do the hard work Michael breaks down his preference for existing properties in strong fundamentals markets, low maintenance, steady tenants, and long-term holds—so clients can focus on life, not constant property management. 14:00 – 20:00 | Start with the person, not the property They dive into the questions that matter first: lifestyle, spare time, buffers for surprise bills, insurance, cash flow, and whether buying right now even makes sense. 20:00 – 26:00 | Business owners: don’t make the business your entire retirement plan Michael explains why relying on selling a business can be risky, and why business owners should build personal wealth outside the business—so a sale becomes a bonus, not the plan. 26:00 – 31:00 | Myths + industry issues + “dangerous marketing” They discuss low barriers to entry, buyer’s agents pushing volume, and ads prescribing strategies without knowing someone’s goals or risk appetite. 31:00 – 35:00 | How to choose the right buyer’s agent Michael shares practical filters: qualifications, investing experience, how the company actually services you (salesperson vs agent), client limits, and process transparency. 35:00 – 41:00 | First property story: 18 years old, 2006, deposit via an event Michael tells the wild story of how he raised a deposit by running a major event—then bought his first property two weeks later. 41:00 – 43:30 | Portfolio evolution + selling to buy lifestyle (debt-free home) Michael explains scaling up, then selling down to buy the family “dream home” debt free—showing how strategy evolves as priorities change. 43:30 – 45:00 | Why “Avid Hawkes” + book + where to find him Michael explains the brand meaning, plugs his book Property with Purpose, and shares how to connect via the Avid Hawkes website and LinkedIn. Episode Duration Duration: 45:00

    44 min
  4. FEB 25

    Episode 81: Your Kids Won’t Inherit What You Think They Will

    In this episode of Finances Property That, Dion sits down with Troyden Ratcliffe (Willow Wealth Partners) — the financial planner behind Dion’s own strategy — for a candid, practical conversation on what business owners miss when it comes to building real wealth. They unpack how to separate business success from personal wealth, why structure and tax planning matter years before you “need” them, and the often-ignored foundations like estate planning, powers of attorney, and correctly underwritten insurance. The episode also dives into SMSFs (when to slow down, when not to do it), common compliance traps, and smart ways parents can start shaping generational wealth without accidentally creating a future tax problem. Episode Breakdown 0:00 – 4:30 | Welcome + who Troy is Dion introduces Troy as “the planner behind my portfolio.” Quick catch-up on Willow Wealth Partners’ growth (and Jess’s new baby Oliver — “nine kilos… he’s a monster”). 4:30 – 12:30 | What business owners get wrong: earning vs extracting Troy explains a core issue: many high-income business owners can earn well but don’t know how to extract and protect wealth. Key themes: Retained earnings sitting in the business = risk exposure. Don’t let the business become your only asset. Build alternative assets alongside (property, shares, super). 12:30 – 20:00 | Dion’s situation: structure, flexibility, and the right team Troy praises Dion’s foundational setup and highlights why structure early creates flexibility later (trusts, income streaming, bucket companies). Dion reinforces the “right team” principle (accountant + adviser + broker working together). Big takeaway: structure isn’t just “set and forget” — it prevents future tax pain and unlocks options when profit grows. 20:00 – 27:30 | The blind spot: estate planning + ‘boring paperwork’ Testamentary trusts, wills that match current wealth, and protecting children long-term. Continuity planning for entities (successor directors / successor appointors). Dion admits the power of attorney sat on his desk for months — Troy’s point: the mundane admin can be the thing that bites later. 27:30 – 35:30 | Separating business wealth from personal wealth The “one picture” view: business wealth + personal wealth must run in parallel. Diversification and protection: super, shares, developments, property strategy—so the business isn’t the single point of failure. 35:30 – 41:30 | SMSF reality check: purpose, sustainability, and rules Dion shares being told bluntly: “not ready for an SMSF” — and why that honesty matters. Troy outlines: SMSF must be sustainable (contributions, buffers, stress testing). Avoid emotionally driven property decisions—use metrics and, often, a buyer’s agent. Compliance traps (no personal use; no leasing residential to relatives). Standout moment: the tax “party pooper” warning — a non-complying fund can go from 15% to 47% tax. 41:30 – 45:00 | Parents + generational wealth: what people ignore The big three many parents overlook: Timing of wealth transfer (helping kids earlier vs “dying wealthy”). Estate planning mechanics (how money flows, tax outcomes, protection from future partners). Insurance as strategy (life, TPD, income protection; right structure; underwritten cover vs group cover traps). 45:00 – 46:00 | Wrap-up + how to contact Troy Troy plugs Willow Wealth Partners: book a complimentary consult via the website. https://willowwealthpartners.com.au/  Dion closes with general advice disclaimer + where to find him.

