Unveiling the Legends: Dolls of the 60s & 70s

Emma Rosa Katharina & Abigail Devoe

The Dolls Podcast spotlights ladies from the 60s and 70s who inspire cohosts Emma Rosa Katharina and Abigail Devoe. With each episode they’ll share the story of one actress, activist, musician, groupie, or fashion icon, with the purpose of proving her lasting influence. They may have lived in the time of the Whiskey A Go-Go and Studio 54, but celebrating the women of yesterday still matters today. Keep the shindig going with @thedollspod on Instagram!

  1. Mimi Fariña: Beyond the Baez Name

    2D AGO

    Mimi Fariña: Beyond the Baez Name

    “For rising of the women Means the rising of the race. No more the drudge and idler, Ten that toil where one reposes, But the sharing of life's glories, Bread and roses, bread and roses.” Mimi Fariña spent most of her life living in someone else’s shadow. First, she was the kid sister of folk music’s Mother Mary, Joan Baez. Then, she was one half of a duo with her husband Richard Fariña; a mysterious and handsome writer cut down in his prime. Mimi refused to let these larger-than-life figures dictate her story. She found her own voice and her life’s work, establishing her nonprofit Bread & Roses to bring music to isolated communities in the San Fransisco Bay Area, and found her purpose in tragedy. Plus, the Dolls Pod gives…hot takes on classic literature and film? Emma and Abby talk about the difficulties of adapting “Wuthering Heights,” and Emma loves a slow film but declares “Gone With The Wind” is an hour too long. Do you agree? “Mimi Fariña: Beyond the Baez Name” is available wherever you stream your podcasts 🌹 (Episode begins at 5:40) Bread & Roses official website: https://www.breadandroses.org (https://www.breadandroses.org/) Sources used for this episode: David Hajdu, “Positively 4th Street: The Lives and Times of Joan Baez, Bob Dylan, Mimi Baez Farina and Richard Farina” (2001) Joan Baez, “And A Voice To Sing With” (1986) Elijah Wald, “Dylan Goes Electric! Newport, Seeger, Dylan, and the Night That Split the Sixties” (2015) Suze Rotolo, “A Freewheelin’ Time: A Memoir of Greenwich Village in the Sixties” (2008) Patrick Morrow, “Mimi Fariña Interview” Popular Music and Society vol. 2, no. 1, 1972. Reprinted by Mimiandrichardfarina.com “Greenwich Village: Music That Defined a Generation” (dir. Laura Archibald, 2012) “Joan Baez: I Am A Noise” (dir. Miri Navasky, Maeve O’Boyle, and Karen O’Connor, 2023) “The Ballad of Mimi Fariña: A biography of the great guitarist, singer, songwriter & humanitarian” Mimiandrichardfarina.com Songs used in this episode: Kate Bush - “Wuthering Heights” (1978) Pete Seeger - “Where Have All The Flowers Gone?” (1955) Joan Baez and Mimi Fariña - “Catch The Wind” (1967) Joan Baez - “Silver Dagger” (1960) Richard Fariña and Eric Von Schmidt - “You Can Always Tell” (1963) Bob Dylan and Joan Baez - “Mama, You’ve Been On My Mind” (Live at the Philharmonic Hall) [1964] Joan Baez - “Birmingham Sunday” (1964) Mimi and Richard Fariña - “Pack Up Your Sorrows” (1965) Mimi and Richard Fariña - “House Un-American Blues Activity Dream” (Live at the 1965 Newport Folk Festival) Mimi and Richard Fariña - “Miles” (1966) Mimi and Richard Fariña - “Bold Marauder” (Live on Pete Seeger’s Rainbow Quest) [1966] The Doors - “Been Down So Long” (1971) Mimi Fariña - “Flowers In The Afternoon” (1967) Blood, Sweat & Tears - “Meagan’s Gypsy Eyes” (1968) Joan Baez - “Sweet Sir Galahad” (1969) Joan Baez and Mimi Fariña - “Morning, Morning” (Live at the 1968 Newport Folk Festival) Mimi Fariña and Tom Jans - “In the Quiet Morning” (1972) Judy Collins - “Bread and Roses” (1976) Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!

