A Fencers Life- Lessons from the Trenches

Simon Davis

Small bite size lessons from Simon Davis - Fencing Business owner , installer, contractor- Business builder, entrepreneur. Simon shares lessons from the trenches on how he built a fencing business - endured the pain & suffering of loss & built a new fencing business model better than ever, all whilst on the tools , on the ground & in the office . Some are life lessons- some are practical , logical steps every fencer needs to know about , both on the front end of business and in the installation phase and the back end of business.

  1. Aug 10

    Episode 54: Why You're Underpriced

    Most fencing operators don’t have a competition problem. They have a pricing problem. In this episode, Simon Davis explains why fear, poor pricing decisions, and targeting the wrong clients can keep fencing businesses busy without making them profitable. You’ll learn how to: • Stop comparing your prices to the cheapest operator.• Identify your ideal client and price for the value they want.• Use the “cast net vs line fishing” approach to win better work.• Understand the fears and expectations driving your best clients.• Stop discounting when customers push back on price.• Know when walking away from a job is the right decision.• Use your quote win rate to identify when you’re undercharging. Simon also shares a real example of walking away from approximately $230,000 in commercial work because the payment terms did not fit the business. The takeaway is simple: Know who you’re for. Charge what you’re worth. Let the rest walk. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro: Why this episode is about pricing, not competition00:37 A fencing operator’s mistake: blaming cheap competitors01:54 Fear as the real pricing killer02:53 Cause one: not knowing your numbers03:23 Cause two: comparing to the wrong competitors04:20 Cause three: not knowing your ideal client05:47 Why “anyone who needs a fence” is not a target market06:27 What an ideal client really looks like07:27 Demographics: age, income, location, property type09:04 Psychographics: values, attitudes, and buying behaviour11:42 The 10 fears and 10 wants exercise12:37 Common client fears around trades, quotes, and reliability14:08 Common client wants: communication, clarity, and peace of mind16:05 Why low pricing can signal low confidence or low quality17:03 Nightmare stories and dream stories that shape buying decisions18:33 Why the right client won’t necessarily flinch at your price20:00 The pricing confidence formula21:28 Walking away from commercial work that did not fit24:57 What discounting communicates to a client25:28 How to respond when a client says your price is too high26:42 Raise your prices now, not later27:12 The quote win-rate test28:09 Why a 15% increase can add $48,000 in profit29:25 Cast net vs. line fishing as a business model choice29:54 Action step: complete the ideal client worksheet and review your last three quotes ACTION ITEMS After listening, take these steps: Review your last 10 quotes and calculate your win rate.Identify your true ideal client by looking at your best jobs, not just the jobs you won.Write down 10 fears and frustrations your ideal client has.Write down 10 wants and aspirations they have.Review whether your current pricing reflects the value of solving those problems.Raise your prices by 10% to 15% on your next few quotes and track the results.Stop discounting unless the scope of work changes.The goal is not to win every quote. The goal is to win the right work at a price that makes the business profitable.

  2. Aug 3

    Episode 53: The Three Money Buckets. The Numbers Worth Gold

    Most fencing contractors think they're pricing jobs correctly. Materials, labour, add a bit for overheads, then send the quote. The problem is that this approach leaves money on the table. In this episode, Simon Davis breaks down the three money buckets that every profitable fencing business must recover on every single job. Miss one bucket and your profit disappears. Miss two and you're working for free. You'll learn: • Why labour should never be priced from wage rates alone.• How to calculate your true install recovery rate.• The difference between markup and margin, and why confusing the two can cost your business thousands every year.• Why every material you supply should earn a margin.• How to calculate overhead recovery so every job contributes to your business costs.• How to work out your weekly break-even before the first post goes in.• Why meter rates and gut-feel pricing often destroy profit.• How a simple cost analysis system removes guesswork from quoting.• Why successful contractors confidently say "no" to unprofitable work. Simon also shares real examples from North Coast Fencing to show how small pricing changes can add tens of thousands of dollars to your annual profit without winning more work. If you've ever wondered where the money disappears after completing a job, this episode will change the way you quote forever. Resources mentioned:Get the free Cost Analysis Template at https://theprofitablefencer.com/resources Connect with The Profitable Fencer: If you found this episode valuable, share it with another fencing contractor. One pricing improvement can change the future of a business.

  3. Jul 30

    Episode 52 : The Wake Up Call

    Most fencing business owners measure success by turnover. Bigger jobs. More crews. A full schedule. But what if you're working harder than ever and still not taking home the income you expected? In this episode of Fencer's Life Lessons from the Trenches, Simon Davis shares the reality many contractors face. You can build a business that turns over hundreds of thousands of dollars and still struggle with cash flow, profit, and long hours. Drawing on more than 30 years in the fencing industry, Simon explains why the real problem isn't a lack of work. It's the decisions being made every day inside the business. In this episode, you'll learn: • Why turnover is vanity and profit is what really matters.• The difference between being busy and building a profitable business.• The three stages every fencing business goes through.• Why many operators own a job instead of owning a business.• The systems every profitable fencing business needs.• How better decisions lead to better profits and more freedom. Key Takeaway You don't have a work problem. You have a decision problem. The good news is that better decisions can completely change the future of your business. Action Step Download the free Profit Leak Audit to identify where money is slipping through the cracks in your business. It takes about 10 minutes and gives you a clear starting point for improving your profitability. Resources • Free Profit Leak Audit: https://theprofitablefencer.com• Learn more about The Profitable Fencer coaching programs. If you found this episode valuable, subscribe to the podcast and share it with another fencing business owner who needs to hear it. Next episode, Simon dives into the numbers that actually run your business.