    47 min
  5. FEB 19

    Episode 80: From $740K to $1.6M: My Personal Property Deal Breakdown

    🎧 Episode Synopsis In this behind-the-scenes solo episode, Dion Fernandez opens the playbook on his own property portfolio and walks listeners through a real-life investment project he and his partner undertook in Crestmead. From strategic trust structures to creative equity release and subdivision plans, Dion shares the exact debt and finance strategies he uses for clients — but this time, on his own deal. With renovation insights, valuation challenges, and a dream team of advisors backing the process, this episode is a goldmine for property investors looking to manufacture growth the smart way. 🗂️ Episode Breakdown 00:00 – Intro & Why Strategy Beats Rate Dion kicks off by challenging the rate-chasing mindset and introducing the core topic: applying his client finance strategies to his personal portfolio. 01:40 – The Crestmead Purchase: $740K Opportunity An overview of the off-market deal: corner block, value-add potential, and trust-based purchase structure between Dion and his partner Janna. 03:00 – The Power of the Right Team From accountants to buyer’s agents and property managers, Dion explains who’s on his team and how each contributed to the project’s success. 05:20 – Renovation on a Budget How they transformed the property with just $50K in renos — including a full kitchen from Facebook Marketplace for $600 and major cosmetic upgrades. 07:00 – Strategic Lending & Trust Structure Why they used two separate trusts, how they structured the loans, and how Dion’s prior planning fast-tracked a two-week approval with a major lender. 09:15 – The Back Block Build & Subdivision Plans The juicy bit: a new 4-bed, 2-bath house going in the backyard without a DA. Dion shares the challenges of “in one line” valuations and how he guided the valuer to a $1.25M pre-construction value. 11:30 – Projected Uplift: From $1.25M to $1.6M Breaking down build costs, projected sales, and conservative capital gains of $350K–$400K — all while setting up strong future cash flow. 13:00 – Social Proof & Scalability Dion reflects on living the same strategies he recommends to clients and emphasizes that growth takes time, structure, and a great support team. 14:45 – Final Thoughts & Client Shoutouts Acknowledgements to the team: Morgan (credit), Chris (Lucid Property Investments), Michelle (Nest Connect), and Janna for being both partner and co-investor.

    15 min
  6. FEB 12

    Episode 79: Offset Accounts: The Most Misused Tool in Property Finance

    🎧 Episode Synopsis In this solo episode of Finance This Property That, finance specialist Dion Fernandez unpacks one of the most misunderstood tools in personal finance: the offset account. Drawing from years of experience and real client scenarios, Dion breaks down why so many property investors and homeowners misuse offsets — and how getting it right can save you thousands in interest, tax, and repayments. Whether you’re growing a property portfolio or simply trying to be more strategic with your lending, this episode is packed with actionable insights and real-world finance strategies. 🗂️ Episode Breakdown 00:00 – Introduction Dion opens with a common client concern: offset accounts, and the confusion surrounding how they actually work. 01:45 – Offset vs Redraw: What’s the Difference? He explains the technical difference between redraw facilities and offset accounts, and why this distinction matters in practice. 03:20 – Common Offset Mistakes From offsets being linked to the wrong loans, to savings accounts being mistaken for offsets, Dion highlights the top missteps costing clients money. 06:05 – Real Client Case Study: Debt Recycling Done Right Dion walks through a real-life example where he helped clients restructure a $1M home loan, saving over $5,000/month using multiple offsets and equity release strategies. 08:45 – Tax Strategy & Structure Tips Why your investment loan shouldn't be offset — and how to set up your structure to keep tax-deductible and personal debts separated. 10:30 – Strategic Banking Habits Dion emphasizes the importance of financial literacy and taking ownership of your own banking setup. The episode closes with a call for clients to ask better questions and seek tailored advice.

