Easier Said Podcast

Easier Said Podcast

Life is tough and talk is cheap. #EasierSaidPodcast emphasizes the importance of resilience and personal aim toward self improvement for people in all walks and stages of life. Join Host Brock Roggie to discover valuable and timeless life advice regarding Mental & Physical Health, Marriage, Parenting, Psychology, Emotional Intelligence, Business, Entrepreneurship, Faith & much more through the wisdom of weekly guests. The hope of the podcast is you leave each episode encouraged to put action to words that you may come to realize your potential and the effect you can have on those around you. 

  1. Jun 27

    ESP Ep. 87 Cameron Jackson

    In this episode, Cameron Jackson joins the podcast for a raw, wide-ranging conversation rooted in the core pillars of discipline, leadership, and personal growth. The discussion begins in the ultimate proving ground of character: home. The dialogue dives deep into the transformative journey of modern fatherhood, exploring how early childhood experiences, education, and pivotal life choices shape the way we parent today. This episode tackles some of the most complex issues defining our cultural and political landscape. Drawing on heavy themes of public service, law enforcement, and foreign policy, the conversation moves past polarized headlines to examine the real-world friction between media perception and ground-level reality. From the split-second moral weight of policing to the sweeping impact of immigration and military action, this is an unfiltered look at what it means to lead with integrity when the stakes are at their highest. Ultimately, this episode is focuses on humility and critical thinking. The conversation cuts through the noise of modern political tribalism, urging a shift away from personal grudges and superficial policy debates in favor of actual relationship-building. It serves as a powerful reminder that bridging our deepest divides starts with the willingness to have tough, nuanced conversations and a commitment to taking personal inventory before trying to fix the world. Enjoy! Leadership Lessons From The Great BooksUnderstanding great literature is better than trying to read and understand (yet)...Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify

    ESP Ep. 87 Cameron Jackson
  2. May 20

    ESP Ep. 86 Mike McCalley

    What happens when a single, short run with your son exposes a truth you can no longer ignore?  In this episode, we sit down with Mike McCalley to unpack his incredible transformation from being 52 years old, 70 pounds overweight, and unable to run a single quarter-mile, to taking on one of the most brutal endurance challenges on earth: a 100-mile ultra-marathon.  This conversation dives deep into the mental preparation required for ultra-running, the critical role of strength training and injury prevention, and the stark reality of what happens when a race plan completely falls apart. But as Mike quickly points out, this journey isn’t actually about running, it’s about facing reality, stepping outside your comfort zone, and doing the hard things required to become the person you were called to be. Mike pulls back the curtain on the mental game of endurance, sharing the moments his body completely shut down, the disasters he had to learn from, and the absolute necessity of burning the ships to commit fully to a goal. He highlights the incredible impact of having a dedicated crew, a supportive partner, and a rock-solid foundation in marriage and faith when everything in you wants to quit. Ultimately, this episode is a powerful blueprint for anyone feeling stuck physically, mentally, or spiritually. Through a candid reflection on personal trials, gratitude in adversity, and the ripple effect of personal growth, Mike proves that you are never too old, never too far gone, and it is never too late to take the first step. It is a defining story of hope, joy, and perseverance that will challenge you to look at the details of your own life and find perspective in the pain. Enjoy! Links: Documentary:  https://youtu.be/FsWPZSpYwII?si=6I2a6SomZa4NXk-m Instagram:  instagram.com/mike_mccalley Facebook: facebook.com/mike.mccalley.3 Strava:  strava.com/athletes/mike_mccalley Youtube Channel:  https://youtube.com/@endure121?si=x3z4bF8OBDEqNUbe Leadership Lessons From The Great BooksUnderstanding great literature is better than trying to read and understand (yet)...Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify

  3. Apr 20

    ESP Ep. 85 Simon Gingerich (Legacy Series)

    In this powerful Legacy Series episode of the Easier Said Podcast, Simon Gingerich shares a life shaped by faith, hard work, and unwavering integrity. From his early days growing up on a farm, Simon reflects on the values instilled in him through family, discipline, and a simpler way of life that stands in stark contrast to today’s world. He opens up about the influence of strong father figures, the quiet lessons learned through labor, and how enduring life’s inevitable struggles helped forge a deeper sense of purpose. The conversation turns deeply personal as Simon recounts one of the most defining chapters of his life, the loss of his first wife to cancer at just 41 years old, leaving him to navigate grief while raising young children. With honesty and humility, he shares how faith carried him through heartbreak, what loss taught him about perspective, and how those painful moments ultimately reshaped his calling. Out of that season emerged renewed purpose, leading Simon to found Son Light Missions in Haiti in 1970. He discusses the profound need he witnessed there, the challenges and rewards of mission work, and the eternal impact of investing in others. This episode is a moving testament to resilience, faith, and legacy, anchored in the belief that even through life’s hardest trials, purpose can be rediscovered and lives can be transformed. Leadership Lessons From The Great BooksUnderstanding great literature is better than trying to read and understand (yet)...Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify

