Shift & Thrive: CEO Insights on Driving Change

Natalie Nathanson
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In today’s business world change is the only constant, and mastering transformation is the ultimate key to success. Welcome to Shift & Thrive! Each week, Host Natalie Nathanson will bring you conversations with CEOs, who delve into how they successfully drove critical change in their organization. This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.

  1. The Hardest Part of Scaling: Learning to Let Go - Ahmad Jadallah - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 103

    2d ago

    The Hardest Part of Scaling: Learning to Let Go - Ahmad Jadallah - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 103

    What's the hardest leadership skill for a founder to learn, and why does almost everyone get it wrong at first? In this episode of Shift & Thrive, host Natalie Nathanson talks with Ahmad Jadallah, Founder and CEO of PanBio, an AI-native platform that helps governments and hospitals localize clinical genetic testing and makes genomic data more accessible for researchers worldwide. Ahmad opens up about his unconventional path from medicine to startup leadership, the early years of doing every job himself, and the moment he realized he had to delegate or stall out. He also reflects on staying close to clients no matter how much the company grows, and the childhood influences that shaped his drive toward science and discovery in the first place. Takeaways: ~ Applied research, the kind tied directly to industry and market validation, moves faster and creates more real world impact than research pursued for its own sake. ~ When entering a hard market, look outside your comfort zone. PanBio found product markets fit not in the US, but in the Middle East and Central Asia. ~ In highly regulated or technical spaces, incentives need to be overwhelming. Make an offer your prospective client genuinely cannot refuse. ~ The hardest part of founder growth is learning to delegate. Early hires were brought on to tell the founder what to do in their domain, not the other way around. ~ Two things matter most in early stage leadership: build fast and stay close to your clients. ~ Founders should stay personally involved with their earliest and most important clients, long after the deal closes. ~ Education that connects science and math to real world impact early in a child's life can shape a lifelong passion for research and discovery Quote of the Show: ~ “Every founder knows that at first, you need to do everything. But the worst thing you can do is get stuck there. It’s very important as you grow your company to really learn how to delegate. Today we are much faster, much more efficient than the early years when I used to do everything.” - Ahmad Jadallah Links~ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahmad-jadallah/~ Website: https://pan.bio/ Ways to Tune In:~ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb ~ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 ~ Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change ~ iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 ~ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797  ~ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClf9QxGUxZw_Sv8_4bZP34Q  This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.  Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com

    39 min
  2. From Solo Founder to Investor - Paul Oggelsby - Shift & Thrive - Investor Spotlight - Episode # 101

    Jun 18

    From Solo Founder to Investor - Paul Oggelsby - Shift & Thrive - Investor Spotlight - Episode # 101

    What does it take to build a business so well structured that it could run without you? In this Investor Spotlight episode of Shift & Thrive, host Natalie Nathanson talks with Paul Oggelsby, a former IT managed services CEO and Founder, who exited his business in 2022, and now is an investor, chairman, and advisor. Paul shares how a single Reddit post connected him with thousands of struggling founders, the impact the book Traction had on how he ran his company, and why building toward an eventual exit, whether or not you ever plan to sell, leads to stronger decision making. In a special Shift & Thrive exclusive, Paul also announces his newest venture, Maturable.io, born from the same blind spot he faced running his own company and later saw in nearly every founder he advised: the lack of real benchmarking data to know where a business truly stands. He built the platform to close exactly that gap for SaaS leaders. Takeaways: ~ Most blind spots come from isolation, not incompetence. Surround yourself with peers or advisors who can see what you can't. ~ Without a real benchmark, you're guessing. Compare your business against others in your space to know where you actually stand. ~ Build your business with the exit in mind, even if you never plan to sell. It forces stronger systems and leadership. ~ Know which pillars of your business are strong and which are weak, then put your energy into closing the weak ones. ~ Adopt a proven framework, such as Traction or EOS, to simplify your fundamentals and align your leadership team. ~ Lead with data, not opinion, when working with technical leaders. Evidence builds trust faster than instinct alone. ~ Expect resistance to obvious fixes. Changing how a leader operates often takes months of repeated, patient guidance. Quote of the Show: ~ "Everyone's fundamentally got the same issues. No matter the market you're in, everyone's fighting the same battle, and it's so much easier if you surround yourself with people on the same journey." - Paul Oggelsby Links: ~ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oggelsby/details/experience/  ~ Maturable.io Website: https://maturable.io/  Ways to Tune In: ~ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb  ~ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813  ~ Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change  ~ iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501  ~ Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797   ~ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClf9QxGUxZw_Sv8_4bZP34Q  This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.  Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com