    14 min
  7. FEB 5

    Episode 78 : Why Pre-Approvals Might Be Wasting Your Time

    🎙 Top Quotes "A pre-approval for pre-approval's sake doesn't help anyone. Sometimes they're not even worth the piece of paper they're written on." "If you’re chasing rate as your number one priority, just go directly to the bank." "We do all the research upfront before we even submit any applications — that’s how we give clients confidence." 📌 Episode Synopsis In this punchy solo episode, Dion Fernandez breaks down the common misconceptions around pre-approvals in property finance — and why they can often do more harm than good. With over 75 podcast episodes under his belt, Dion delivers sharp insights on what truly matters when preparing to finance a property: strategy, structure, and smart lender selection. From credit checks to postcode pitfalls and the myth of “cheap money,” this episode is a fast-track education for anyone building a portfolio or navigating lending in Australia. ⏱ Episode Breakdown 00:00 – Intro & Today’s Topic Dion tees up a focused discussion on the pitfalls of pre-approvals. States why his team often avoids them entirely. 01:45 – The Pre-Approval Myth Many pre-approvals aren’t fully assessed. Credit checks are wasted when deals fall apart due to unverified income or shifting valuations. 03:20 – Real Talk on Lending Practices Some banks and brokers don’t analyze financials upfront. Dion stresses the importance of real due diligence vs. superficial approvals. 04:40 – What Dion’s Team Does Differently Strategic financial diagnostics done before applications are submitted. Detailed reviews of structure, servicing, credit files, and postcode restrictions. 06:15 – Case Study: When a Pre-Approval Did Make Sense A self-employed client with complex financials needed a conditional approval. Even when expired, strategic prep allowed the deal to go through seamlessly. 08:00 – More Examples of Mismatched Pre-Approvals Dion recounts a client’s broker getting an invalid approval due to restricted postcode lending caps. Highlights importance of aligning lender policy with property and borrower profile. 09:15 – Final Thoughts Proper prep prevents portfolio stagnation. Emphasizes: “Strategic finance diagnostics give you certainty — and options.” 10:00 – Outro & Contact Info Find Dion on Instagram (@dion.financespecialist), LinkedIn, or financethispropertythat.com.au

    10 min
  8. JAN 29

    Episode 76: Trust Lending Just Got Harder, Here's What You Need to Know

    🔥 Top Quotes "If you are chasing rate as your number one priority, just go directly to the bank — but you’ll spin your wheels and miss the actual deal." "A property manager is no longer just a rent collector. For heaven's sake, it’s about strategic oversight now." "We don’t submit applications to get approvals — we submit them to get deals settled and portfolios built." 📘 Episode Synopsis In this no-fluff solo episode, Dion from Emerge Finance tackles the tightening landscape of trust lending and what property investors need to know right now. As major lenders like Macquarie and ANZ retreat or tighten policies, Dion outlines the remaining players, updated lending criteria, and the pitfalls of working with brokers who aren't well-versed in trust structures. He breaks down why strategy-first finance planning is more critical than ever, shares real client scenarios, and explains how to future-proof your portfolio even as lending conditions shift. It’s a punchy, insight-packed episode for serious investors looking to grow smart in a tougher climate. ⏱️ Episode Breakdown 00:00 – Introduction Dion opens with a bold take: trust lending has gotten harder, but not impossible — and he’s here to explain why. 01:00 – Major Lenders Pulling Back Macquarie hits pause on trust lending. CBA only lending to existing clients. ANZ reduces LVR to 70% and loads rates. FirstMac remains open but requires tighter servicing inclusion. 03:30 – Impact on Investors Less lender choice and increased policy scrutiny. Brokers and bank staff often lack the experience to structure trust deals. Delays, declines, and missed opportunities when due diligence is poor. 06:00 – Why Strategy is Everything Dion shares his “no submission without strategy” approach. Structural diagnosis, income flow mapping, lender policy matching. Collaborating with accountants to ensure lending-aligned trust structures. 08:30 – Real Client Scenario Dion breaks down a client situation where he rescued a stalled deal due to poor broker planning. Business loan misalignment was resolved in 3–4 days by restructuring the debt and facilitating trust-aligned lending. 10:00 – Future-Proofing Through Strategy Portfolio planning 2–3 steps ahead. Balancing trust and personal ownership depending on tax and asset goals. Clear, tailored plans = higher chance of settlement. 11:30 – Final Thoughts + Call to Action Trust lending has narrowed, but opportunity remains. The key? Work with a specialist who takes the time to plan properly. Follow Dion on Instagram and LinkedIn for more updates.

    13 min

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Finance This, Property That is your go-to podcast for expert insights and advice on building wealth through property investment. Hosted by, Dion Fernandes, a seasoned finance professional with over 13 years of experience, each episode delves into the intricacies of property purchasing, offering valuable tips and strategies for those looking to create wealth through real estate.From basic questions to advanced technicalities, Dion brings on trusted advisors and specialists in their fields to provide listeners with practical knowledge and actionable steps. Whether you're a first-time buyer, a seasoned investor or simply looking to expand your property portfolio, Finance This, Property That is here to empower and educate you every step of the way.