Cops, Criminals, and Christ

Dale Sutherland

"Cops, Criminals & Christ" is a podcast delving into the intertwining worlds of law enforcement, crime, and faith. With Dale Sutherland, a former narcotics Sergeant turned pastor, it features gripping narratives and candid interviews exploring behind-the-scenes work of life undercover, as well as the transformative power of faith in the lives of both cops and criminals. Tune in for compelling insights and real-life stories that challenge, inspire, and reveal God’s grace available through it all, at the hands of its host and Dale’s daughter, Kristen Crew.

  1. JAN 27

    From Border Roots to Prison Ministry

    From border politics to prison ministry: Dale Sutherland (The Undercover Pastor) interviews Saul Ramirez, who grew up on the U.S.–Mexico border in Laredo, Texas. Power, pressure, and integrity: Saul shares his rise from city council to mayor at 32, navigating corruption, faith awakening, and leadership under scrutiny. A faith redefined: A Gideon Bible and a missionary’s prayer shifted his understanding of success—from good works to grace-filled calling. National influence, lasting impact: Saul reflects on serving at HUD, advancing affordable housing and community planning beyond political cycles. When doors close, purpose opens: After politics, Saul rebuilt in the private sector—then stepped into jail ministry, leading Spanish worship and Bible study for incarcerated men. Hope behind locked doors: A raw conversation about surrender, repentance, forgiveness, and following Jesus when life doesn’t go as planned. If this moved you, subscribe, share it with a friend who needs hope, and leave a review so others can find the show. Let's connect! Instagram: @theundercoverpastor Facebook: @theundercoverpastor Tik Tok: @theundercoverpastor Youtube: @dalesutherlandundercoverpastor Website: theundercoverpastor.com

    29 min

  2. JAN 16

    12 Things the Bible Doesn’t Say (But Many Christians Assume It Does)

    We talk through 12 common things Christians assume the Bible says, but it actually doesn’t. Not because those ideas are always “bad,” but because confusing Christian culture with Scripture can create unnecessary guilt, fear, and pressure. Former police officer and pastor Dale Sutherland is joined by Pastor Nate for a grounded conversation covering: 1. The Bible does not say every Christian will feel a “calling” for every decision. 2. The Bible does not say you will have total peace in all circumstances. 3. The Bible does not say your words or thoughts mystically create reality. 4. The Bible does not say every Christian’s destiny is big or public. 5. The Bible does not say you will always enjoy reading the Bible more than everything else. 6. The Bible does not say everything in the world is evil. 7. The Bible does not say all Christians will experience God the same way. 8. The Bible does not say Scripture verses alone cure all anxiety or mental-health struggles. 9. The Bible does not say godly people with faith never get sick. 10. The Bible does not say suffering automatically means God is displeased with you. 11. The Bible does not say faithful believers won’t experience emotional distress. 12. The Bible does not say it’s selfish to pray for your own needs. If you’ve ever felt like you were “failing” at Christianity because your experience didn’t match what you heard from others — this one is for you. Let's connect! Instagram: @theundercoverpastor Facebook: @theundercoverpastor Tik Tok: @theundercoverpastor Youtube: @dalesutherlandundercoverpastor Website: theundercoverpastor.com

    49 min

  3. 12/19/2025

    A Navy SEAL and Undercover Cop on TBI, PTSD, Healing, and Faith

    Navy SEAL, Todd Peters, and The Undercover Pastor, Dale Sutherland  talk candidly about TBI, PTS, suicide risk, HBOT, and the plan to launch Rally Points  to help others heal. This episode covers: • choosing spiritual impact over tactical careers • Stronghold Alliance mission and model • chronic migraines and HBOT breakthrough • treating TBI and PTS without stigma • the invisible wound and family fallout • Rally Points as weekly brotherhood • training facilitators and partnering churches • credible access to military and law enforcement • funding treatment packages and scaling goals • stories of lives changed and sustained hope Let's connect! Instagram: @theundercoverpastor Facebook: @theundercoverpastor Tik Tok: @theundercoverpastor Youtube: @dalesutherlandundercoverpastor Website: theundercoverpastor.com

    25 min

  4. 12/09/2025

    Deadly Force in the Bible and in Law Enforcement

    We wrestle with deadly force from the street to Scripture, weighing policy shifts, gritty case stories, and the tension between justice and mercy. We look at how a holy God judges sin, why any of us still live, and what true accountability should require. • defining deadly force beyond firearms • shift from fleeing felon doctrine to imminent threat • why “unarmed” does not always mean safe • two DC cases and missing context in headlines • human reactions after shootings and moral weight • sin, holiness, and divine judgment in Scripture • Korah’s rebellion and Acts 5 as warnings • the cross as perfect justice and perfect mercy • reframing the question toward grace and accountability Let's connect! Instagram: @theundercoverpastor Facebook: @theundercoverpastor Tik Tok: @theundercoverpastor Youtube: @dalesutherlandundercoverpastor Website: theundercoverpastor.com