    ESP Ep. 85 Simon Gingerich (Legacy Series)
  4. Mar 23

    ESP Ep. 84 Curt & Corwin Chirstman

    In this episode, we sit down with Curt Christman and Corwin Christman just after their return from a missions trip to Ghana, Africa. They share what it was like stepping into a completely different culture and the mindset required to truly serve others. From the early moments of planning the trip to the realities of being on the ground, Curt and Corwin reflect on what mission work actually looks like, and how the lessons they experienced abroad apply just as much to the communities we live in every day. The conversation explores the idea that the mission field isn’t always across the world; often, it’s right in front of us. Throughout the discussion, they talk about the power of intentional kindness, why serving others is central to our purpose, and how meaningful relationships can be formed even when language and culture are different. They share stories of humility, discovering the inherent value in every person, and the surprising ways that serving others often gives back more than you expect. Despite the differences between cultures, they also reflect on the deeper similarities that connect people everywhere. As the conversation unfolds, Curt and Corwin discuss leadership, courage, and the responsibility that comes with influencing others. The episode closes with a thoughtful message directed especially toward fathers, about setting an example, living with purpose, and raising the next generation with conviction, compassion, and faith. Enjoy! Leadership Lessons From The Great BooksUnderstanding great literature is better than trying to read and understand (yet)...Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify

    ESP Ep. 84 Curt & Corwin Chirstman
  5. Feb 28

    ESP Ep. 83 Retired CSM Aaron Moore, US Army

    Retired Command Sergeant Major Aaron Moore, U.S. Army, joins the podcast to share the story of a remarkable 28½-year career defined by elite service, combat leadership, and unwavering commitment to the soldiers beside him. A U.S. Army Airborne Ranger, Bronze Star recipient, and former Ranger Instructor, Moore was hand-selected to serve in the 101st Airborne Division, where he led Long Range Surveillance teams operating deep behind enemy lines, missions requiring exceptional discipline, independence, and courage. During Operation Iraqi Freedom, his decisive leadership directly contributed to the capture of a high-value enemy target, earning him the Bronze Star Medal. His superiors described him as a leader of exceptional initiative and courage, whose calm under pressure and devotion to his fellow soldiers embodied the highest standards of Army leadership. Yet despite these extraordinary accomplishments, Moore remains deeply humble, a quiet professional whose wisdom was forged through decades of service, sacrifice, and responsibility. In this conversation, Moore reflects on the formative experiences that shaped him, from his upbringing and early influences, to the lessons of parenting, discipline, autonomy, and personal responsibility that guided his path. He shares the pivotal decision to join the Army, the shock and transformation of basic training, and his early assignments in Hawaii and South Korea. He offers a rare inside look at the grueling reality of Ranger School and Airborne training, the pressure of elite expectations, and the leadership principles he learned while serving in some of the Army’s most demanding units. Moore also recounts defining moments from his career, including airborne operations that turned life-threatening in an instant, the realities of combat deployments to Kuwait, Baghdad, and Mosul, and his role in training Iraqi security forces during a critical period of the war. Through it all, he speaks candidly about the weight of responsibility, the loss of fellow soldiers, and the mindset required to lead when lives are on the line. More than a story about military service, this episode is a masterclass in leadership, resilience, and perspective. Moore shares hard-earned lessons on courage, managing fear and expectations, coping with trauma and mental health challenges, and finding purpose beyond the uniform. He reflects on the leadership styles that truly earn trust, the importance of humility in positions of authority, and the lifelong impact of serving something greater than oneself. This is the story of a Ranger, an Airborne combat leader, and a Command Sergeant Major whose 28½ years of service represent a legacy of commitment, valor, and leadership, and whose humility and wisdom continue to inspire long after the uniform has been retired. Leadership Lessons From The Great BooksUnderstanding great literature is better than trying to read and understand (yet)...Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify

