Hiring someone for the first time? Maybe the interviews are already on your calendar, or a stack of resumes just landed on your desk. Here is how most first interviews go. You read the resume five minutes before they walk in. You wing it. You talk for forty-five minutes, laugh a couple of times, and walk out thinking, yeah, I like them. Then you hire the person you liked the most, not the person who can do the job best. Sometimes that is the same person. Sometimes it is an expensive surprise ninety days later. An interview is not a conversation. It is a measurement. A 2022 review of decades of hiring research in the Journal of Applied Psychology found that the structured interview, the same questions asked the same way to every candidate and scored the same way, came out on top as a predictor of how people actually perform on the job. It predicted about twice as well as the casual, let's-just-talk interview. And with candidates walking in with AI-polished answers, the first answer tells you less than ever. In this episode John Espinosa walks through The Real Interview, three moves for how to interview someone when you have never hired before: what to ask, what to listen for, and how to tell if they will actually fit. ONE. DECIDE BEFORE THEY WALK IN. Before you read a single resume, finish one sentence: ninety days from now, this person is great if they can... Write down three things. Then write one tell-me-about-a-time question for each, and ask the same questions in the same order to every candidate. Otherwise you are not comparing candidates. You are comparing conversations. TWO. ASK THE SECOND QUESTION. The first answer is the rehearsed one. Listen for I, not we, and listen for details. Then follow up: What did you do next? What happened after that? What would you do differently? And score every candidate right after the interview, before they all blur together. THREE. TELL THEM THE HARD PART. Sociologist Lauren Rivera found that when interviewers hire for fit, it often means like me: same hobbies, same background. Fit is not would I grab a beer with this person. It is will this person work the way this team needs to work. Then tell every candidate the hardest part of the job, out loud, and watch how they react. These are the interview questions to ask candidates, and the hiring process behind them, whether you are a new manager making your first hire or a small business owner learning how to hire good people. WHO THIS IS FOR New managers making their first hire, small business owners who want to know how to hire employees without guessing, and experienced managers who want a hiring process that picks the right person instead of the most likeable one. ------------------ Get my coaching frameworks behind the scenes. One idea and one small shift to your inbox every week. Start here: https://www.thejohnespinosa.com/start-here Ready to take your leadership to the next level? Join our Coaching Program and start building clarity, focus, and real momentum. ๐ Apply here: https://www.thejohnespinosa.com/workwithjohn