U.S. of N/A: Non-Alcoholic and Mindful Drinking

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The U.S. of N/A podcast series is about the people and places putting mindful drinking and functional beverages on the map, one crafted sip at a time. In each episode we'll sit down with founders and innovators who are contributing to a beverage culture that is a bit more healthy, and a little less boozy. Brought to you by N/ATION Collaborative, LLC., and sponsored by Go Brewing.

  1. REWIND: A Look Back At 2025, And The Future Of Mindful Drinking

    21H AGO

    REWIND: A Look Back At 2025, And The Future Of Mindful Drinking

    January will mark our 2nd birthday as a podcast, and like most restless toddlers, we're really only getting started. But before we turn the calendar to 2026 we first take a look back at highlights from just a few of our favorite Season 2 episodes, focusing on the many founders we've featured sharing why they're passionate about mindful drinking. Here's seven of those founders / leaders, talking specifically about their 'why': Laurel Harrop, Busty Lush Lauren Chitwood, Spiritless Ian Blessing, All The Bitter Mark Ruf, NA Beer Club Carl Radke, Soft Bar + Cafe Gary Long, Botanical Sciences Mary Bernuth, Pharos Brands Special thanks to our sponsor, Go Brewing / Easy Man, makers of delicious craft beer and infused brews! Use promo code NATION15 to take an additional 15% off your online order. We'd love your feedback!

    33 min
  2. Seven Questions About The Federal Hemp Ban

    NOV 25 · BONUS

    Seven Questions About The Federal Hemp Ban

    When signed into law on November 12th, 2025, a bill ironically known as the "Government Shutdown Prevention Act," included language that would all but shut down the multi-billion dollar hemp industry, of which beverages are a major piece. In this bonus episode we dive into seven questions that define what's next for an industry picking itself off the mat, and how consumers might respond. Questions we address include: 1) How will the hemp industry, accustomed to playing defense against state legislative banning efforts, shift their focus to going on offense?  2) With November, 2026 as the timetable for the new restrictions, will that allow enough time to lobby the federal government to change course?  3) Will a large number of consumers pursue a medical cannabis card to continue access to products they have become used to buying in traditional retail stores?  4) How might this impact efforts to re-schedule cannabis from a Schedule I controlled substance?  5) Will hemp beverage brands turn to other functional ingredients to try and fill the void? Ashwagandha, l-theanine, Lion's Mane and other nootropics have been promoted for their functional benefits, which aren't nearly as obvious as THC. 6) Are unhappy consumers likely to turn their focus toward legalizing recreational cannabis in more states? 7) How might this impact the overall non-alcoholic beverage space? Want to comment on our LinkedIn discussion?  Also mentioned in this episode: Free Spirits Podcast (interview with HBA's Chris Lackner) Gary Long, Botanical Sciences (past U.S. of N/A episode) We'd love your feedback!

    18 min
  3. Has Mindful Drinking Finally Become Aspirational?

    NOV 19

    Has Mindful Drinking Finally Become Aspirational?

    We know mindful drinking supports wellness and healthier choices. But has it also finally become something the cool kids are into? That was the question we posed to Sam Bail, Founder of Third Place Bar, who has been running pop-up events in New York City for three years. What's been different lately in her business? Getting calls from brands in fashion and beauty, wanting to feature non-alcoholic drinks at various industry and launch events. It's part of a broader trend of NA continuing to show up in places beyond the dusty cabinet where bars and restaurants used to keep the O'Doul's. Mentioned in this episode: Third Place Bar Anti Hangover Drinking Club (Sam's Substack) Where To Drink When You're Not Drinking? (IG video series) We'd love your feedback!

    36 min
  4. The State of Non-Alc, Featuring the Modern Substitute

    OCT 23

    The State of Non-Alc, Featuring the Modern Substitute

    A lot can happen in eighteen months, and we re-visited our season one conversation with The Modern Substitute's Myles Faulkner to discuss the state of the non-alcoholic category. In a follow-up to that original interview we talk about the rise of hemp-infused beverages, a continuing stream of celebrity-backed brands, and a mid-strength category that probably isn't getting enough attention yet. We also talk about some of Myles' faves, what he'd like to see from a hospitality perspective at the bar and restaurant level, and we end with a little global football talk less than a year away from the World Cup coming to North America. Mentioned in this episode:  The Modern Substitute (home page) Asahi 0.0 10 Barrel NA Apocalypse IPA Almave Blanco and Ambar Tweedle Lucky Frog Repose We'd love your feedback!