    ESP Ep. 83 Retired CSM Aaron Moore, US Army
  6. Feb 18

    ESP Ep. 82 Mike Judd

    In this episode of Easier Said, we sit down with Mike Judd, Executive Director of Beaver Camp, for a wide-ranging and deeply personal conversation about faith, leadership, family, and the power of unplugging in a hyperconnected world. Mike shares his journey from camper to camp leader, reflecting on how formative outdoor experiences shaped both his career and his calling. We explore the growing tension between technology and true connection, and why creating intentional space for nature and reflection has never been more important. The conversation moves into the changing educational landscape, the role of adventure in building resilience, and how purpose is often discovered through discomfort and growth. Mike speaks candidly about prioritizing marriage, extending grace in parenting, and what it means to lead with humility and conviction. One of the most moving moments comes as he reflects on his father’s legacy and the impact of saying goodbye, reminding us that leadership begins at home. We also talk about hiking in the Adirondack Mountains, the mental clarity that comes from the outdoors, and what’s next for Beaver Camp and his own journey. This episode is a thoughtful, grounded exploration of building strong families, developing courageous leaders, and choosing presence in a distracted world. Enjoy! Leadership Lessons From The Great BooksUnderstanding great literature is better than trying to read and understand (yet)...Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify

    ESP Ep. 82 Mike Judd
  7. Feb 11

    ESP Ep. 81 Cassie Forbus

    In this episode of the Easier Said Podcast we sit down with Cassie Forbus who is a Lewis County native, community advocate, nonprofit leader, Chair of the Lewis County Democratic Committee. Cassie shares her journey from teacher to civic leader, reflecting on how her love for community, family roots, and belief in democratic ideals shaped her path back home. As a mother, wife, and longtime volunteer, she brings a grounded and practical perspective on what it means to show up, get involved, and work toward meaningful local change. Throughout the conversation, Cassie opens up about stepping outside of her comfort zone and navigating today’s complicated political landscape with humility and nuance. We explore the importance of listening, understanding what we don’t know, and approaching difficult conversations with curiosity rather than division. From the role of alternative media to the evolving nature of personal political views, Cassie emphasizes the need to focus more on shared struggles, community needs, and the power everyday citizens have to make an impact. This episode also dives into big picture topics like getting money out of politics, balancing small government with effective leadership, and learning how to work together despite deep differences. With a hopeful and forward-looking mindset, Cassie encourages us that real change can happen when people engage thoughtfully and respectfully, and that progress is always possible. Enjoy! Leadership Lessons From The Great BooksUnderstanding great literature is better than trying to read and understand (yet)...Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify

    ESP Ep. 81 Cassie Forbus
  8. Jan 21

    ESP Ep. 80 Evan Jennings

    On this episode, we sit down with Evan Jennings for a wide-ranging, honest conversation that moves seamlessly between family, faith, fitness, and the future we’re building for our kids. Evan shares who he is at his core and how fatherhood has reshaped his priorities, decision-making, and sense of responsibility. From the values that guide his home to the way he thinks about purpose and hierarchy in everyday life, this conversation is grounded, reflective, and deeply human. We dive into parenting styles, discipline, and the why behind the choices we make as parents, what it really means to set children up for success beyond comfort or achievement. Evan also opens up about his fitness and health journey, breaking down practical thinking around calories, consistency, and long-term sustainability, while tying physical discipline back to mental and spiritual clarity. The episode expands outward into bigger questions about creativity, artificial intelligence, and society’s shifting goals. Evan challenges how we think about meaning, curiosity, and the unseen spiritual realm, touching on biblical giants, modern distractions, and what it looks like to wrestle honestly with hard questions. It’s a conversation that invites you to slow down, think deeper, and reconsider what truly matters. Enjoy! Leadership Lessons From The Great BooksUnderstanding great literature is better than trying to read and understand (yet)...Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify

    ESP Ep. 80 Evan Jennings

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Life is tough and talk is cheap. #EasierSaidPodcast emphasizes the importance of resilience and personal aim toward self improvement for people in all walks and stages of life. Join Host Brock Roggie to discover valuable and timeless life advice regarding Mental & Physical Health, Marriage, Parenting, Psychology, Emotional Intelligence, Business, Entrepreneurship, Faith & much more through the wisdom of weekly guests. The hope of the podcast is you leave each episode encouraged to put action to words that you may come to realize your potential and the effect you can have on those around you.