The Compliance Advantage

Ross Ronan

Welcome to "The Compliance Advantage," (formerly the Compliance Leadership Lounge) hosted by Ross Ronan, a seasoned luminary in the healthcare compliance sphere. This podcast serves as your premier destination for unravelling the complexities of healthcare compliance, blending Ross' extensive background in nursing, legal expertise, and two decades of compliance experience. Each episode is a deep dive into the crucial interplay between regulatory compliance and healthcare operations, featuring candid conversations with industry leaders, government officials, and the minds shaping today's healthcare landscape.Ross, known for his dynamic approach to compliance as both a shield and a strategic partner, guides listeners through the intricacies of creating a culture of compliance within healthcare organizations. Whether tackling administrative challenges, civil and criminal matters, or fostering equitable practices, Ross' insights ensure listeners are well-equipped to navigate the ever-changing healthcare compliance environment.Join us on "The Compliance Advantage" for a journey into the heart of healthcare compliance, where integrity, equity, and leadership converge to redefine the business of medicine. Subscribe and become part of our community dedicated to excellence and innovation in healthcare compliance.

  1. 1d ago

    Compliance Services, Part 1: How Does Outsourced Healthcare Compliance Work? (with Devin Dalton)

    Send us Fan Mail Part 1 of a two-part series on how compliance services work. Most healthcare leaders picture a consultant who hands over a binder and walks away. On this episode of The Compliance Advantage, host Ross Ronan and Devin Dalton, VP of Client Development at Marwood Group, lay out a different model: outsourced compliance as an extension of your team, not a report that sits on a shelf. They start where most executives start: a compliance risk assessment every two to three years, and the deeper look Ronan calls Risk Assessment Plus+, which adds a third-party coding and billing audit on top of the gap analysis. Ronan explains why an annual revenue cycle review is not the same thing: a code that is 100% wrong can get washed out to a 5% error rate when averaged against everything else, but the Office of Inspector General and the Department of Justice look at that one code. From there the conversation turns to what good looks like. A 100-day plan becomes the roadmap, and an outsourced compliance officer stands up the program from day one, owns the compliance function, and partners with HR, quality, and operations without taking them over. Ronan and Dalton walk through the client profile that fits best, higher government payer mix and real exposure, and are candid about telling a prospect when the answer is no. The throughline is the one Ronan returns to often: compliance is a strategic investment and a competitive advantage to budget for, not a cost to minimize.  Devin Dalton is VP of Client Development at Marwood Group. She leads business development strategy and client relationships, and she is on every one of the firm's business development calls, where the first question is always about the prospect's pain points, not the firm's pitch. In this episode she and Ross Ronan break down how outsourced healthcare compliance works, how the firm qualifies a fit by revenue and government payer mix, and who the model is built for. https://www.linkedin.com/in/devin-dalton-a3b96b1b2/ Connect with Ross  LinkedIn: Ross RonanPodcast Show Page: The Compliance AdvantageRoss' Company: Ronan Healthcare Compliance

    Compliance Services, Part 1: How Does Outsourced Healthcare Compliance Work? (with Devin Dalton)
  2. Oct 22

    Compliance Due Diligence: A Cost or a Value Driver? (with Amanda Doran)

    Send us Fan Mail Amanda Doran, Chief Compliance Officer, Healthcare Portfolio Operations at Waud Capital Partners, joins Ross Ronan on The Compliance Advantage to talk about compliance in healthcare mergers and acquisitions and about building the leaders who run it. Amanda has spent more than 20 years in healthcare compliance across emergency medicine, post-acute care, and ambulatory surgery, and now mentors compliance officers across a private equity portfolio. She makes the case for growing compliance officers into compliance executives who understand the business, and she offers direct advice to CEOs and boards on hiring the right leader, where personality, judgment, and the ability to build trust matter as much as the resume. A compliance officer who says no to everything loses credibility, so the goal is a leader who can have frank conversations and still move the business forward. On the deal side, Amanda explains what she looks for when vetting an acquisition target, and why a compliance-minded leader can matter more than a complete set of policies. When a company prepares to sell, the picture flips. A functioning program with recurring audits, remediated findings, and documented improvement lowers the perceived risk for a buyer, and that shows up in the purchase price and the escrow. Amanda and Ross also dig into a shift the field has been working toward for years: compliance as a strategic partner rather than a police function. The throughline is practical. Compliance built early and led well becomes an advantage a company carries into its next deal.  Amanda Doran is the Chief Compliance Officer, Healthcare Portfolio Operations at Waud Capital Partners.  She has spent more than 20 years in healthcare compliance, including Chief Compliance Officer roles at US Acute Care Solutions and Global Medical Response, and 15 years in compliance across Envision Healthcare's sectors.  In this episode she talks with Ross about compliance due diligence, the sell-side value of a strong program, and how she mentors compliance officers across a private equity portfolio.  https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-yoh-doran/  Connect with Ross  LinkedIn: Ross RonanPodcast Show Page: The Compliance AdvantageRoss' Company: Ronan Healthcare Compliance