    1h 1m
  2. Florence Ballard: The Real Effie White

    FEB 6

    Florence Ballard: The Real Effie White

    “She was a beautiful person, loving and warm...She was down-to-earth, she loved to laugh, and everyone loved her.” - Marvin Gaye, on fellow Motown star and original Supreme Florence Ballard This week, the Dolls Pod presents the true story behind the Tony-winning musical “Dreamgirls,” and the very real woman that was its muse. Both Jennifer Holliday and Jennifer Hudson won Academy awards for their portrayals of Effie White, based on the fiery founder of the Supremes. Florence Ballard sang on 16 of their top 40 hits, and 9 of their number ones. But she did not have the happy ending Effie gets in “Dreamgirls.” She’s often called “the Lost Supreme,” as she was virtually erased from the group’s history. But as this episode will show you, Flo Ballard was anything but “just a backup singer.” She was brave in the face of hardship and a true trailblazer; the soul of Motown’s first girl group. “Florence Ballard: The Real Effie White” is available wherever you stream your podcasts 🎤 (Episode starts at 4:50) Sources used for this episode: Peter Benjaminson, “The Lost Supreme: The Life of Dreamgirl Florence Ballard” (2009) Nelson George, “Where Did Our Love Go? The Rise and Fall of the Motown Sound” (2007 ed.) Randall Wilson, “Forever Faithful: A Study of Florence Ballard and the Supremes” (1987) Mary Wilson, “Dreamgirl: My Life as a Supreme” (1986) Maxine Ballard Jenkins, “The True Story of Florence Ballard” (2007) “Unsung” season 2 episode 4, “Florence Ballard” (6/28/2009) “Mary Wilson Gets Emotional Remembering Florence Ballard” via SiriusXM on YouTube, 9/24/2019 Songs used in this episode: Jennifer Hudson - “And I Am Telling You I’m Not Going” (From the soundtrack of “Dreamgirls”) [2006] Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers - “Why Do Fools Fall In Love” (1956) Ray Charles - “The Right Time” (1958) Smokey Robinson and the Miracles - “Shop Around” (1960) The Primettes - “Tears of Sorrow” (1961) The Supremes - “Buttered Popcorn” (1962) The Marvelettes - “Please Mr. Postman” (1961) The Contours - “Do You Love Me” (1962) Mary Wells - “You Beat Me To The Punch” (1962) The Supremes - “When The Lovelight Starts Shining Through His Eyes” (1963) The Supremes - “Where Did Our Love Go?” (1964) The Supremes - “Baby Love” (1964) The Beatles - “Money (That’s What I Want)” (1964) The Supremes - “Stop! In The Name of Love” (1965) The Supremes - “You Keep Me Hangin’ On” (1966) Vanilla Fudge - “You Keep Me Hangin’ On” (1967) The Supremes - “Ain’t That Good News” (1965) The Supremes - “People” (1967) Scott McKenzie - “San Fransisco” (1967) Florence Ballard - “It Doesn’t Matter How I Say It” (1968) Sheryl Lee Ralph, Loretta Devine, and Jennifer Holliday - “Dreamgirls” (From the original Broadway cast recording of “Dreamgirls”) (1982) Follow @thedollspod on Instagram to see clips and photos from this episode!

