Hangar DX Podcast

Ankit Jain
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The Hangar DX podcast focuses on developer experience and learning how different companies solve developer productivity challenges at scale. www.aviator.co/podcast

  1. Jun 4

    "We Don't Use AI to Produce Magic", Wayne Duso, 1Password

    In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Wayne Duso, VP of Platform and Infrastructure at 1Password, about: - How a security-first company approaches AI adoption without compromising on privacy and trust- Why the bottleneck has shifted from writing code to planning, architecture, and verification and what that means for how engineers work- How 1Password used agents to refactor a monolith in four hours after days of upfront spec work, and what that experiment revealed https://1password.com/blog/what-we-learned-using-ai-agents-to-refactor-a-monolith 00:00 Wayne Duso's Background and Role at 1Password02:12 1Password's Engineering Structure and Focus03:15 AI Adoption Journey at 1Password07:53 AI Security Considerations for 1Password09:49 Evolution of Engineering Workflows with AI11:55 Shifting Bottlenecks in Software Development Life Cycle13:23 Refactoring Monolith with Agents18:08 AI as an Amplifier in Engineering Practices19:09 Navigating the Tools: A Pragmatic Approach22:03 Human Oversight in AI-Driven Development25:54 Collaboration Between Humans and Agents27:58 Managing Specifications for Evolving Systems30:24 The Review Process: Balancing Speed and Quality34:09 Adoption Rates and Developer Engagement38:29 Evolving Metrics: Measuring Impact and Productivity42:02 Future Initiatives: From JIRA to PR Automation 📫 Sign up to our email list for more podcasts, articles, events, and other updates: https://www.aviator.co/podcast ✏️ Subscribe for more videos: @Aviator-Co 🙌 Join a curated community of senior engineers and engineering leaders focused on developer experience and solving productivity challenges at scale! Check out our upcoming off-the-record online sessions where vetted, experienced professionals can exchange ideas and share hard-earned wisdom: https://dx.community/ Replace code reviews with verified intentAI writes code faster than humans can review it. Aviator Verify provides compliance-grade verification through spec-driven development. Ship faster with complete audit trails. https://verify.aviator.co/

    38 min

  2. May 21

    Ship to Production Without Code Review? with Jade Rubick

    "Engineering teams need to be thinking about how they can get out of verifying every line of code, because otherwise they're going to be completely buried in that and will absolutely be the bottleneck." In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Jade Rubick, engineering leadership advisor and coach, about:  - Why traditional engineering roles are blurring and teams are feeling the squeeze between rising expectations and unchanged role definitions- How the role of verification engineer could reshape the way teams build and ship software, and- the 3 predictions for software engineering in 2027 that Jade is willing to be wrong about 00:00 Introduction and Jade's Background02:44 Current Changes in Engineering Organization Structures05:18 Blurring Roles and Responsibilities in Tech Teams07:09 The Return of Coding for Engineering Leaders10:00 Ownership and Role Evolution in AI-Driven Engineering14:22 Automated Verification Engineers and Testing Pipelines20:09 Reducing Verification Bottlenecks with AI22:23 The Role and Responsibilities of Verification Engineers25:52 Measuring Engineering Productivity in the AI Era27:26 Predictions for AI and Engineering in 202730:33 The Impact of AI on Code Maintenance and Complexity31:47 Final Thoughts and Future Outlook 📫 Sign up to our email list for more podcasts, articles, events, and other updates: https://www.aviator.co/podcast ✏️ Subscribe for more videos: @Aviator-Co 🙌 Join a curated community of senior engineers and engineering leaders focused on developer experience and solving productivity challenges at scale! Check out our upcoming off-the-record online sessions where vetted, experienced professionals can exchange ideas and share hard-earned wisdom: https://dx.community/ Replace code reviews with verified intentAI writes code faster than humans can review it. Aviator Verify provides compliance-grade verification through spec-driven development. Ship faster with complete audit trails. https://verify.aviator.co/