    36 min
  3. From Building AI Into How You Work, Not What You Sell - Tameem Hourani - Shift & Thrive - Episode #100

    Jun 10

    From Building AI Into How You Work, Not What You Sell - Tameem Hourani - Shift & Thrive - Episode #100

    What does it take for a lifelong engineer to build a high-growth services firm on a foundation of radical transparency and relentless speed? In this episode of Shift & Thrive, host Natalie Nathanson sits down with Tameem Hourani, Founder and CEO of RapDev, a firm that helps enterprises modernize their technology environments with speed, automation, and best-in-class implementations. Named Datadog's Partner of the Year four times, RapDev has grown to over 130 people since its founding in 2019. Tameem shares the hard lessons of scaling sales as a technical founder, why he wired transparency into RapDev from day one, and how bold hiring decisions made with less money in the bank than a new employee's salary turned out to be the best bets he ever made. He also breaks down how RapDev thinks about AI, not as a standalone offering but as a way of working woven into every part of the business. Takeaways: ~ Recognize when your automation mindset has limits. Sales requires human bandwidth at scale; identify the ceiling you're hitting by looking at deal volume per quarter, not just revenue. ~ Stay on the front lines as a founder-seller. Your credibility comes from having lived your customer's problems; no workflow replaces that context. ~ Make AI a way of working, not a product or a job title. Embed it across sales, engineering, and project management before trying to sell it to customers. ~ Hire ahead of your comfort zone when you know someone is the right person. Staying conservative with headcount will limit your growth faster than the financial risk will. ~ Give every employee a financial stake in the outcome. Ownership creates accountability without requiring top-down enforcement. ~ Lead with transparency, especially on big decisions. Keeping investors, lawyers, and leadership conversations in the open builds trust and eliminates surprises. ~ Soften directness without losing honesty. The hardest edges of early-career confidence often slow you down more than they help. Quote of the Show: “The success of building a company comes from not having a safety net and pushing your comfort zone, and never getting comfortable. If you stay comfortable and you're staying conservative, you're never gonna grow. You're never gonna push the boundaries. ” - Tameem HouraniLinks: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tameem-hourani/ Website: https://www.rapdev.io/ Email: tameem@rapdev.io Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797   This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.  Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com

    41 min
  4. Rethinking the GTM Playbook for the Modern Era - The Best of Season 2 - Shift & Thrive - # 099

    Jun 3

    Rethinking the GTM Playbook for the Modern Era - The Best of Season 2 - Shift & Thrive - # 099