    44 min
  5. Cannabis For Grownups: Why Boomers Are An Ideal THC Market

    OCT 2

    Cannabis For Grownups: Why Boomers Are An Ideal THC Market

    Repeat entrepreneurs who have just entered their seventies, Pharos Brands' co-founders Mary Eggers Bernuth and Rhyno Stinchfield are no rookies to starting something new. They're equally unabashed in their enthusiasm for introducing fellow baby boomers to the benefits of consuming cannabis beverages. We sit down with Pharos' Mary Bernuth to talk about what led her to expanding beyond a successful psychotherapy practice to enter the exciting, if unpredictable world of cannabis. We also talk about her passion for introducing that new world to a generation of her peers, and how they're investing in the category for the long haul. Mentioned in this episode: Pharos Brands We'd like to thank our sponsor, Go Brewing! Use code NATION15 to get 15% off your order on either their delicious N/A beer, or their THC brand, Easy Man. We'd love your feedback!

    38 min
  6. REWIND: Is Mid-Strength ABV Having A Moment?

    SEP 25 · BONUS

    REWIND: Is Mid-Strength ABV Having A Moment?

    On the season premiere of ABC's iconic, entrepreneurial series Shark Tank, Dad Strength Brewing co-founders Ryan Kutscher and Craig Carey scored investments from not one, but THREE of the show's sharks; Lori Greiner, Robert Herjavec, and Rashaun Williams.  In this bonus episode we replay clips from both our August, 2024 conversation with Dad Strength's Ryan Kutscher, and our February, 2025 one with Brandon Joldersma, CEO of low-ABV Arlow Wines. It's worth revisiting a trend that seems to be finding a middle ground between non-alcoholic and full-alcohol, as consumers look for other ways to moderate their alcohol consumption (or, "malternating", as Dad Strength's Kutscher calls it). Mentioned in this episode: Dad Strength Brewing Arlow Wines Surely Wines Oceano Wines Andiamo Brew Full Episodes: Ryan Kutscher, Dad Strength Brewing (released August, 2024) Brandon Joldersma, Arlow Wines (released March 2025) We'd love your feedback!

    19 min
  7. The Mainstreaming Of Cannabis Wellness Culture

    SEP 10

    The Mainstreaming Of Cannabis Wellness Culture

    With a career background that has included stops at medical supply and equipment behemoth, McKesson, as well as executive roles at a variety of life sciences companies, Botanical Sciences CEO Gary Long knows healthcare. While his background may not seem like a traditional fit for the medical and hemp-derived cannabis world, his arrival along with other outsiders signal a transformation underway in a category becoming known more for its positive lifestyle impacts than for previous negative stereotypes. In our conversation we talk about what led him to the industry, what he sees as opportunities and threats, and how cannabis has slowly become part of the growing health and wellness movement that continues to unfold across the country. Mentioned in this episode: Botanical Sciences ONE59 Traktion Talks Podcast Special thanks to Go Brewing / Easy Man for being a show sponsor! Use code NATION15 at checkout for either brand to get 15% off your order. We'd love your feedback!

    37 min
  8. Deconstructing The Future Of NA Spirits With De Soi's Morgan McLachlan

    AUG 5

    Deconstructing The Future Of NA Spirits With De Soi's Morgan McLachlan

    When De Soi/Amass Co-Founder Morgan McLachlan was growing up in British Columbia, Canada, making booze for a living wasn't on her radar. But a love of botany and the alchemy of beverage making drew her in, and eventually she became one of the few female master distillers in the world. In our conversation with Morgan we talk first about her journey into the world of alcohol, and why expanding into the non-alcoholic realm became a priority. We also touch on her thoughts of the burgeoning THC drinks scene, and how the partnership with Katy Perry grew from a potential investor relationship into co-founding De Soi together. Mentioned in this episode: De Soi AMASS Botanics  Photo Credit/Cover: De Soi We'd love your feedback!

    33 min
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The U.S. of N/A podcast series is about the people and places putting mindful drinking and functional beverages on the map, one crafted sip at a time. In each episode we'll sit down with founders and innovators who are contributing to a beverage culture that is a bit more healthy, and a little less boozy. Brought to you by N/ATION Collaborative, LLC., and sponsored by Go Brewing.

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