The Build Groups Podcast

Adam Erlichman | Build Groups | Lumivoz

How do you build groups? Are you building or maintaining your small groups ministry? We seek to start, spark, and spur on thought trails you otherwise wouldn't have to get you asking questions you normally wouldn't because you get to hear to some of the best church leaders in Groups ministry across the country. Tune in to learn and explore areas of Groups ministry you've never considered before or need reminders.

  1. Jul 9

    The Executive Pastor w/ Nick Edwards

    Show Summary In this episode of the Build Groups Podcast, host Adam Erlickman interviews Nick Edwards, a seasoned ministry leader and consultant who is newly joining the Build Groups team. The episode explores the unique, often misunderstood role of the Executive Pastor (XP). Drawing parallels to Biblical deacons in Acts 6, they define the XP as the "chief operations officer" of a church. Edwards highlights how a healthy XP takes the operational weight—such as HR, finances, and facilities—off the senior pastor, allowing the lead pastor to focus purely on vision and preaching. They discuss the critical need for alignment across all ministry departments and emphasize that a successful XP must care for the staff’s hearts, essentially acting as the "pastor to the pastors." Key Takeaways The Biblical Blueprint for Operational Support: The role of an executive pastor echoes Acts 6, where leaders were appointed to manage administrative duties so the apostles could remain dedicated to preaching and the Word [08:11].When to Hire an XP: While under 250 members might not require one, churches typically experience a strong need for an Executive Pastor or a director of operations once they reach the 700 to 1,000-member mark to create leadership margin [10:42].Vision vs. Mission Strategy: The senior pastor is responsible for casting the long-term vision (where the church is going), whereas the executive pastor's job is to build the roadmap and execute the movement to get there [12:10].The Danger of Bad Hiring: A bad hire is one of the most expensive mistakes a church can make because its negative impact outlasts their termination—eroding volunteer trust, staff alignment, and overall church culture [26:01].Best Quotes "The executive pastor is the person who really acts as the chief operations officer... so that the pastor can focus on vision, preaching, and being able to communicate the word of God." [08:56]"You never tell me anything I don't know, you just ask the questions I would never ask myself. And I think that's the role of a coach and consultant." [16:28]"We are calling you executive pastor because you have to have the heart of a pastor. We are not looking for an operations person; we are looking for a pastor who God has wired on the administrative side." [26:30]

    The Executive Pastor w/ Nick Edwards
  2. 09/25/2025

    Steve Gladen - Empowering Your Leaders

    Steve is the Founder and CEO of the Small Group Network. An international, non-denominational network, started in 2007, to help churches Eradicate Loneliness, engage the Bible, and impact the world. Steve also serves as an Elder of Saddleback Church.   He stepped away in August 2025 from local church ministry, where he had been Pastor of Small Groups at Saddleback Church from February 1998 to August 2025, where he oversaw the strategic launch and spiritual development of over 7,000 adult small groups on multiple campuses. He has authored Small Groups With Purpose, which has been translated into fourteen languages to date, Leading Small Groups With Purpose, and Planning Small Groups With Purpose.  He has a driving passion to see each church attendee connected to a qualified shepherd and become an integral part of their church body, living purposefully for Christ. He frequently speaks at conferences and consults with church leaders from many denominations, both in the United States and around the world. Prior to stepping into his full-time role with the SGN, Steve had been on five other church staffs of varying sizes. He earned a Master of Divinity from Fuller Theological Seminary in 1985 and a B.A. in Biblical Studies, with minors in Greek and Philosophy, in 1982 from Evangel University. Steve and Lisa have been married since 1989 and have two children, Erika and Ethan. Saddleback Community Group Leaders HandbookSmall Group Guardrails image

    Steve Gladen - Empowering Your Leaders

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How do you build groups? Are you building or maintaining your small groups ministry? We seek to start, spark, and spur on thought trails you otherwise wouldn't have to get you asking questions you normally wouldn't because you get to hear to some of the best church leaders in Groups ministry across the country. Tune in to learn and explore areas of Groups ministry you've never considered before or need reminders.

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