    Is your go-to-market strategy built for today's buyers, or are you still relying on playbooks that no longer work? In this special Best of Season 2 compilation, Natalie Nathanson brings together some of the most impactful conversations from founders, CMOs, operators, and investors who are redefining growth in the age of AI. It pulls together some of the season's most brilliant GTM strategists, fractional CMOs, and venture capitalists to discuss why the old playbooks are dead, how to uncover the true story behind your data, and what it takes to compete in an increasingly crowded and rapidly evolving market. Throughout the episode, guests share practical lessons on defining the right ICP, understanding the business impact behind pipeline metrics, and uncovering customer insights that data alone can't reveal. They also explore how organizations are scaling marketing teams with AI, leveraging untraditional tactics like influencer pods and community-led growth, and using category creation to establish market leadership. Whether you're a founder, CEO, marketer, or revenue leader, this episode offers actionable strategies for building a smarter, more modern go-to-market engine. Takeaways: Not all pipeline is good pipeline. Generating revenue opportunities means little if they are coming from the wrong ICP and leading to poor retention.Customer research should go beyond the dashboard. Speaking directly with users can uncover insights that data alone might miss.Adopt a test-and-iterate mindset. The strongest go-to-market shifts often start with small experiments before evolving into larger strategic changes.Rethink traditional demand generation channels. B2B influencer networks, community-building, and free tools are becoming powerful alternatives to expensive paid channels.Category creation doesn't happen by accident. Leaders must intentionally name, frame, and claim their market position if they want to become the category leader.Scale teams thoughtfully in the age of AI. Many leaders are finding they can accomplish more with smaller teams, strategic freelancers, and AI-enabled workflows.Break down the wall between sales and marketing. Giving marketers exposure to the sales process creates stronger alignment, better leads, and more effective go-to-market execution.Quote of the Show: “If you are an executive in the room, you have to understand ICP. It's not a marketing job, a sales job, or a customer success job. Understanding your top segments is an executive responsibility.” — Sangram VajreLinks: Sangram’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sangramvajre/ David’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidaxler  Scott’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rsbrown7/ Stephen’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-ochs-mba-1681ba19/ Kat’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kat-wendelstadt-gtm/ Cheryl’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheryljordanaguilera/ Elena’s LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/elena-gantvarg-1a9423 Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClf9QxGUxZw_Sv8_4bZP34Q This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.  Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com

    31 min
  5. Bottling the Founder Sale: From Visionary to Scalable Engine - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 098

    May 27

    Bottling the Founder Sale: From Visionary to Scalable Engine - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 098

    Scaling out of founder-led sales is one of the most critical, yet deeply misunderstood transitions any B2B company will ever face. In the early days, no one sells the vision better than the founder. The passion, the relationships, and the storytelling instinct all lives with the person who built the thing. But as companies mature, the scrappy hustle that fueled early growth eventually stops working, and that inflection point demands a different approach entirely.  In this special compilation episode of Shift & Thrive, host Natalie Nathanson brings together some of the sharpest voices ever featured on the show to unpack the necessity of early founder sales, the often-overlooked difference between founder market fit and product market fit, and the principle that separates companies that scale well from those that stall: the goal is to bottle the founder's magic, not replace it with a professional sales hire and hope for the best. Takeaways: ~ Every founder must learn to sell, whether it comes naturally or not. Discomfort in early sales is temporary; the cost of avoiding it entirely is far greater. ~ Founder market fit and product market fit are not the same thing. Closing deals yourself does not mean a sales team will replicate that success without intentional structure and knowledge transfer. ~ Bottling the founder sale means teaching your sellers to become storytellers. Sellers who lead with features lose; those who learn to communicate your origin, mission, and vision the way a founder would win. ~ Heroic efforts get you to the first phase of growth, but they cannot scale. Transitioning to process, data, and smart infrastructure is essential before those early tactics stop working entirely. ~ Folklore debt accumulates when companies hold onto stories of past success that no longer apply. Leaders must actively replace those narratives with ones that reflect where the company is going, not where it has been. ~ RevOps and sales infrastructure should follow revenue signals, not precede them. Knowing when you actually need that investment, and going fractional until you do, prevents costly over-hiring and organizational drag. Quote of the Show: “ There are periods of time that are clearly different. What are the stories that are associated with each one of those? I think it's important for companies to celebrate those stories. You don't want to dismiss them or just get rid of them. You have to have a trophy case where you take that great founder story or the heroic campaign that got us our first 10 million. You put it in the trophy case and then you move on and find the stories about how you become a $250 million company or the $500 million company.” - Kerry Cunningham Links: Sanjay Manandhar: linkedin.com/in/sanjaymanandhar Saket Saurabh: linkedin.com/in/saketsPete Martin: linkedin.com/in/pete-martin-b2199334 Kerry Cunningham: linkedin.com/in/kerrycunningham Jacki Leahy: linkedin.com/in/jackileahy Richard Walker: linkedin.com/in/quikformsceo Haseeb Budhani: linkedin.com/in/budhani Tameem Hourani: linkedin.com/in/tameem-hourani  Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.  Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com