    32 min

  3. May 7

    The Hidden Cost of AI-Generated Code: Cognitive Debt and Intent Debt

    "I define cognitive debt as being that understanding of what the system is doing and why, and who knows what across the team."  In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Dr. Margaret-Anne Storey, Professor of Computer Science and Canada Research Chair, about- Why AI is amplifying the problems of poor team understanding- How cognitive debt and intent debt are the hidden risks of building fast with AI, and - Why slowing down might be the most important engineering practice in the age of agents. 00:00 Introduction to Developer Experience and Margaret's Background02:11 Exploring the SPACE Framework vs. DORA06:55 Subjectivity in Measuring Developer Productivity12:15 Impact of AI on Developer Collaboration and Productivity16:54 Understanding Cognitive and Intent Debt22:42 Understanding Cognitive Debt in Software Development26:36 The Impact of Intent Debt on Development28:07 Measuring Cognitive and Intent Debt32:20 The Role of AI in Amplifying Challenges37:24 Balancing Speed and Understanding in Development 📫 Sign up to our email list for more podcasts, articles, events, and other updates: https://www.aviator.co/podcast ✏️ Subscribe for more videos: @Aviator-Co 🙌 Join a curated community of senior engineers and engineering leaders focused on developer experience and solving productivity challenges at scale! Check out our upcoming off-the-record online sessions where vetted, experienced professionals can exchange ideas and share hard-earned wisdom: https://dx.community/

    40 min

  4. Apr 23

    All In on Claude Code at 400-Engineer Scale with Brian Scanlan, Intercom

    "You assemble a senior engineer out of hundreds of these skills. Each one is a little building block. We take the time and sweat the details on making sure they are great and almost near perfect at what they do." In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Brian Scanlan, Senior Principal Engineer at Intercom, about how Intercom set a goal of doubling engineering throughput with AI, why low-quality skills are worse than no skills at all, and how a platform team of eight is enabling 400 engineers to make all technical work agent-first. 00:00 Developer Experience and AI03:01 Intercom's Engineering Team and AI Integration05:49 Building a Skills Framework for Developer Productivity08:55 Data-Driven Insights and Skill Improvement12:05 Quality Control in Skills Development14:40 Managing Context and Skill Overlap18:00 Self-Improving Skills and Knowledge Systems20:53 Ownership and Maintenance of Skills23:43 Encouraging Adoption of AI Tools26:52 Building Trust for Production Access29:50 Business Continuity and Multi-Provider Strategies Brian's blog post: https://ideas.fin.ai/p/how-we-use-claude-code-today-at-intercom 📫 Sign up to our email list for more podcasts, articles, events, and other updates: https://www.aviator.co/podcast ✏️ Subscribe for more videos: @Aviator-Co 🙌 Join a curated community of senior engineers and engineering leaders focused on developer experience and solving productivity challenges at scale! Check out our upcoming off-the-record online sessions where vetted, experienced professionals can exchange ideas and share hard-earned wisdom: https://dx.community/

    43 min

  5. Apr 9

    Are You Using AI to Go Faster in the Wrong Direction? | Steve Pereira on Flow and Engineering

    "We can be in a flow state running in the wrong direction. Unless you can tie all your actions back to your strategic imperative, you might look back in five years and think: That was fun, but could I have gotten further?" In this episode of the HangarDX podcast, Ankit Jain, co-founder and CEO of Aviator, talks to Steve Pereira, lead consultant at Visible Value Stream Consulting and co-founder of the Flow Collective, to discuss where AI is genuinely moving the needle versus just generating more code to review, how to think about context switching and flow state when AI makes task-switching cheaper than ever, and how teams can use value stream mapping as a framework for getting AI adoption right. 00:00 Introduction to Developer Experience and Value Stream Mapping05:20 Understanding Value Stream Mapping in Practice08:09 The Impact of AI on Value Stream Flow17:06 Context Switching and Flow State in Software Development27:48 Intentionality in Context Switching and Flow State35:07 Value Stream Mapping as a Superpower for AI Success 📫 Sign up to our email list for more podcasts, articles, events, and other updates: https://www.aviator.co/podcast ✏️ Subscribe for more videos: @Aviator-Co 🙌 Join a curated community of senior engineers and engineering leaders focused on developer experience and solving productivity challenges at scale! Check out our upcoming off-the-record online sessions where vetted, experienced professionals can exchange ideas and share hard-earned wisdom: https://dx.community/

