What do Christians today misunderstand about the devil—and why does it matter for how we understand the gospel? In this episode of The Faith (In)Forming Podcast, I sit down with theologian Philip Ziegler to explore a topic many churches avoid: the doctrine of the devil. Drawing from his book God’s Adversary and Ours, Ziegler offers a deeply biblical and theological framework for understanding Satan—not through speculation, but through the life and work of Jesus Christ. Together, we discuss: Why modern Christians often ignore or misuse the idea of the devilHow the Bible actually portrays Satan (hint: it’s about what he does, not what he is)Jesus’ temptation in the wilderness and what it reveals about evilThe meaning of exorcisms in the GospelsWhy the cross can be understood as Christ’s ultimate victory over the powers of evilHow ordinary Christian practices (prayer, worship, Scripture) are forms of spiritual resistanceThis conversation will expand your understanding of the gospel—not just as personal salvation, but as a cosmic story of Christ’s victory over sin, death, and the devil. If you’ve ever wondered: Is the devil real?What does the Bible actually teach about Satan?How should Christians think about spiritual warfare today?This episode is for you. 📚 Related ResourceIf this conversation resonates, you may also enjoy my book, The Mystery of Faith, where I explore how the gospel is far bigger, deeper, and more transformative than we often imagine. 🔔 Subscribe for More ConversationsThe Faith (In)Forming Podcast is a space for deep, thoughtful conversations on theology, culture, and the Christian life. 👉 Subscribe for more interviews with leading thinkers, pastors, and authors. ⏱️ Timestamps00:00 – Introduction: Why Talk About the Devil? 01:00 – What Led Philip Ziegler to Study This Topic 06:45 – Why the Church Stopped Talking About the Devil 14:50 – Avoidance vs. Weaponization 16:50 – Understanding the Devil Through Jesus 24:30 – The Temptation of Christ Explained 28:30 – Exorcism and the Meaning of “Life” 33:30 – Shalom, Chaos, and the Story of Scripture 35:20 – The Cross as the Ultimate Exorcism 40:00 – Expanding Our Vision of the Gospel 41:10 – What This Means for the Christian Life Today 49:00 – Ordinary Faith as Spiritual Resistance 🔍 Keywords (for search visibility)theology of the devil, is the devil real, satan in the bible, spiritual warfare explained, christian theology podcast, philip ziegler, doctrine of satan, jesus temptation in the wilderness, exorcism in the bible, meaning of the cross, gospel explained, reformed theology, christian podcast 2026