    32 min
  6. Why B2B Deals Stall and How to Fix It - Paul Terry - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 97

    May 20

    Why B2B Deals Stall and How to Fix It - Paul Terry - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 97

    What does it actually take to lead a commercial transformation before anyone else believes in it, and what happens when the biggest threat to closing a deal is not your competitor, but your buyer's fear of being wrong? In this episode of Shift & Thrive, host Natalie Nathanson sits down with Paul Terry, global go-to-market leader, advisor, and investor at Tech Operators, who brings over 25 years of experience building and scaling international sales teams. Paul shares the hard-earned lessons from leading one of the earliest social selling rollouts at Forrester Research in 2012, before LinkedIn Sales Navigator was even a household name. He and Natalie dig into the evolution of B2B buyer behavior, the FOMU (fear of messing up) phenomenon that is quietly killing deals, and the practical frameworks Paul uses today when advising early and mid-stage tech founders on ICP, international expansion, and go-to-market clarity. Candid, grounded, and full of real examples, this conversation is one every GTM leader and founder needs to hear. Takeaways:  Pre-wire your frontline managers before rolling out any change initiative. They are the culture carriers closest to your team, and without their buy-in, even the best ideas will land in silence.Overcommunicate through multiple channels and formats until it feels repetitive to you. The audience receiving the message needs far more repetition than the leader driving the change.Recognize that today's buyers fear making the wrong call far more than they fear inaction. Shift your sales motion at the right moment from urgency-driving to comfort-building, and use social proof, peer dinners, and transparent risk conversations to help buyers feel safe saying yes.Narrow your ICP down to a specific wedge before expanding. Targeting everyone is functionally the same as targeting no one, and trying to go broad too soon is one of the most common and costly go-to-market mistakes founders make.Build product-market fit and repeatability in a core market before expanding internationally. Have a proven motion, a defined ICP, and a scalable operation before paying the tax of internationalization.When entering new markets globally, standardize your operations at the corporate level but hire and trust local expertise for that last-mile cultural execution. One size will lose you business; total localization will prevent scale.The fuse is lit the day you say yes. Whether you are joining a PE-backed company or any scaling business, leaders are brought in to fix something, and the expectation for change starts immediately. Quote of the Show: “Feel the fear and do it anyway. There are a lot of decisions in our lives that can instill uncertainty and fear, but just because we’re afraid of them, that’s not a good enough reason not to do them.” Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-terry/ Website: https://www.techoperators.com/  Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797   This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.  Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com

    49 min
  7. 8 Questions Every CEO Must Answer - Sangram Vajre - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 096 (Re-air)