    36 min

  6. Mar 26

    How Honeycomb Is 2Xing Its Engineers with AI

    “Our internal target is to 2X our impact with AI over one year. Unlike some more outlandish mandates, that one is both aspirational and achievable,” says Emily Nakashima, SVP of Engineering at Honeycomb. In this episode of The Hangar DX podcast, Emily shares how Honeycomb approached AI adoption at scale and why they try not to focus on metrics that can be gamed but rely more on self-reporting by developers. Emily also discusses:- Why flattening org charts is a short-term optimization that will cost companies later- How Honeycomb issued a company-wide 2X mandate and what actually happened when they did- Why the "buffet phase" of AI tool adoption is over and what a structured rollout looks like- Why self-reporting beats hard metrics when measuring AI's impact on your team- Why observability is more critical than ever in a world of non-deterministic AI-generated code- Why AI SRE tools demo well but often fall short, and what they need to actually work 00:00 Introduction to Developer Experience and AI02:19 Emily's Journey in Engineering and Leadership05:15 Navigating Career Growth in Engineering06:28 Cultural Shifts in Engineering Management09:50 The Evolving Role of Engineering Managers12:59 Upskilling in the Age of AI17:50 AI Strategy and Product Development at Honeycomb21:38 Measuring AI Impact and Productivity28:09 The Future of Observability and AI in Engineering About Emily NakashimaEmily serves as SVP of Engineering at Honeycomb. A former manager and engineering leader at multiple developer tools companies, including Bugsnag and GitHub, Emily is passionate about building best-in-class, consumer-quality tools for engineers. She has a background in product engineering, performance optimization, client-side monitoring, and design.About Hangar DX (dx.community)The Hangar is a community of senior DevOps and senior software engineers focused on developer experience. This is a space where vetted, experienced professionals can exchange ideas, share hard-earned wisdom, troubleshoot issues, and ultimately help each other in their projects and careers.

    32 min

  7. Mar 12

    Scaling AI Adoption Across Engineering Teams with Ryan J. Salva

    "The future is already here, it's just unevenly distributed.", says Ryan J. Salva, Google and GitHub dev tools veteran. Ryan also shares:How OpenAI nearly took down GitHub's servers and how that incident seeded the creation of Copilot The five stages of autonomous engineering and why most teams are stuck between stage three and fourWhy DevOps and SRE are the next untouched frontier of AIThe three-step playbook for rolling out AI tools across large engineering teams without regressing on qualityWhy context, not the model, is the most important investment in AI-assisted development. About Ryan J. SalvaRyan is an experienced developer, product manager, and founder with 25 years of experience building developer tools at startups, Microsoft. GitHub, and now Google. Ryan leads product teams responsible for developer onboarding, code authoring, build and deployment systems, logging, observability, and end-to-end developer experiences. About Hangar DX (https://dx.community/)The Hangar is a community of senior DevOps and senior software engineers focused on developer experience. This is a space where vetted, experienced professionals can exchange ideas, share hard-earned wisdom, troubleshoot issues, and ultimately help each other in their projects and careers. We invite developers who work in DX and platform teams at their respective companies or who are interested in developer productivity.

    41 min

  8. Feb 26

    Build, Deploy, and Merge Queues at Scale with Jon Block

    “Engineers don’t always like merge queue because they have to wait longer for their PRs to merge. But the trade-off is that the quality of those merges will be higher, and the company will have less downtime and outages,” says Jon Block, founder of LowRouchAdvisor.  Using a merge queue is like wearing a seatbelt, he adds, the only responsible thing to do for large engineering organizations that ship products that matter. Jon also shares best practices and lessons learned about scaling build and deploy from his 26 years of experience.  Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Developer Experience and Scaling Repositories01:37 Managing Repositories in Large Organizations05:24 Monorepo vs. Multirepo: Pros and Cons07:53 Challenges of Merge Queues and Deployment at Scale13:02 GitHub Merge Queue Limitations and Solutions15:36 Batching, Stability, and Deployment Strategies19:16 Train Method of Deployment and Rollbacks22:37 Build Systems, Bazel, and Build Avoidance23:20 Impact of Flaky Tests and Automation28:46 Adopting Merge Queues and Cultural Challenges34:11 AI in Development: Opportunities and Risks37:41 Closing Remarks and Resources About Jon BlockJon Block has spent 26 years in software engineering, nearly all of it at high-growth startups. He has served as VP of Engineering and CTO multiple times and today advises engineering organizations through his firm, Low Touch Advisors. About Hangar DX (https://dx.community/)The Hangar is a community of senior DevOps and senior software engineers focused on developer experience. This is a space where vetted, experienced professionals can exchange ideas, share hard-earned wisdom, troubleshoot issues, and ultimately help each other in their projects and careers. We invite developers who work in DX and platform teams at their respective companies or who are interested in developer productivity. Verify AI CodeAI writes code faster than humans can review it. Aviator Verify provides compliance-grade verification through spec-driven development. Ship faster with complete audit trails. https://verify.aviator.co/

    37 min
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The Hangar DX podcast focuses on developer experience and learning how different companies solve developer productivity challenges at scale. www.aviator.co/podcast

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  • Creator
    Ankit Jain
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    52
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © dx.community
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    Hangar DX Podcast

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