    Compliance Due Diligence: A Cost or a Value Driver? (with Amanda Doran)
  3. Oct 8

    Corporate Integrity Agreement: Preferred Partner or Liability? (with Jillian Marcus)

    Send us Fan Mail Most healthcare operators hear "Corporate Integrity Agreement" and picture a punishment. Jillian Marcus, Chief Compliance Officer at Envision Healthcare, found the opposite. In this episode of The Compliance Advantage, she joins Ross Ronan to explain how a Corporate Integrity Agreement (CIA) turned her organization into a trusted, preferred partner with the Office of Inspector General (OIG), and how that same trust carried into stronger relationships with the hospitals and health systems she serves. Jillian started as a litigator, moved into healthcare law, and spent years as a general counsel before Ross introduced her to compliance. She shares why the government wants compliance to sit apart from legal, reporting straight to the CEO and the board, and how her CEO's "first team" idea reshaped the way she leads a large compliance team. The conversation gets practical fast. Jillian breaks down how to make compliance approachable instead of rigid, why the right compliance officer is a hard hire to get wrong, and how the government's own audit priorities (UPIC, RAC, CMS, and the monthly OIG work plan) hand you a roadmap for where to look. She also makes the money case plainly. With the Department of Justice (DOJ) reporting $5.7 billion in recoveries for 2025, most of it healthcare False Claims Act cases, a small investment in the program now protects the profits you already earned. A grounded look at compliance as a strategic advantage, not a cost center. About the guest: Jillian Marcus is the Chief Compliance Officer at Envision Healthcare. She started as a litigator, moved into healthcare law, and spent years as a general counsel before stepping into compliance leadership, where she now runs a large compliance team. Connect with Jillian on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillian-marcus-07200a6/ Connect with Ross  LinkedIn: Ross RonanPodcast Show Page: The Compliance AdvantageRoss' Company: Ronan Healthcare Compliance

    Corporate Integrity Agreement: Preferred Partner or Liability? (with Jillian Marcus)
  4. Sep 10

    The Investment Deep Dive, Part 2: What Does Compliance Investment Actually Buy You?

    Send us Fan Mail Most CEOs ask Ross Ronan the same question: how much should we spend on compliance? In Part 2 of The Investment Deep Dive on The Compliance Advantage, Ross moves from the HCCA and SCCE benchmarking data into real boardroom scenarios and shows there is no magic number. There is a starting point, a budget you set, and a program you actually run. He walks through what the data says for a $75 million organization with 1,500 employees, how the picture shifts at $200 million and 4,000 employees, and why the two largest line items are almost always the compliance officer and auditing and monitoring. He explains why private equity sponsors tend to lean into compliance once they see the benchmarks, since the Department of Justice and the Office of Inspector General have made their expectations for healthcare investors clear. He covers what payers, including Medicare under the Affordable Care Act, assume about your program before they pay a claim, and how compliance partners with every department from human resources to revenue cycle. The throughline is simple: a strong compliance investment starts with the right compliance executive, someone who can be a strategic partner, run the program, and understand the business. Build from there and the program scales with the company.  Connect with Ross  LinkedIn: Ross RonanPodcast Show Page: The Compliance AdvantageRoss' Company: Ronan Healthcare Compliance

    The Investment Deep Dive, Part 2: What Does Compliance Investment Actually Buy You?
  5. Aug 6

    How a Compliance Program Raises Your Valuation (with Jerry Chang)