  4. Jul 21

    Episode 51: Eight Cylinders Drive the Business

    Maximize Your Fencing Business: The Eight Cylinders for Growth and ProfitabilityIn this episode, Simon Davis from The Profitable Fencer breaks down the eight critical areas—cylinders—that must work in harmony to build a scalable, profitable fencing business. Learn how misfires in any of these areas can drain resources and hinder growth, and discover actionable tips to tighten your operations.Main Topics Covered: The concept of the eight cylinders and their importanceHow leadership and vision influence business directionPackaging your product to add value beyond fencingAttracting quality leads and recruiting skilled team membersClarity in sales and the importance of strong quoting processesDelivering with excellence to build trustImplementing systems and technology for consistencyOptimizing operations and building a strong team for sustainabilityUsing data dashboards to monitor performance and identify weaknessesPrioritizing fixing one bottleneck at a time for steady growth00:00 - Introduction: Why most fencing businesses struggle with owner dependency00:45 - The concept of the eight cylinders driving business health01:15 - Why being busy doesn't necessarily mean profitability01:35 - The importance of leadership and vision in shaping your business02:02 - How to focus on the right work and avoid cheap, unprofitable jobs03:01 - Packaging your product: selling peace of mind, security, and aesthetics04:07 - Understanding your client's underlying reasons for fence needs05:04 - Communicating value to stand out and avoid being just a commodity06:14 - Managing lead quality over quantity and recruiting good team members07:04 - Clarity in sales and building confidence with well-structured quotes08:21 - Delivering quality to build trust and ensure repeat business09:18 - The importance of controlling the delivery process10:47 - Implementing systems and tech to streamline operations12:02 - The distinction between operations and delivery13:13 - Building a team: standards, accountability, and structure14:17 - The pitfalls of owner-dependent businesses and growth without structure16:26 - Identifying your bottleneck with a simple scoring system18:27 - The importance of data dashboards for decision-making19:15 - Fixing one bottleneck at a time for sustainable growth20:54 - Building trust in your team and letting them learn through doing21:21 - Structural fixes over personal effort: how to move from dependencies to scalability22:01 - Final thoughts: shift your focus from doing more work to fixing weak cylindersResources & Links: Connect with Simon Davis: The Profitable Fencerhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/simonmdavis/

  5. 04/17/2025

    Fence Benchmarking Ad On

    The importance of benchmarks in trades like fencing – and how to use them to measure, manage, and grow your business.In this episode, Simon Davis breaks down why benchmarking is one of the most underutilized but powerful tools for trade businesses. From spotting red flags in your numbers to improving your quoting accuracy, benchmarks offer clarity, consistency, and confidence in decision-making.Whether you’re running a small crew or scaling up, if you’re not using benchmarks – you’re flying blind.Key TakeawaysSpot Strengths & WeaknessesBenchmarks show you where you’re excelling and where you need improvement (e.g., your gross profit margin vs. industry standard).Set Realistic GoalsUse industry data, not gut feelings, to set achievable and informed business goals.Make Better DecisionsWhether it’s labour costs or material use, benchmarks take out the guesswork.Track Progress Over TimeRevisit benchmarks annually to see if you’re improving or just staying busy.Build CredibilityFacts and figures give you confidence with lenders, clients, and new hires.Improve Job Costing & QuotingUse benchmarks to dial in your man-hours, waste rates, and job profitability.Timestamps00:00 – Introduction: Why benchmarks matter00:31 – #1: Identifying strengths & weaknesses01:00 – #2: Setting realistic, industry-aligned goals01:27 – #3: Making informed business decisions01:57 – #4: Tracking long-term progress and Kaizen02:24 – #5: Backing up your business with facts02:51 – #6: More accurate quoting & job costing03:10 – Final thoughts: Benchmarking is your dashboard🎧 Subscribe & Learn More at: www.theprofitablefencer.com📲 Follow The Profitable Fencer Podcast for more insights on growing a profitable fencing business.

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Small bite size lessons from Simon Davis - Fencing Business owner , installer, contractor- Business builder, entrepreneur. Simon shares lessons from the trenches on how he built a fencing business - endured the pain & suffering of loss & built a new fencing business model better than ever, all whilst on the tools , on the ground & in the office . Some are life lessons- some are practical , logical steps every fencer needs to know about , both on the front end of business and in the installation phase and the back end of business.