    54 min
  3. Oh, Yoko! Part 2

    08/22/2025

    Oh, Yoko! Part 2

    “I think that love will never die. Once you know somebody, you can never unknow that person. And knowing is loving. So you never can get out of love.” The Dolls Pod Beatle Girl miniseries concludes! Part two of our “Oh Yoko!” episode focuses on her music, activism, and of course, we tell the ballad of Yoko and John. Also: car seats and nurseries and baby names, oh my! Emma is settling into her last few weeks before baby arrives. Join us for the emotional season two finale of the Dolls Podcast, available wherever you stream your podcasts ☁️ Sources used for this episode: David Sheff, “Yoko” (2025) Jann Wenner, “Lennon Remembers” (2000) David Sheff, “The Playboy Interviews with John Lennon & Yoko Ono” (edited by G. Barry Golson, 1981) Cynthia Lennon, “John” (2005) May Pang with Henry Edwards, “Loving John” (1983) The Beatles, “Anthology” (2000) Alan Clayson, Barb Jungr, and Robb Johnson, “Woman: The Incredible Life of Yoko Ono” (2004) J. Hoberman, “Everything Is Now: The 1960s New York Avant-Garde - Primal Happenings, Underground Moves, Radical Pop” (2025) Elvis Mitchell, “Yoko Ono” Interview Magazine, 11/26/2013 Lisa Carver, “Yoko Ono: A Reconsideration” The New York Times, 10/19/2012 “One To One: John & Yoko” (dir. Kevin MacDonald and Sam Rice-Edwards, 2025) “Classic Albums: John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band” (dir. Matthew Longfellow, 2008) (Episode starts at 7:08) Songs used in this episode: Yoko Ono - “Yes, I’m A Witch” (2007) Plastic Ono Band - “Give Peace A Chance” (1969) Yoko Ono - “Don’t Worry Kyoko” (1969) John Lennon - “Mother” (1970) John Lennon - “Imagine” (1971) “Glee End Credits Theme” (2009)
Yoko Ono - “Approximately Infinite Universe” (1973) John Lennon - “Beautiful Boy” (1980) John Lennon - “Just Like Starting Over” (1980) Yoko Ono - “Talking To The Universe” (1995) Fiona Apple - “I Want You To Love Me” (2020) Yoko Ono, Kim Gordon & Thurston Moore - “Mirror Mirror” (2012) Death Cab For Cutie - “Waiting For The Sunrise” (Yoko Ono Cover) [2022] John Lennon - “Oh Yoko!” (1971) With samples from Monday Night Football, 12/8/1980, and Yoko’s Grammys acceptance speech, 2/24/1982 Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!

    1h 19m
  4. Oh, Yoko! Part 1

    08/15/2025

    Oh, Yoko! Part 1

    “The average rating of our podcast is too high,” we lamented. “Let’s incite a mob of one-star reviews just for covering Yoko Ono!” We giggled, as we rubbed our little hands together like flies. Season 2 of the Dolls Pod is going down screaming, or whatever you call those distinct vocal stylings. The fifth episode of our Beatle Girl miniseries is here, focusing primarily on Yoko Ono’s life and art before meeting “JOOOOOHN!” If you hate Yoko, you will hate this episode. If you love Yoko, you will hate this episode. “Oh, Yoko!” is available now, wherever you stream your podcasts 🌊 (Episode starts at 4:58) Sources used for this episode: David Sheff, “Yoko” (2025) Jann Wenner, “Lennon Remembers” (2000) David Sheff, “The Playboy Interviews with John Lennon & Yoko Ono” (edited by G. Barry Golson, 1981) Cynthia Lennon, “John” (2005) May Pang with Henry Edwards, “Loving John” (1983) The Beatles, “Anthology” (2000) Alan Clayson, Barb Jungr, and Robb Johnson, “Woman: The Incredible Life of Yoko Ono” (2004) J. Hoberman, “Everything Is Now: The 1960s New York Avant-Garde - Primal Happenings, Underground Moves, Radical Pop” (2025) Elvis Mitchell, “Yoko Ono” Interview Magazine, 11/26/2013 Lisa Carver, “Yoko Ono: A Reconsideration” The New York Times, 10/19/2012 “One To One: John & Yoko” (dir. Kevin MacDonald and Sam Rice-Edwards, 2025) Songs in this episode: Miles Davis Quintet - “Nature Boy” (1955) The Beatles - “Tomorrow Never Knows” (1966)
The Beatles - “Julia” (1968) John Lennon & Yoko Ono - “Two Virgins Side One” (1968) Rainbo (Sissy Spacek) - “John, You Went Too Far This Time” (1969) The Beatles - “The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill” (1968) The Beatles - “Revolution 9” (1968) The Beatles - “Don’t Let Me Down” (Take 1/Rooftop Performance, 1/30/1969) The Beatles - “The Ballad of John and Yoko” (1968) with samples from “Get Back” (dir. Peter Jackson, 2021) Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!