    Send us Fan Mail Most healthcare executives treat compliance as a cost line. Jerry Chang, Managing Director and Partner at Stout, sees it differently from the valuation seat. On this episode of The Compliance Advantage, host Ross Ronan and Jerry walk through how a strong compliance program changes what a business is actually worth. Jerry has spent about 30 years valuing hospitals, health systems, medical groups, surgery centers, and dialysis centers, and he has testified roughly 20 times as an expert witness. He breaks compliance value into three jobs a valuation does: measuring value, protecting value, and recovering value. The throughline is risk perception. When a buyer sees a weak compliance program, that perception shows up as a higher discount rate or a lower multiple, which pulls the price down. Ross and Jerry trade real diligence stories, including a dialysis center sale where undisclosed compliance issues triggered a claim that the buyer overpaid, and a deal that nearly collapsed when an Anti-Kickback problem surfaced at the last stage. They cover fair market value and commercial reasonableness, why a 10-year-old valuation sitting in a file cabinet is a red flag, and why sell-side compliance diligence pays off before a buyer ever asks. Jerry's rule sums it up: go slow to go fast. Jerry Chang is Managing Director and Partner at Stout, based in the firm's Atlanta office. He has spent about 30 years in healthcare valuation and financial advisory, valuing hospitals, health systems, medical groups, surgery centers, and dialysis centers, and he has testified roughly 20 times as an expert witness in federal court, state court, and arbitration. On this episode, Jerry shows Ross how compliance moves real numbers in a deal, from fair market value and commercial reasonableness to the diligence findings that change a multiple. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jerrymchang/ Connect with Ross  LinkedIn: Ross RonanPodcast Show Page: The Compliance AdvantageRoss' Company: Ronan Healthcare Compliance

    How a Compliance Program Raises Your Valuation (with Jerry Chang)
  6. Jul 23

    The Day After You Close, the Compliance Bar Goes Up (with Baxter Lee)

    Send us Fan Mail When a private equity firm closes a healthcare deal, the compliance and security bar rises the next morning, whether the new owner is ready or not. On this episode of The Compliance Advantage, host Ross Ronan talks with Baxter Lee, President of Clearwater, about why so many programs fall behind the moment growth speeds up. Baxter has spent his career on both sides of the table, in investment banking and private equity, then as an operator and CFO, and now leading Clearwater through its own growth from 30 to more than 270 people. He explains why a diligence report that sits on a shelf protects no one, and why compliance, privacy, and security only work when they run as one continuous program that is tested, not just documented. Ross and Baxter dig into the real cost of waiting until a breach happens, patient trust as an asset, and why building the foundation early is cheaper than cleaning it up later. Done right, compliance and security are not a cost. They are how a growing healthcare company protects its value and earns the trust to keep growing. Topics covered in this episode: Why a diligence report on a shelf protects no one, and what an actioned program looks like insteadHow closing a deal raises the compliance bar overnight in the eyes of the Office for Civil RightsWhy privacy, compliance, and security have to run as one continuous, tested programWhat a breach really costs compared to investing in prevention up frontHow an M&A playbook keeps a roll-up from outgrowing its own controlsWhy patient trust is an asset that drives where people take their care Connect with Baxter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/baxter-lee-9950086/ Baxter Lee is President of Clearwater, a healthcare cybersecurity and compliance firm. He came up through investment banking and private equity before moving to the operator side, and he has helped grow Clearwater from 30 employees to more than 270, stepping into the president role after serving as CFO. In this episode he and Ross break down how compliance, privacy, and security become a growth advantage when they scale with a healthcare company instead of trailing behind it. Connect with Ross  LinkedIn: Ross RonanPodcast Show Page: The Compliance AdvantageRoss' Company: Ronan Healthcare Compliance

    The Day After You Close, the Compliance Bar Goes Up (with Baxter Lee)

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Welcome to "The Compliance Advantage," (formerly the Compliance Leadership Lounge) hosted by Ross Ronan, a seasoned luminary in the healthcare compliance sphere. This podcast serves as your premier destination for unravelling the complexities of healthcare compliance, blending Ross' extensive background in nursing, legal expertise, and two decades of compliance experience. Each episode is a deep dive into the crucial interplay between regulatory compliance and healthcare operations, featuring candid conversations with industry leaders, government officials, and the minds shaping today's healthcare landscape.Ross, known for his dynamic approach to compliance as both a shield and a strategic partner, guides listeners through the intricacies of creating a culture of compliance within healthcare organizations. Whether tackling administrative challenges, civil and criminal matters, or fostering equitable practices, Ross' insights ensure listeners are well-equipped to navigate the ever-changing healthcare compliance environment.Join us on "The Compliance Advantage" for a journey into the heart of healthcare compliance, where integrity, equity, and leadership converge to redefine the business of medicine. Subscribe and become part of our community dedicated to excellence and innovation in healthcare compliance.