Hey Not The Face! Podcast

John S. Nash & Stephie Haynes

A newsletter and podcast covering the business of face-punching! heynottheface.substack.com

  1. 3d ago

    Did the Fertittas treat fighters better than TKO | Ep. 290

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at the latest developments in the UFC antitrust cases. We also discuss the latest happenings with TKO’s proposed Ali Act amendment bill. We weigh in on fighter complaints and the idea that the Fertittas treated fighters better than TKO. We even opine on whether TKO is damaging their brand by continuing to hold events in the MiddleEast which is actively under threat. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our outline as you listen: *We urge you to pick up a paid subscription, as it helps us keep the show going and allows you access to paywalled content* Episode 290 Outline * Are there any new updates to the UFC antitrust cases? * What’s going on with TKO’s Ali Act amendment bill? * Are we past the point of there being anything to prevent this bill from being passed? * The Canelo-Mbilli fight actually took place in Riyadh this weekend. What did you think of it actually happening? * Do you think they’ll move forward with the WWE event? * Do you think they damage their brand in any way by continuing to hold events in areas that are under threat? * What did you think of Jorge Masvidal’s latest complaints on UFC pay? * What did you think of Rory MacDonald’s take on how much the promotion has changed since the sale back in 2016? * Aljamain Sterling also weighed in on changes in the way UFC promotes fights. What did you think of his comments? * Fedor Emelianenko discussed UFC’s business practices in a recent interview. What are your thoughts on that? *Document 834, Document 835, and Minutes of the Court

    Did the Fertittas treat fighters better than TKO | Ep. 290
  2. Oct 23

    Does Zuffa Boxing offer anything to the sport? | Ep. 288

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at the latest developments in the UFC antitrust cases. We also discuss Zuffa Boxing’s troubles, including analyzing what Bob Arum had to say about them. We weigh in on Rampage’s claim that he made $7M for his 2007 fight with Chuck Liddell, and we opine on what the relationship between RAF and TKO/UFC might be. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our outline as you listen: *We urge you to pick up a paid subscription, as it helps us keep the show going and allows you access to paywalled content* Episode 288 Outline * Are there any new filings or updates in the UFC antitrust cases? * This week we saw Zuffa Boxing’s biggest signing, Shakur Stevenson, request and get his release from the promotion after just three months with them. What are your initial thoughts on this happening? * How important was Saudi money to Zuffa Boxing? * What do you think of him having his own brand promotion to book future fights? * David Benavidez signed with PBC, also stating that he will be starting his own brand promotion. Should he have stayed independent rather than signing with PBC, as Stevenson seems to be doing? * Boots Ennis and Joshua Kelly both signed deals with Matchroom this week, as well. Is this a sign that boxing is rebounding? * Bob Arum said that without Saudi money, Zuffa Boxing has no chance. Do you agree with him? * Does Zuffa Boxing offer anything to boxing at this point? * With Netflix’s big restructuring underway, what are your thoughts on their future with MVP? * Do you think they’re likely to ink future deals with TKO for WWE? * On social media, some people were sharing a clip of Rampage Jackson telling Sean Strickland that he was paid $7 million for his UFC 70 match against Chuck Liddell. Paulo Costa even commented on it. Why are you suspicious of this number from Rampage? * RAF just signed a new deal with a top industry distributor to broadcast their events live in bars, restaurants and casinos nationwide. Their quick rise to prominence seems to revolve around top level UFC stars competing in the promotion. Considering the UFC’s propensity to want a piece of any action their fighters may have, do you think there’s some link to the UFC? * Robelis Despaigne, who was released after an awful run in the UFC, then brought back to the promotion after KO’ing Junior dos Santos, is being allowed to bounce back to Karate Combat to defend his belt. Why do you think they allow that? * Former top UFC flyweight Mohammed Mokaev made a post this week on Twitter that said: “When fighters are getting phone calls from bosses telling them, “If you keep wrestling like that, you’re going to get cut,” then you’re basically telling fighters how you want them to fight. At what point does that cross the line? Isn’t that influencing the competition? And if you want to release a fighter, fine. But don’t then publicly say he was “hard to deal with” or create some b******t narrative about him that could damage his reputation and make other organizations think twice about signing him. Release fighters if you want. Just don’t try to damage their careers on the way out.” Do you have any thoughts on that? *827, 828, 829, 831, 832

