Rugby Through The Leagues Podcast

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 Rugby Through The Leagues (Rugby TTL) shines a light on rugby beyond the mainstream — tier 2 and tier 3 nations, grassroots clubs, Spanish rugby, Rugby Europe, Super Rugby Americas, sevens and the global game. Honest interviews and analysis with the players, coaches and characters the spotlight ignores. New episodes regularly — subscribe on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts. 

  1. 2d ago

    EXCLUSIVE: Arthur Lennon Signs for Barça Rugby

    Rugby TTL exclusive: Arthur Lennon reveals his move to Barça Rugby — with Carl and Pasquale from Game Day Bites. In this episode: the call from director Javier Soler and why a dropped-down Barça appealed more than the safe option; what new head coach Juan Pablo Socino wants from his fly-half; and what years in and out of Spanish rugby taught a player who arrived mid-COVID without a word of the language. Subscribe on YouTube (youtube.com/@RugbyTTL) · Spotify · Apple Podcasts · rugbyttl.com & rugbyttl.app 00:00:00 A Rugby TTL Exclusive 00:00:30 Signing for Barça Rugby 00:01:00 Barça's Drop to Elite A 00:02:00 The Sant Cugat Game That Started It 00:02:30 The Call from Javier Soler 00:03:00 Juan Pablo Socino Takes Over 00:04:00 When Barça Come Knocking 00:05:00 Academies & Building the Base 00:06:00 Learning the Language 00:07:00 One-Year Deals & the "One Plus One" 00:08:00 Arriving Without a Word of Spanish 00:09:00 Taking the Plunge Mid-COVID 00:10:00 What Spain Taught Him 00:11:00 The Players Who Never Took the Chance 00:12:00 Natural Talent vs Hard Work 00:13:00 The Pull of La Vila 00:14:00 MVP Days & Memories 00:15:00 Coaching Connections in Toledo 00:16:00 South Americans in the Spanish Game 00:17:00 The Athleticism Gap 00:18:00 The Elite A Format 00:19:00 Contracts & Chances at This Level 00:20:00 Towns That Turn Out for Their Club 00:21:00 What Players Back Home Don't Get 00:22:00 How Barça Want to Play 00:23:00 Recruitment & the Set Piece 00:24:00 Turning Around a Poor Run 00:25:00 Never-Ending Excitement 00:26:00 A Packed Stadium & That Touchline Conversion 00:27:00 One Vision for Spanish Rugby

    EXCLUSIVE: Arthur Lennon Signs for Barça Rugby
  2. Sep 25

    35 Asked, 3 Said No — Dan Elsom, British & Irish Expats Rugby

    Two days before British & Irish Expats Rugby play their first ever fixture, Carl talks to the man who built it. Dan Elsom grew up in Sydney, played Shute Shield, then spent five years in the English national leagues — and came home missing the culture he'd found in British and Irish grassroots rugby. The idea arrived watching the Lions take on the Wallabies. The maths arrived shortly after: there were already dozens of British and Irish qualified players out here playing Shute Shield and Hospital Cup, and nobody had ever put them in the same shirt. What follows is an unusually honest account of how a concept becomes a team. A DM to Harry Fehily, former Shute Shield Coach of the Year, left on read for two days. Then a coffee. Then a head coach — and only then, players. Fehily asked 35. Three said no. Dan is clear about the gap he's trying to close: Australia has the Shute Shield, and it has Super Rugby, and since the National Rugby Championship folded there's nothing in between. He's just as clear about the part nobody posts about — twelve months of nights after work, and personal money, with no headline sponsor yet. Plus Sam Thomson as inaugural captain, a Pacific Warriors squad that made Dan glad he's retired, eight nations in one fixture, and where this goes next: World Cup warm-ups for Tier 2 nations, and Super Rugby pre-season. 🏉 Heritage Cup — British & Irish Expats v Pacific Warriors. Pittwater Park, Sydney, Sunday 27 September. 17:00 AEST / 08:00 UK. Free entry. Live on Rugby TTL with our own commentary. Subscribe on YouTube (youtube.com/@RugbyTTL) · Spotify · Apple Podcasts · rugbyttl.com · rugbyttl.app

