Change Leadership Conversations

Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta

Change Leadership Conversations explores the insights and practical experiences of thought leaders, change management practitioners, and industry change leaders on what it takes to lead and respond to change in today’s disruptive and fast-evolving world of work. Hosted by Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta, Change Leadership Advisor, Workshop Facilitator, and Founder of The Change Leadership, each episode brings grounded conversations and practical perspectives shaped by real-world experience. This podcast also goes hand in hand with the Change Leadership Conference held every spring in Toronto.

  1. The Change Leader Mindset, and Leading with Courage | Ep 19

    FEB 4

    The Change Leader Mindset, and Leading with Courage | Ep 19

    In this episode of Change Leadership Conversations, Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta is joined by David Donaldson for a wide-ranging conversation on courageous leadership, the evolving nature of change, and how to lead when the path isn’t yet visible.  With decades of experience leading leadership development and transformation initiatives across sectors, David shares powerful stories, from his early entrepreneurial days to his work in national safety, aviation, and leadership training to explore what it really means to lead change.  Together, they unpack the mindset shift from managing change to leading it, and why real change leadership requires vision, emotional intelligence, and the ability to sit with ambiguity.    In This Episode:  Why leading change means creating paths that don’t exist yet  How entrepreneurial thinking prepares leaders for disruption  What AI adoption reveals about resistance, readiness, and leadership mindsets  Why real communication goes far beyond emails and training plans    Guest Bio  David Donaldson is a leadership development expert, VP & Partner at LPI Canada. With a background in change management, entrepreneurship, and aviation safety, David brings a grounded yet visionary perspective to leadership and transformation. He currently works with a global learning and leadership institute and is known for his experiential facilitation and thought-provoking analogies.    Resources & Links:  Connect with David Donaldson on LinkedIn  Connect with Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta on LinkedIn  Learn more about the Change Leadership Training and Programs   Explore upcoming Change Leadership Conference events

    58 min
  2. Organizational Physics: The Science and Soul of Leading Change | Ep 18

    JAN 21

    Organizational Physics: The Science and Soul of Leading Change | Ep 18

    In this episode, Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta is joined by Rehana Rajwani, a transformation leader who brings a unique blend of science, systems thinking, and soul to how we lead change. Rehana, who currently leads Agile Learning and Transformation at BMO, shares how her background in engineering and agile coaching inspired her to develop the concept of Organizational Physics, a powerful framework that applies feedback loops, momentum, and systems thinking to drive meaningful change at scale. Together, they explore how to build momentum for change, lead through complexity, and shift from reactive to responsive cultures, all while staying human in an age of AI and disruption. In This Episode:  What “Organizational Physics” is, and how it reframes change leadership  How feedback loops and momentum shape how people respond to change  Why systems thinking can help organizations adapt more effectively  How Agile values and change leadership principles intersect  Why adaptive leadership is essential in the age of AI  Guest Bio:  Rehana Rajwani is an enterprise transformation leader, agile coach, and speaker with deep experience leading organizational change in complex environments. As Head of Agile Learning and Transformation at BMO, she focuses on building capability, culture, and mindset across the enterprise. With a background in engineering and a passion for systems thinking, Rehana is known for pioneering the concept of Organizational Physics, blending science and soul to create change that sticks.  Resources & Links:  Connect with Rehana Rajwani on LinkedIn  Learn more about Rehana’s book here  Connect with Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta on LinkedIn  Learn more about the Change Leadership Training and Programs   Download the free Agile & Change-Ready Team Guide

    51 min
  3. From Change Management to Change Enablement | Ep 17

    JAN 14

    From Change Management to Change Enablement | Ep 17

    In this episode of Change Leadership Conversations, Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta is joined by Blake Bell for a grounded and practical conversation on what it really takes to get buy-in for change at scale. Blake shares insights from over two decades of leading enterprise-wide change in complex organizations including Rogers, RBC, and now Manulife - where he’s helping to build a change-capable workforce of over 40,000 employees. Together, they explore the shift from change management to change enablement, and how organizations can create the conditions for people to not only adopt change - but lead it from wherever they sit. In this episode: Why getting buy-in starts with language, trust, and timingWhat the move from change management to change enablement means for leaders todayPractical ways to build enterprise-wide readiness and capability for changeHow to speak the language of leadership to gain executive support Guest Bio Blake Bell is the Global Head of Organizational Change Enablement at Manulife. With more than 20 years of experience leading change across financial services and telecommunications, Blake brings a grounded, people-first approach to transformation. He previously led change and communications at Rogers and RBC, and today focuses on enabling leaders and teams to thrive in disruption. He’s also a published author and pop culture enthusiast.   Resources & Links: Connect with Blake Bell on LinkedInConnect with Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta on LinkedInLearn more about the Change Leadership TrainingDownload the free Agile & Change-Ready Team Guide Subscribe & Review If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to rate, subscribe, and leave a review. It helps others discover the show, and we appreciate your support!

