They Assume We Know Nothing Podcast

Caitlin Apple and Kitty Packman
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A Taylor Swift fan podcast deep diving into the many eras, lyrical analyses, and so much more. Join two Swifties, who have been there since the start, to ride the waves of all the emotions behind Taylor's lyrics and the vast interpretations. So get out your quill pens and put on your friendship bracelets! Join Cait Apple and Kitty Packman where the spirit meets the microphone.

  1. 07/02/2025

    028. It's been a long time coming...

    026. It's been a long time coming...   Welcome back! The girls are back (finally) and sharing their thoughts on Taylor Swift updates in 2025 (so far!) and chiming in with some personal updates as well. This episode covers: Taylor at Tulula's garden in Philly  Taylor owning her masters  Taylor and Travis sightings Personal updates and more! Resources:  Join the TAWKN community: tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod Email Us: theyassumeyouknownothingpod@gmail.com   Follow us: Kitty's instagram: www.instagram.com/kittypackman Cait's instagram: www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own.

    41 min

  2. 11/22/2024

    027. Taylor Swift Games (Kitty’s Version)

    027. Taylor Swift Games (Kitty’s Version)   A fun episode today with the girls! Kitty came up with Taylor Swift related questions that has both hosts going a little deeper into Taylor Swift’s life, lyrics, and discography. What are your answers to these questions? The girls want to know!  This episode covers: Which Taylor lyric best describes you?  If you had to eliminate one TS album, which would it be?  Which of Taylor’s previous relationships do you feel shaped her the most?  Best song off of evermore for the cold/winter months ? What genre of music do you most want Taylor’s next album to be?   Which album font do you think is more iconic: reputation or Debut?   If you could hear Taylor play one song live just for you, what would it be? Make a ridiculous Debutation prediction (for either album or both)?    Resources:  Join the TAWKN community: tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod Email Us: theyassumeyouknownothingpod@gmail.com   Follow us:   Kitty's instagram: www.instagram.com/kittypackman Cait's instagram: www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple   This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own.

    56 min

  3. 11/14/2024

    026. The Way I Loved You- A Taylor Swift Lyrical Analysis

    The Way I Loved You Today Cait and Kitty break down the lyrics of another Taylor Swift song from the album Fearless. They are discussing The Way I Loved You, a powerful soliloquy so relatable when you just don't feel that "Spark" in a relationship, even though the seem perfect on paper. This episode covers: How love and lust differentiate Taylor's description of The Way I Loved you Kitty and Cait's personal connections to the depiction of a relationship in this song A break down lyric by lyric of Taylor Swift's The Way I Love you song from the album Fearless.    Resources:  Join the TAWKN community: ⁠tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing⁠ ⁠instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod⁠ Email Us: theyassumeyouknownothingpod@gmail.com Follow us: Kitty's instagram: ⁠www.instagram.com/kittypackman⁠ Cait's instagram: ⁠www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple⁠  This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own

    1h 2m

  4. 10/31/2024

    025. You’re Not Sorry- A Taylor Swift Lyrical Analysis

    Today Cait and Kitty break down the lyrics of another Taylor Swift song from the album Fearless. They are discussing You’re Not Sorry, one of Taylor’s underrated ballads. A relatable take on a relationship that you choose to end before it ends you.  This episode covers: The Era’s Tour quick recap discussing surprise songs, Debutation, and easter eggs. History and statements made during the release You’re Not Sorry and it’s ranking on the charts Breaking down You’re not Sorry lyrics and how difficult and necessary it is to leave someone that has hurt you too many times    Resources:  Join the TAWKN community: tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod Email Us: theyassumeyouknownothingpod@gmail.com Follow us: Kitty's instagram: www.instagram.com/kittypackman Cait's instagram: www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple  This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own