    May 13

    8 Questions Every CEO Must Answer - Sangram Vajre - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 096 (Re-air)

    What if the reason your go-to-market isn't working has nothing to do with your tactics and everything to do with how your leadership team defines, owns, and executes it in the first place? In this Re-air episode of Shift & Thrive, host Natalie Nathanson is joined by Sangram Vajre, Co-Founder and CEO of GTM Partners, bestselling author of Move, and pioneer of account-based marketing, for a candid conversation on what it really means to build go-to-market as a company-wide operating system. Together, they explore why GTM must live at the CEO level, how the eight-question GTM operating system drives clarity across every stage of business growth, and what it looks like when AI is layered on top of strategic foundations versus used as a shortcut around them.  Takeaways: GTM is a transformational process, not a one-time plan. Treat every go-to-market decision as ongoing and iterative rather than the output of a single off-site or strategy session.Build clarity, alignment, and trust before deploying tactics. These three leadership fundamentals are what separate executive teams that execute well from those that stay stuck in misalignment, regardless of tools or AI adoption.Use the GTM operating system's eight questions to anchor strategy at every stage. The questions stay the same across problem-market, product-market, and platform-market fit; only the answers change as your business evolves.Focus on what is unchangeable in go-to-market: being better, faster, or cheaper for your customer. In a world drowning in new tools and tactics, anchoring to these constants creates durable competitive positioning.Understand the business of your function, not just the function itself. Whether you are in marketing, sales, or customer success, the leaders who grow fastest are the ones who understand the business economics behind their discipline.Quote of the Show: “ Once you start looking at go-to-market as a transformational process, you recognize that every time you make a go-to-market decision, it will transform your business, one way or the other. It's an ongoing process, and there's no finality in it.”Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sangramvajre/  Website: https://gtmpartners.com/  GTM Monday: https://gtmonday.substack.com/  Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797  This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.  Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com

    54 min
  8. Leading from the Inside Out - Kevin Bailey - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 095

    May 6

    Leading from the Inside Out - Kevin Bailey - Shift & Thrive - Episode # 095

    What happens to a founder's mental performance when the company is winning on paper but quietly unraveling from the inside, and what does neuroscience say about fixing it? In this episode of Shift & Thrive, host Natalie Nathanson sits down with Kevin Bailey, CEO and Co-Founder of Dream Fuel and a three-time Inc. 500 founder, to explore the intersection of leadership, mental performance, and neuroscience. Kevin opens up about hitting a wall as a first-time CEO scaling past 100 employees, and how a chance encounter with a neuroscientist transformed not just his leadership style, but the foundation of his next company. Together, they unpack how the same psychological tools used with elite athletes apply directly to tech founders and executive teams, why the leader's mental state is the ceiling on a company's performance, and what concepts like non-dual awareness actually mean for the way you show up every single day. Key Takeaways: Build a meditation practice before you need it. Psychological stability is a prerequisite for leading at speed, not a recovery tool. Start with transcendental meditation or breathwork to regulate your nervous system before pressure demands it.Learn to distinguish intuition from fear. Intuition typically arrives as a quiet signal, not a loud, urgent voice. Use somatic breathwork to quiet reactive networks in the brain and access clearer, deeper decision-making.Your mental state flows through your organization. Leaders who are dysregulated will see that instability reflected in their teams and, ultimately, in their product. Investing in your own mindset is an investment in company performance.Act on small trust erosions before they become large ones. Awareness-driven leadership means noticing subtle behavioral patterns early and making decisive, values-aligned moves before small problems compound into bigger ones.Use AI as a tool, not a replacement for thinking. Offloading writing and logical reasoning to AI can atrophy core leadership capabilities. Use it with intention and preserve the cognitive muscles that matter most.Bring mental performance work to the leader first. Mindset coaching only cascades effectively when the leader participates directly. Sending a team through the work while opting out yourself limits the impact. Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinjamesbailey/ Website: https://www.dreamfuel.com/ Email: kevin@dreamfuel.com The Greatest Secret: https://a.co/d/04t3NkhR David Bingham: https://davidbingham.org/  Ways to Tune In: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2D1YbT2QhKxIwbREpU7EMb Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/id1740828813 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/fa60b654-1955-4055-93df-fdd40c2a5c8f/shift-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-shift-thrive-ceo-insights-166792501 Pandora: https://www.pandora.com/podcast/shift-and-thrive-ceo-insights-on-driving-change/PC:1001086797   This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking-Power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.  Learn more at: https://www.magnetudeconsulting.com

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In today’s business world change is the only constant, and mastering transformation is the ultimate key to success. Welcome to Shift & Thrive! Each week, Host Natalie Nathanson will bring you conversations with CEOs, who delve into how they successfully drove critical change in their organization. This show is sponsored by Magnetude Consulting, bringing you the thinking power of a Growth Consultancy and the Getting-It-Done Power of a full-service B2B Marketing Agency.

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