    57 min
  4. How to Build a Change Career, Navigate Chaos, and Lead with AI | Ep 16

    JAN 7

    How to Build a Change Career, Navigate Chaos, and Lead with AI | Ep 16

    In this episode, Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta sits with Etonia Collier, a dynamic and deeply insightful change management leader and Director, with over a decade of experience across fintech, financial services, and education. Etonia brings a refreshingly honest and practical lens to what it really means to lead change, especially in today’s chaotic and fast-paced world. From building a change career without formal credentials to using AI to be more human, Etonia walks us through the real-life strategies that make change leaders effective, adaptable, and resilient. Whether you’re new to the field or deep in the trenches of transformation, this episode will reignite your passion for change leadership and offer grounded, actionable insights you can apply right away. We explore: How Etonia transitioned into change management without a “perfect resume” and practical ways to build experienceThe importance of curiosity, empathy, and co-creation in influencing stakeholdersNavigating burnout, resistance, and the emotional toll of changeHow AI is not replacing our work, it’s reshaping it so we can go deeper Guest Bio Etonia Collier is an experienced Change Management Lead with over 10 years of expertise driving organizational transformation across the financial and technology sectors. Currently leading change at a major fintech, she’s passionate about helping people adapt, grow, and thrive through change. Beyond her corporate work, Etonia has taught Change Management and Economics at McMaster University and Centennial College, earning recognition for her ability to translate complex concepts into engaging, practical learning experiences. Links & Resources: Connect with Etonia on LinkedInConnect with Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta on LinkedInLearn more about the Change Leadership Training Explore our courses, conference, and community: thechangeleadership.com

    56 min
  5. Collaborating with the Enemy When Leading Change | Ep 15

    12/29/2025

    Collaborating with the Enemy When Leading Change | Ep 15

    In this powerful and thought-provoking conversation, Adam Kahane joins Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta to explore what it truly means to collaborate in today’s divided, complex, and fast-changing world. Adam is one of the world’s most respected voices on systems transformation and collaboration. He is the Co-Founder of Reos Partners, and author of multiple influential books including Solving Tough Problems, Power and Love, Transformative Scenario Planning, and Collaborating with the Enemy, which is the focus of this episode. Together, Adam and Yvonne explore: Why he rewrote the second edition of Collaborating with the EnemyThe growing challenge of “enemy-fication” in workplaces and societyWhat “stretch collaboration” looks like and why it’s crucial todayMisconceptions about collaboration, resistance, and leadershipHow leaders can navigate high-conflict, high-complexity environmentsWhat it means to take responsibility for change, starting with yourself This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating conflict, resistance, or polarization while trying to move change forward. Guest Bio Adam Kahane is a pioneering facilitator of processes through which business, government, and civil society leaders collaborate to address their most important and intractable challenges. He is a Co-Founder of Reos Partners and the best-selling author of Solving Tough Problems, Power and Love, Transformative Scenario Planning, Collaborating with the Enemy, Facilitating Breakthrough, and Everyday Habits for Transforming Systems. Resources & Links: Connect with Adam Kahane on LinkedInCollaborating with the Enemy book hereConnect with Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta on LinkedInLearn more about the Change Leadership Training

    53 min
  6. How HR Can Build a Change-Ready Culture | Ep 14

    12/17/2025

    How HR Can Build a Change-Ready Culture | Ep 14

    In this episode of Change Leadership Conversations, Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta sits down with Elizabeth McSavaney, Head of HR for Zurich Canada and leader of HR Transformation for North America. With over 25 years of experience across insurance, tech, government, and consumer goods, Elizabeth shares wisdom from the frontlines of leading transformation, and how HR, leadership, and change are evolving in today’s high-pressure, high-disruption world. This isn’t your typical HR conversation. We explore: How to build influence and earn a real seat at the tableWhy resilience and recovery cycles matter in high-performance workplacesWhat it really takes to create a change-ready cultureThe evolving role of HR as a strategic business enablerHow to address resistance to AIWhether you’re in HR, leading change, or executive leadership, this is a masterclass in what it means to lead with both heart and strategy. Guest Bio Elizabeth McSavaney is Head of HR for Zurich Canada and leads HR Transformation for North America. A senior HR executive, who has led people strategy and transformation across insurance, consumer goods, tech, and public sectors. Elizabeth is responsible for guiding initiatives in workforce planning, leadership development, and future-focused HR. As well as governance expertise that reflects her commitment to strategic leadership and community impact. Resources & Links: Connect with Elizabeth McSavaney on LinkedInConnect with Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta on LinkedInLearn more about the Change Leadership TrainingDownload the free Agile & Change-Ready Team Guide