    1h 4m

  5. 10/24/2024

    024. 25 Taylor Swift Songs That Give Disney Vibes x Spiritually Ever After

    In this crossover episode with Spiritually Ever After, Kitty dives into the 25 Taylor Swift songs that give her Disney vibes. Some of them may be a stretch, but isn’t the whole point to live in fantasy?! We’re all mad here. This episode covers: 25 Taylor Swift songs that have references to, or similarities with, Disney movies Kitty trying to hold back from talking about recent clothing and surprise song choices at the Miami Eras Tour shows Kitty accidentally thinking Ed Sheeran was on “Today Was A Fairytale”… \ An admission of guilt that Kitty has not yet seen Toy Story 4 The two ways you can interpret “mad woman” (and why both are right) Resources:Taylor x Disney playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4POo6YMbV2yrbz4wRtzTOJ?si=fBiN1txxRG2_sCMkY0Tfig&pi=u-I9eC86zSRu-9  Join the TAWKN community: • ⁠tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing⁠ • ⁠instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod⁠ Join the SEA community: • tiktok.com/@spirituallyeverafter• instagram.com/spiritually_everafter Email Us: theyassumeyouknownothingpod@gmail.com  Follow us: Kitty's instagram: ⁠www.instagram.com/kittypackman⁠ Cait's instagram: ⁠www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple⁠ This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own

    21 min

  6. 10/17/2024

    023. Tell Me Why-A Lyrical Analysis of Taylor Swift

    023. Tell Me Why-A Lyrical Analysis of Taylor Swift TRIGGER WARNING: Please note that this episode contains content related to domestic violence that some people may find disturbing or triggering. Please keep yourself safe and skip this episode if this would be difficult for you to hear. IF YOU OR SOMEONE YOU KNOW NEEDS SUPPORT FROM DOMESTIC VIOLENCE --- Call 1-800-799-SAFE or text "START" to 88788 In this episode Kitty and Cait discuss the very serious topic of toxic relationships in connection to the Taylor Swift song "Tell Me Why". Kitty and Cait share their view points and discuss mental health, abusive relationships, and how things aren't black and white when it happens. This episode covers: Lyric by lyric analysis of "Tell Me Why" by Taylor Swift A deeper understanding of toxic dynamics in relationships Discussing topics like gaslighting, manipulation, and love-bombing    Resources:  Join the TAWKN community: tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod Email Us: theyassumeyouknownothingpod@gmail.com   Follow us:   Kitty's instagram: www.instagram.com/kittypackman Cait's instagram: www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple   This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own

    1h 8m

  7. 10/10/2024

    022. Breathe-A Taylor Swift Lyrical Analysis

    022. Breathe-A Taylor Swift Lyrical Analysis   Today Cait and Kitty breathe through the simplistic yet powerful lyrics of the song "Breathe" from the Taylor Swift Album "Fearless." Tune is as the girls share their thoughts and feelings as they make their way through the song lyric by lyric. This episode covers: Rumors and concepts around the basis behind the song What Taylor Swift shared publically about Breathe Breaking down the lyrics of Breathe lyric by lyric and discussing the meanings Resources:  Join the TAWKN community: tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod Email Us: theyassumeyouknownothingpod@gmail.com   Follow us:   Kitty's instagram: www.instagram.com/kittypackman Cait's instagram: www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own

    1h 1m

  8. 10/03/2024

    021. Taylor Swift Top Songs on Every Album (non-romantic related)

    021. Taylor Swift Top Songs on Every Album (non-romantic related)   Today Cait and Kitty go through each album chronologically and pick out some of their NUMBER ONE FAVORITE TAYLOR SWIFT SONG that has little or nothing to do with love, heartbreak, heartache, and romantic feelings (or lack there of). Here Kitty and Cait's different takes and opinions. This episode covers: A break down of Kitty and Cait's favorite songs on every album in Taylor Swift's Discography -Taylor Swift (debut), Fearless, Speak Now, Red, 1989, Reputation, Folklore, Evermore, Midnights, Tortured Poets Department -How we differentiated between a romantically based song and different themes    Resources:  Join the TAWKN community: tiktok.com/@theyassumeweknownothing instagram.com/theyassumeweknownothingpod Email Us: theyassumeyouknownothingpod@gmail.com   Follow us:   Kitty's instagram: www.instagram.com/kittypackman Cait's instagram: www.instagram.com/iamcaitlinapple This podcast is in no way related to or endorsed by Taylor Swift, her companies, or record labels. All opinions are our own

    1h 11m
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A Taylor Swift fan podcast deep diving into the many eras, lyrical analyses, and so much more. Join two Swifties, who have been there since the start, to ride the waves of all the emotions behind Taylor's lyrics and the vast interpretations. So get out your quill pens and put on your friendship bracelets! Join Cait Apple and Kitty Packman where the spirit meets the microphone.

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  • Creator
    Caitlin Apple and Kitty Packman
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2025
  • Episodes
    29
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Caitlin Apple and Kitty Packman
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    They Assume We Know Nothing Podcast