    1h 10m
  5. Linda McCartney: The Life Behind the Lense

    08/01/2025

    Linda McCartney: The Life Behind the Lense

    Our 4th episode of the Dolls Pod Beatle Girl miniseries is all about Lovely Linda! As Linda Eastman, she was one of rock-and-roll’s premiere photographers, capturing the likes of Jimi Hendrix and The Rolling Stones, and the first woman to photograph a Rolling Stone cover. As Linda McCartney, she was an animal rights advocate and one half of one of rock-and-roll’s most beloved couples. With Linda’s love, Paul soared to new heights. Linda was proof you don’t have to choose between being a working woman, a rock-and-roll woman, and a domestic goddess. She truly did it all! (Plus, Abby recounts her visit to the World’s Tallest Filing Cabinet.) Earn your “Wings” with the latest episode of the Dolls Pod, available wherever you stream your podcasts 📸 (Episode starts at 7:45) Sources used for this episode: Danny Fields, “Linda McCartney: The Biography“ (2000) Alan “Paul McCartney’s Tribute to Linda McCartney“ The New York Times, 6/23/1998 “Wingspan“ (dir. Alistair Donald, 2001) Songs in this episode: Buddy Clark - “Linda” (1947) Paul McCartney - “The Lovely Linda” (1970) Paul McCartney - “Maybe I’m Amazed” (1970) Paul McCartney - “Man We Was Lonely” (1970) Paul McCartney - “Kreen-Akrore” (1970) Paul & Linda McCartney - “Ram On” (1971) Paul & Linda McCartney - “Long-Haired Lady” (1971) Paul & Linda McCartney - “Monkberry Moon Delight” (1971) Suzy and the Red Stripes - “Seaside Woman” (1977) Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for photos and clips from this episode, including Abby’s copy of the 1/31/1974 issue of Rolling Stone with Paul and Linda!

    1h 15m
  6. Pattie Boyd: The Real-Life Layla

    07/18/2025

    Pattie Boyd: The Real-Life Layla

    “It was like hitching a ride on a shooting star: a fantastic experience that caused immense pain, but I’m glad I had it…That sort of experience doesn’t come twice.” Except when it does. You know the story, you know the songs, but there’s so much more to the woman behind them. Episode three of the Dolls Pod Beatle Girl Miniseries is dedicated to rock-and-roll’s Helen of Troy: Pattie Boyd. Pattie’s story is a lot more than meets the eye. She broke generational cycles, gained her independence (the hard way,) discovered her self-worth, and finally found herself after decades of living in song. (Plus: Abby hears 99 Luftbaloons in a bagel shop and goes straight to Emma for the story.) Pattie Boyd: The Real-Life Layla is up now, wherever you stream your podcasts 🌹 (Episode starts at 4:56) Sources used for this episode: Pattie Boyd with Penny Junor, “Wonderful Tonight: George Harrison, Eric Clapton, and Me” (2007) Pattie Boyd, “My Life in Pictures” (2022) Eric Clapton, “Clapton: The Autobiography” (2007) Kenneth Womack and Jason Kruppa, “All Things Must Pass Away: Harrison, Clapton, and Other Assorted Love Songs” (2021) Chris O’Dell with Katherine Ketcham, “Miss O'Dell: My Hard Days and Long Nights with The Beatles, The Stones, Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton, and the Women They Loved“ (2009) Cherry Marshall, “The Cat Walk” (1978) “Eric Clapton: Life in 12 Bars” (dir. Lili Fini Zanuck, 2017) “Clapton Admits Abusing Wife” Associated Press, 6/27/1999 “Taylor Swift Interviews Rock ’n’ Roll Icon Pattie Boyd on Songwriting, Beatlemania, & the Power of Being a Muse” Interview Magazine, 7/10/2018 Songs in this episode: Nena - “99 Luftballons” (1983) The Beatles - “A Hard Day’s Night” (1964) The Beatles - “I Need You” (1965) The Beatles - “Norwegian Wood” (Take 1, from “Anthology 2 Version”) [1965/1966] George Harrison - “Dream Scene” (From the “Wonderwall” soundtrack) [1968] The Beatles - “Birthday” (1968) The Beatles - “Something” (Studio Demo) [1969] Derek and the Dominos - “Bell Bottom Blues” (1970) Derek and the Dominos - “Layla” (1970) Eric Clapton - “Wonderful Tonight” (1977) Eric Clapton - “Pretty Girl” (1983) with samples from Pattie’s L’oreal Shampoo ad (1966,) her Smith’s Crisps ad (1963,) and “A Hard Day’s Night” (dir. Richard Lester, 1964) Follow @thedollspod on Instagram for clips and photos from this episode!

    1h 18m
4.5
out of 5
44 Ratings

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The Dolls Podcast spotlights ladies from the 60s and 70s who inspire cohosts Emma Rosa Katharina and Abigail Devoe. With each episode they’ll share the story of one actress, activist, musician, groupie, or fashion icon, with the purpose of proving her lasting influence. They may have lived in the time of the Whiskey A Go-Go and Studio 54, but celebrating the women of yesterday still matters today. Keep the shindig going with @thedollspod on Instagram!

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