    35 Asked, 3 Said No — Dan Elsom, British & Irish Expats Rugby
  3. Sep 11

    "If It Wasn't For Rugby, I Probably Wouldn't Be Here" — Nathan Mason, Match for Mental Health

    A special one before the season restarts. Carl talks to Nathan Mason, the man behind Match for Mental Health — back at Cardiff Arms Park on Friday 30 October, kick-off 19:30, raising money for Tough Enough To Care and Looseheads RFC. Nathan never set out to organise anything. A conversation about sevens turned into "I've got the Arms Park, do you know any charities?", and he said yes before he'd thought about it. The first edition landed in October 2025 — a few hundred in the stand, Josh Navidi, Dillon Lewis, Alex Cuthbert and Josh McNally coaching, Harry Morgan, Dan Baker, Richard Carpenter and Nico Matawalu playing alongside community lads. He stood still at the final whistle with a tear in his eye, mostly out of relief. Then the reason the game exists. Nathan is open about his own struggles in 2019–20: the "blips" he learned to spot, using drink to flatten the feeling, and what he built afterwards — writing down what he can and can't control and binning the half he can't, shutting the laptop and walking, being honest with the lads. On what actually helped: therapy, medication, peer support and the physical side. A bit of everything, no single fix. In between, Welsh rugby gets a proper going over — the regions, the WRU, empty seats against South Africa, age groups falling away at Abergavenny, and why the game keeps watering itself down instead of packaging itself for people who won't sit through eighty minutes. Looseheads RFC want a mental health lead in every rugby club in the world: 36 countries and 1,300+ clubs so far. Tough Enough To Care run peer support groups across the Midlands and the south. Both split the £10,000 fundraiser target. 🎟️ Tickets: Cardiff Rugby's website (30 October), or the link in the @match4mentalhealth Instagram bio. 💬 If any of this lands close to home, talk to someone today — a mate, your club's mental health lead, or your GP. In the UK, Samaritans are on 116 123, free, 24/7. Subscribe on YouTube (youtube.com/@RugbyTTL) · Spotify · Apple Podcasts · rugbyttl.com · rugbyttl.app

    "If It Wasn't For Rugby, I Probably Wouldn't Be Here" — Nathan Mason, Match for Mental Health
  4. Aug 16

    Ascent Rugby Series: Byron Schmidt, Frankfurt — The Coach Behind the Idea

    Frankfurt head coach Byron Schmidt on hosting the first-ever Ascent Rugby Series festival — and how the whole competition started as his idea. In this episode: how a cross-border youth format became Central Europe's newest senior series; Frankfurt's running brand of rugby and the players to watch; and what fans can expect in Frankfurt on 22 August. Subscribe on YouTube (youtube.com/@RugbyTTL) · Spotify · Apple Podcasts · rugbyttl.com. ⏱  00:00:00 Welcome to the Ascent Rugby Series 00:00:45 Meet Byron Schmidt, Frankfurt Head Coach 00:01:00 A Dominant Bundesliga Season 00:01:40 Where the Ascent Idea Came From 00:02:00 Building the Brand: Nico, Henry & Felix 00:02:30 Pre-Season Prep and Player Buzz 00:04:00 Why Every Club Treats Ascent as Pre-Season 00:05:00 Giving the Players a Mental Break 00:06:00 Eight Years at the Club and the Dukes 00:07:00 The Amateur Ethos: Rugby After the Whistle 00:08:30 Football Kids Crossing to Rugby 00:10:00 Coaches, Volunteers and Development 00:11:00 German Rugby on the Rise 00:13:00 Talent Coming Through the System 00:15:00 Central Europe's Heineken Cup? 00:16:00 From Parked Idea to Three-Year Plan 00:18:00 Frankfurt's Style: A Running Brand of Rugby 00:20:00 Rebuilding the Senior Section on Fundamentals 00:22:00 Players to Watch: Leo Wolfe Leads the Way 00:25:00 Mates Made at Festivals Like This 00:26:00 Frankfurt Hosts: What to Expect on the Day 00:27:30 On the Fence? Come and Watch 00:28:00 The Miniseries Ahead & Where to Follow

    Ascent Rugby Series: Byron Schmidt, Frankfurt — The Coach Behind the Idea
  5. Aug 12

    Ascent Rugby Series Preview with RC Eemland Head Coach Mitch McGann | Rugby Through the Leagues Podcast

