The Fiction Podcast

TheFictionPodcast

We’re Classical Studies majors who wandered from ancient epics into modern fiction and never found our way out. Now we dive into worlds, themes, and characters across books and movies, tracing the core threads and irresistible plots. Then we grade everything—C is squarely average—because evaluating art is inherently absurd and endlessly fun. Thoughtful but never stiff, nerdy but never gatekeep-y, we’re here to enjoy stories, celebrate them, and laugh at ourselves along the way.

  1. Aug 12

    Ancient Legends: How Classics Like The Odyssey Shape Modern Storytelling — S.4 - Episode 16

    Ever wondered what makes a hero truly legendary? In this capstone episode of Season Four, Frank and Justin unravel the intricate tapestry of heroism, weaving through iconic stories from ancient cultures to contemporary cinema. They dive into the duality of heroism as they dissect Christopher Nolan’s polarizing adaptation of The Odyssey, sparking debates that challenge conventional notions of heroism. The Hosts also reflect on a season filled with epic tales—from the Iliad and the Odyssey to the cinematic masterpieces that have shaped our understanding of heroism. You’ll discover the pivotal traits that distinguish a hero from a legend, as Frank and Justin share their insights on characters that embody these qualities. They discuss the timelessness of stories like Mulan, Black Panther, and the Hero’s Journey, drawing parallels to modern interpretations of ancient myths. In addition, Frank And Justin provide recommendations for films and stories that resonate with the themes discussed throughout the season. They emphasize the importance of keeping ancient narratives alive in today’s pop culture and what it means for our understanding of heroism. Tune in for a lively conversation that not only recaps the season’s highlights but also invites you to reflect on the nature of heroism in your own life. Don't miss this engaging wrap-up that promises to ignite your curiosity and passion for the stories that define us. Chapters00:00 - Season 4 opens with a recap of the ancient epics and adaptations covered01:19 - Why this episode is the season’s capstone and wrap-up 01:58 - The season’s central question: who is a hero, and who is a legend?03:38 - Why controversy around The Odyssey keeps classics in the conversation04:28 - Comparing adaptation criticism to The Lincoln Lawyer and other fandom debates07:01 - Lawyer TV shows, Denny Crane, and a quick detour into comfort-viewing09:39 - Resetting the season’s structure around heroes, legends, and journeys10:03 - Is Odysseus a hero or a legend?12:10 - Disney’s Hercules as a cleaner example of the Greek hero arc14:12 - Why Odysseus is legendary but not heroic in the modern sense15:42 - How ancient heroism differs from modern heroism16:47 - Rapid-fire character verdicts begin: Achilles, Hector, and Leonidas18:36 - Moses in Prince of Egypt as the clearest modern-style hero19:26 - Nameless in Hero as legend, but not hero20:49 - Mulan as both legendary and heroic21:17 - The Woman King: Nanisca as legend, Nawi as hero in progress22:02 - Black Panther as hero, but debated as a legend22:42 - The Northman and its mythic roots in Hamlet and later storytelling24:24 - Returning to Odysseus and tying the whole season together25:05 - Standout films of the season: The Woman King and Hero26:10 - Why Hero and Mulan worked so well on rewatch31:08 - Recommendations Conn Iggulden’s historical fiction40:30 - Listener recommendations, feedback, and community responses41:45 - A note from Professors Foss and Schindler after watching The Odyssey Recommendations Conn Iggulden - Emperor Series (book)Conn Iggulden - Conqueror Series (book)Evan Winter - The Rage of Dragons (book)Kevin Hearne - The Iron Druid ChroniclesRome (tv series)African Queens - Njinga (docuseries)African Queens - Cleopatra (docuseries)

    Ancient Legends: How Classics Like The Odyssey Shape Modern Storytelling — S.4 - Episode 16
  2. Aug 5

    The Odyssey (2026): Homer, Myth & Storytelling With Author Janell Rhiannon - S.4 - Episode 15

    In this episode, we explore the timeless themes of the Odyssey and Iliad, comparing Homeric epics with Christopher Nolan's modern adaptation. We along with our Guest Host Janell Rhiannon (Ancient Historian and Writer) discuss the cultural significance, character complexities, and the challenges of translating ancient stories into contemporary media. In this episode, we explore the nuances of adapting classic stories to modern media, the importance of supporting the arts, and the impact of sound design in filmmaking. We also discuss our favorite characters, scenes, and the challenges of translating ancient tales to the big screen. Guest Name Janell Rhiannon Key Topics Comparison of Odyssey and IliadImpact of Nolan's adaptation on understanding HomerChallenges of translating ancient texts into filmThemes of heroism, home, and human conditionThe significance of storytelling and myth in culture The importance of supporting classical stories in modern mediaThe role of sound design in creating immersive film experiencesChallenges in adapting ancient stories like the Odyssey for contemporary audiencesThe impact of visual and auditory elements on storytelling Chapters 00:02 Introduction to the discussion on Homeric epics 03:17 Meet Janell Rhiannon 04:30 Iliad vs. Odyssey 11:47 Why The Odyssey Works on Film 21:02 Adapting Homer and Emily Wilson's Translation 41:40 The Bow, Sound, and Cinematic Moments 48:40 Lightning Round: Characters, Monsters, and Heroes 55:39 Final Grades and Reflections 1:02:44 Closing Thoughts and Where to Find Janell Resources The Iliad by Caroline Alexander - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=The+Iliad+by+Caroline+AlexanderThe Odyssey (Emily Wilson translation) - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=The+Odyssey+Emily+WilsonGreek Mythology Retold Podcast - https://example.com/greek-mythology-podcastChristopher Nolan's Films - https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0634240/Supporting the Arts - NEA - https://www.arts.gov/ Guest Links Website - https://janellrhiannon.com Instagram - https://instagram.com/janelle_rhiannon

    The Odyssey (2026): Homer, Myth & Storytelling With Author Janell Rhiannon - S.4 - Episode 15

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We’re Classical Studies majors who wandered from ancient epics into modern fiction and never found our way out. Now we dive into worlds, themes, and characters across books and movies, tracing the core threads and irresistible plots. Then we grade everything—C is squarely average—because evaluating art is inherently absurd and endlessly fun. Thoughtful but never stiff, nerdy but never gatekeep-y, we’re here to enjoy stories, celebrate them, and laugh at ourselves along the way.