    27 min

  5. 11/24/2025

    A Navy SEAL Shares His Battle Stories and Beliefs with an Undercover Cop

    A Navy SEAL turned pastor talks to the Undercover Pastor about how combat, cold-water survival, and hard training shape character and faith. Stories from Panama to Alaska reveal why gentleness is strength under control and why real salvation begins when self-rescue ends. Let's connect! Instagram: @theundercoverpastor Facebook: @theundercoverpastor Tik Tok: @theundercoverpastor Youtube: @dalesutherlandundercoverpastor Website: theundercoverpastor.com

    39 min

  6. 11/06/2025

    Investigating Grace: A Detective’s Case Study on the Thief on the Cross

    We trace the thief beside Jesus from likely crimes and arrest to trial, prison, and crucifixion, then turn to the shocking promise of paradise and what it says about grace. Law, guilt, and mercy collide as we ask who deserves a gift no one can repay. • bandit tactics in Judea and the meaning of lēstēs • how Romans used informants and undercover work • swift Roman trials and brutal prison conditions • the mechanics and purpose of crucifixion as deterrent • the thief’s confession, Jesus’ innocence, and the promise • how ancient reciprocity clashes with New Testament grace • why trying to repay God distorts the gift • a new community where merit does not rank people • standing in grace for cops, criminals, and everyone Like, comment, subscribe, and let us know what you think after you listen on this episode of Undercover Grace with the Undercover Pastor. Let's connect! Instagram: @theundercoverpastor Facebook: @theundercoverpastor Tik Tok: @theundercoverpastor Youtube: @dalesutherlandundercoverpastor Website: theundercoverpastor.com

    26 min

  7. 08/11/2025

    Lon Solomon’s Radical Journey: Jewish Hippie to Jesus Follower

    Dale Sutherland interviews longtime friend Lon Solomon in a powerful episode sharing Lon’s radical transformation from Jewish drug dealer and Woodstock hippie to devoted follower of Jesus and megachurch pastor. Discover how an encounter with Jesus changed his life forever and why it’s never too late to find hope and redemption. Let's connect! Instagram: @theundercoverpastor Facebook: @theundercoverpastor Tik Tok: @theundercoverpastor Youtube: @dalesutherlandundercoverpastor Website: theundercoverpastor.com

    40 min

  8. 07/25/2025

    Redeeming Trauma: Joy Tan-Chi Mendoza's Faith Journey Through Sexual Violence

    Dale Sutherland shares the story of Joy Tan-Chi Mendoza, who survived a violent home invasion and sexual assault when she was 15 years old. Joy is joined by her mother, Deonna Tan-chi, in this heart-wrenching yet inspiring conversation. They share how faith, forgiveness, and community support transformed their trauma into a testimony that has helped countless other survivors. • Joy was assaulted by armed robbers who invaded her family home in the Philippines when she was 15 • Despite the trauma, Joy experienced supernatural peace amid the attack, reciting Psalm 23 • Joy and her friends collectively decided to forgive their attackers within days of the assault • Going public with their story created space for other assault survivors to share their experiences • Joy's mother faced her own spiritual crisis but chose to trust God would use even this trauma for good • The family's approach to healing centered on seeing circumstances through the lens of who God is, not judging God by circumstances • Joy describes healing as an ongoing journey, with complete restoration coming in heaven • The family's testimony demonstrates how community support prevents isolation that compounds trauma You can hear the full story in Joy Tan-Chi Mendoza’s book When a Good God Allows Rape, and you can find Joy on instagram as @joytmendoza. If you're struggling with trauma or pain in your life, remember that real help is available, and healing is made possible through faith, forgiveness, and community. Greater is He that's in us than he that's in the world.  Let's connect! Instagram: @theundercoverpastor Facebook: @theundercoverpastor Tik Tok: @theundercoverpastor Youtube: @dalesutherlandundercoverpastor Website: theundercoverpastor.com

    32 min
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"Cops, Criminals & Christ" is a podcast delving into the intertwining worlds of law enforcement, crime, and faith. With Dale Sutherland, a former narcotics Sergeant turned pastor, it features gripping narratives and candid interviews exploring behind-the-scenes work of life undercover, as well as the transformative power of faith in the lives of both cops and criminals. Tune in for compelling insights and real-life stories that challenge, inspire, and reveal God’s grace available through it all, at the hands of its host and Dale’s daughter, Kristen Crew.

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  • Creator
    Dale Sutherland
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    21
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Cops, Criminals, and Christ
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