    On the Rugby Through the Leagues podcast, Carl speaks with Mitch McGann, head coach of Dutch club RC Eemland, a founding team in the new Ascent Rugby Series beginning 22nd August in Frankfurt and now expanded from six to seven teams, including two Dutch sides (RC Eemland and The Dukes). McGann explains Eemland's identity as a family-oriented club with a strong youth pipeline and a recent shift from a forward-heavy style toward more ball movement and flair, and discusses how playing styles vary by region across the Netherlands. They preview Eemland's pre-season fixtures in the series against Poland's Pogon and Czech powerhouse Tatra, touch on scouting and preparation, highlight key players and new Kiwi signings, and discuss facility challenges, youth development via regional academies, and broader ambitions for cross-border competition and Dutch rugby growth. Chapters: 00:00 Welcome and Series Intro 00:58 RC Eemland Identity 02:37 Dutch Rugby Styles 04:28 Regional Differences 06:39 Dukes Rivalry Talk 09:22 Preseason and Fixtures 10:44 Pogon Lessons and Plan 14:13 Joining Ascent Rugby 16:00 Players to Watch 19:30 Scouting and Hosting Plans 22:43 Pitches and Facilities 27:59 Dutch Rugby Growth Pathway 32:31 Domestic Pro Vision 34:36 Why Ascent Matters 37:58 Funding and Future Format 42:24 Wrap Up and Tickets 🎟️ Tickets: ascentrugby.com 👉 Join free: rugbyttl.com/members 👉 Get the App: rugbyttl.app

    Ascent Rugby Series Preview with RC Eemland Head Coach Mitch McGann | Rugby Through the Leagues Podcast
  6. Jul 10

    Greece's Rugby Growth: Inside the Aegean Festival & Big 2027 Athens Plans

    This week on Rugby Through the Leagues, Carl sits down with George and Dave from Attica Rugby, the team behind the Aegean Rugby Festival, to talk about growing rugby in Greece through sport tourism. They cover the festival's origins, the vision of showcasing Greece as a sporting destination, and the reality of 2026 — a scaled-back event after travel uncertainty and rising costs forced multiple cancellations, yet still delivered with four men's and four women's teams, strong local support in Crete, and professional refereeing. Then the big one: plans for a bigger early-summer 2027 festival in Athens — rugby sevens, beach rugby, an all-inclusive option, a major closing party, and ideas for youth divisions, touch rugby, rugby tours and future 15s. Plus Andy Powell's sevens story, why legends add credibility, the Greek rugby leadership gap, and the philosophy of show up and build. Real stories from the leagues the mainstream skips. ⏱️ Timestamps  (00:00) Welcome & Guests  (00:56) Origins of the Aegean Festival  (03:01) Greek Rugby Growth  (05:22) Festival Vision & the Federation  (09:15) Travel Chaos & Cancellations  (11:01) Pulling Off the 2026 Event  (13:13) Referees & Tournament Quality  (16:47) 2027 Athens Teaser  (18:48) Youth Division vs the Party  (23:12) Future Formats & Rugby Tours  (27:48) Streaming the Format  (28:08) Tournament Week Blueprint  (28:44) Event Weekend Integration  (29:19) The Andy Powell Sevens Story  (31:37) Legends Add Credibility  (33:56) The Greek Rugby Leadership Gap  (38:12) Show Up & Build  (39:37) Celebrities Who Deliver  (43:57) Rugby for Anyone  (47:01) Touch Rugby Expansion  (48:42) Early Summer 2027 Plans  (50:30) Final Wrap & Callouts 🎧 Follow Rugby TTL wherever you get your podcasts — and if you're enjoying it, a rating or review genuinely helps us reach more people.  ▶️ Watch the full video: youtube.com/@RugbyTTL  📸 Instagram: @rugby.ttlpod  🌍 rugbyttl.com

    Greece's Rugby Growth: Inside the Aegean Festival & Big 2027 Athens Plans

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 Rugby Through The Leagues (Rugby TTL) shines a light on rugby beyond the mainstream — tier 2 and tier 3 nations, grassroots clubs, Spanish rugby, Rugby Europe, Super Rugby Americas, sevens and the global game. Honest interviews and analysis with the players, coaches and characters the spotlight ignores. New episodes regularly — subscribe on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts. 

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