    49 min
  7. Responsible AI in Healthcare, Education, Leading Change and Beyond | Ep 13

    12/10/2025

    Responsible AI in Healthcare, Education, Leading Change and Beyond | Ep 13

    In this powerful episode of Change Leadership Conversations, Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta sits down with one of Canada’s foremost experts on the intersection of AI and healthcare, Dr. Muhammad Mamdani. With over 600 published studies and leadership roles across Unity Health Toronto, Ontario Health, and the University of Toronto, Dr. Mamdani brings real-world insight into how AI can be responsibly developed and deployed to improve outcomes in life-and-death scenarios. We explore:• The practical realities of applying AI• How AI is disrupting education, critical thinking, and the world• What “responsible AI” really looks like, and why it’s urgent• How to manage AI hallucinations in critical contexts like healthcare, and beyond• Building trust and engaging frontline stakeholders for adoption and co-creation Whether you’re a change leader, innovator, or just curious about the impact of AI, this conversation will spark ideas and deepen your understanding of the change we’re all navigating. Guest Bio:Dr. Muhammad Mamdani is one of Canada’s leading voices on AI in healthcare. He serves as Clinical Lead for AI at Ontario Health, VP of Data Science at Unity Health Toronto, and Director of T-CAIREM at the University of Toronto. Dr. Mamdani’s work bridges advanced analytics with real-world clinical decision-making. He’s a Faculty Affiliate at the Vector Institute, an Affiliate Scientist at IC/ES, and was recognized as one of Canada’s Top 40 Under 40. His team received the national Solventum Health Care Innovation Team Award. Resources & Links: Connect with Dr. Muhammad Mamdani on LinkedInConnect with Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta on LinkedInLearn more about the Change Leadership Training Brought to You By:The Change Leadership – Your go-to ecosystem for future-ready change leadership training, resources, and the annual Change Leadership Conference. Learn more at TheChangeLeadership.com Subscribe & ReviewIf you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to rate, subscribe, and leave a review. It helps others discover the show, and we appreciate your support!

    1h 3m
  8. Leading Enterprise Wide Change | Ep 12

    12/03/2025

    Leading Enterprise Wide Change | Ep 12

    In this episode of Change Leadership Conversations, host Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta sits down with Jeff Fraser, global change executive, to discuss what it truly takes to lead enterprise-wide change across large organizations. Jeff takes us behind the scenes of some of the most complex change initiatives, from driving large-scale digital and facilities transformation to aligning hundreds of workstreams across global markets.We also talk candidly about what it really takes to earn influence at the executive table, Together, we explore: Jeff’s unconventional career journey into change leadership and change managementWhat it means to lead change at scale, and the role of leaders in the change processHow to measure ROI Guest Bio:Jeff Fraser is a dynamic global change executive with deep cross-industry experience in Financial Services, Energy, and Professional Services. He has spearheaded global and enterprise-wide change initiatives with oversight of ~$5B in change budgets for digital adoption, regulatory compliance, and operational excellence mandates. He is recognized for building award-winning teams, advising C-suite leaders, and consistently driving tangible business results. Resources & Links: Connect with Jeff Fraser on LinkedInConnect with Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta on LinkedInLearn more about the Change Leadership TrainingDownload the free Agile & Change-Ready Team GuideBrought to You By:The Change Leadership – Your go-to ecosystem for future-ready change leadership training, resources, and the annual Change Leadership Conference. Learn more a TheChangeLeadership.com

    44 min

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Change Leadership Conversations explores the insights and practical experiences of thought leaders, change management practitioners, and industry change leaders on what it takes to lead and respond to change in today’s disruptive and fast-evolving world of work. Hosted by Yvonne Ruke Akpoveta, Change Leadership Advisor, Workshop Facilitator, and Founder of The Change Leadership, each episode brings grounded conversations and practical perspectives shaped by real-world experience. This podcast also goes hand in hand with the Change Leadership Conference held every spring in Toronto.