    Does Zuffa Boxing offer anything to the sport? | Ep. 288
  3. Oct 16

    How important are UFC titles? | Ep. 287

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at the latest developments in the UFC antitrust cases. We also discuss Sean Strickland’s ongoing struggles with the getting paid properly. We weigh in on the current conversations about the importance of UFC titles (or lack thereof), and we examine why TKO is still moving forward with their events in the Middle East. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our outline as you listen: *We urge you to pick up a paid subscription, as it helps us keep the show going and allows you access to paywalled content* Episode 287 Outline * Are there any new filings or updates in the UFC antitrust cases? * At DWCS post-event presser, Dana White shot down Sean Strickland’s complaints saying that he just signed a new contract, but no one there asked White if the new contract was required for his title fight with Chimaev. Why would this be a good question? * Nassourdine Imavov had offered Strickland $500,000 out of his own pocket to fight him. How dumb is this? * Ben Fowlkes wrote an article for Uncrowned suggesting the UFC titles might not be so important anymore. Did you agree with his take? * Undefeated top 10 bantamweight Farid Basharat, who was 7-0 in the UFC, was not offered a new contract by the company. What do you make of this? * Even though multiple events have now been canceled in Saudi Arabia, TKO haven’t canceled Canelo vs M’Billi, nor the WWE’s upcoming Crown Jewel event. Meanwhile, Dana White says UFC 333 is still scheduled to take place in the UAE. What is going on with combat sports in that they’re the only ones not canceling events? * On the Ariel Helwani show, Alexander Hernandez said that he was disappointed in his interactions with fans. What did he say that you do agree with? *820, 821, 822, 823, 824

    How important are UFC titles? | Ep. 287
  4. Oct 12

    How UFC Fighters can help get another big antitrust settlement | Ep. 286

    This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at the latest developments in the UFC antitrust cases now that the evidentiary hearings have happened. We examine all the details closely and give our thoughts on what could happen next. We also discuss the wild game of chicken that Turki Alalshikh and Canelo Alvarez are playing, and who we think will blink first. In our final segment, we weigh in on Sean Strickland’s troubles with his UFC contract. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our outline as you listen: *We urge you to pick up a paid subscription, as it helps us keep the show going and allows you access to paywalled content* Episode 286 Outline * Discussion on the war in the Middle East and Canelo-Mbilli * Are there any new filings or updates in the UFC antitrust cases? * Sean Strickland, a sitting champion, has been offered significantly less money than his last purse to fight on the UFC 335 card. Can they do that contractually with a champion? * He also revealed that UFC forced him to sign a six-fight deal in order to get his title shot against Chimaev. What’s your take on that? * He claims to want to fight out his contract rapidly to go “box Jake Paul”. What are the restrictive measures the UFC can take to prevent that? * What do you think he should do? *Defendant’s Motion Regarding Procedural Framework

    How UFC Fighters can help get another big antitrust settlement | Ep. 286
  5. Oct 10

    Day 2: Details from UFC antitrust evidentiary hearing | Ep. 285

    Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, John sits down with our field reporter, Ed Vidri, who attended Friday’s evidentiary hearing for the UFC antitrust cases. Ed once again takes through an exacting recount of what happened in court on the second day of proceedings. He details the judge’s request that expert witnesses from both sides work together, the schedule going forward, how Endeavor may end up being antagonistic toward UFC/TKO, and changes in contracts. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our outline as you listen: *Today’s episode is FREE, but we urge you to pick up a paid subscription, as it helps us keep the show going and allows you access to paywalled content* Episode 285 Outline * Judge requests the experts work together * Judge referencing key messages in Le Case * Schedule going forward * The Judge really want this over * Endeavor has their own issues * Endeavor may end up antagonistic to UFC/TKO * Discussion of sanctions and remedies * Did Campbell use Signal? * Defendants argue Plaintiffs Le theories no longer work * Change in contracts *Minutes of the Court Thanks for stopping by the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d appreciate it if you could help us spread word of this episode by sharing it far and wide. The Hey Not the Face! Podcast is an independent publication. Please consider a paid subscription to keep up with our best work and learn how you can support us. With all forms of news media crumbling, especially in the combat sports space, we could really use your help. Thank you. We appreciate all of you. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit heynottheface.substack.com/subscribe

  6. Oct 9

    Details from UFC antitrust evidentiary hearing | Ep. 284

    Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, John sits down with our field reporter, Ed Vidri, who attended Thursday’s evidentiary hearing for the UFC antitrust cases. Ed takes extremely detailed notes, so we’re fortunate to have him relay all the goings on from the courtroom. Ed details a staggering amount of missing or deleted ROWIDs, the judge’s reprimands, and the defense team’s expert witness testimony. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our outline as you listen: *Today’s episode is FREE, but we urge you to pick up a paid subscription, as it helps us keep the show going and allows you access to paywalled content* Episode 284 Outline * Judge reprimands defendants for untimely filing * Defendant’s Expert Witness Adam Hart takes the stand * What is ROWID? * What does missing ROWID mean? * Auto Delete corporate settings * Kill Code/Phone Wipe * 23 phones reported by Defendants, 18 in custody * Carrier records * “Hundreds of thousands of ROWID missing/deleted” * Plaintiffs’ Witness Dr. Greenfield takes the stand * Judge wants them working together * Neither side trusts the other’s witness * Judge is done with this * Judge Boulware gives Defendants’ attorney the Death Gaze * Judge gives them two months *Procedural Framework *Status Report Concerning Certain Discovery Issues Thanks for stopping by the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d appreciate it if you could help us spread word of this episode by sharing it far and wide. The Hey Not the Face! Podcast is an independent publication. Please consider a paid subscription to keep up with our best work and learn how you can support us. With all forms of news media crumbling, especially in the combat sports space, we could really use your help. Thank you. We appreciate all of you. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit heynottheface.substack.com/subscribe

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