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Beyond a Reasonable Doubt is a podcast for interviewers: investigators, law enforcement officers, policymakers, scholars, journalists and business or HR executives . ​ It provides listeners with knowledge, historical background and tools to master Investigative Interviewing, a key component in reducing doubt, gathering strong evidence, safeguarding people from miscarriages of justice, and nurturing trust within communities.​ It also sheds light on a collective path towards a better world, guided by the United Nations’ Sustainable Development Goal #16. This goal is a blueprint for fostering peaceful, inclusive societies, ensuring access to justice for all, and developing effective, accountable, and inclusive institutions at every level.​

  1. We're at a tipping point in interrogation practices globally – Emily Alison in conversation with Børge Hansen.

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    We're at a tipping point in interrogation practices globally – Emily Alison in conversation with Børge Hansen.

    Emily Alison, a research associate, author and psychologist at the University of Liverpool, discusses the Orbit method (Observing Rapport-Based Interpersonal Techniques) of investigative interviewing and the importance of rapport building. The Orbit method is a structured approach to communication that focuses on building trust and understanding with the interviewee, ultimately leading to more accurate and reliable information collection. Alison emphasises the need for interviewers to manage their own behavior and adapt to the communication style of the interviewee. She also highlights the shift towards more scientific and ethical approaches to investigative interviewing, as seen in the UN's release of the Méndez principles. Alison encourages individuals to embrace the scientific-based approach of Orbit and to prioritise building rapport in all stages of the interview process.

    51 min
  2. “I'd rather be called naive than tolerant of injustice" - Juan Méndez in conversation with Ivar Fahsing

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    “I'd rather be called naive than tolerant of injustice" - Juan Méndez in conversation with Ivar Fahsing

    Summary Prof. Juan Méndez discusses the launch of the UN Manual on Investigative Interviewing for Criminal Investigations, which aligns police interviewing techniques with human rights standards. The manual aims to make police work more effective and compliant with international law, particularly the prohibition of torture and coercion. The conversation explores the importance of the Méndez principles in the creation of the manual and the need for a shift in police culture. The guests also discuss the power of empathy and effective communication in gathering information and the role of the Fruit of the Poisonous Tree doctrine in preventing torture. The conversation highlights the importance of ethical interviewing practices in the criminal justice system. Takeaways The UN Manual on Investigative Interviewing for Criminal Investigations aligns police interviewing techniques with human rights standards. The manual aims to make police work more effective and compliant with international law, particularly the prohibition of torture and coercion. The Méndez principles played a crucial role in the creation of the manual and provide a policy document for national-level implementation. Empathy and effective communication are essential in gathering accurate and reliable information during interviews. The Fruit of the Poisonous Tree doctrine puts pressure on the police to obtain evidence legally and prevents the use of evidence obtained through illegal means. Ethical interviewing practices are crucial in building trust and confidence in the criminal justice system.

    37 min
  3. Innovation and AI in Norwegian Policing

    12/18/2025

    Innovation and AI in Norwegian Policing

    Discover how Norwegian police are transforming investigative work through innovation and artificial intelligence. Join host Børge Hansen (CEO, Davidhorn) in conversation with three experts from Norway's law enforcement community: Kjeld Hendrik Helland-Hansen and Oddvar Moldestad (Forensic Investigators, Western Police District) and Bente Skattør (Senior Advisor ICT and Innovation, Norwegian Police). This episode examines the integration of AI in investigative interviewing, advances in crime scene investigations, and the critical importance of accountability when deploying AI tools. The speakers discuss challenges in keeping pace with criminal innovation, the necessity for operational efficiency, and how international collaboration strengthens policing practices. They also address the cultural shift required within police organisations to embrace innovation while navigating bureaucratic complexities.

    58 min
  4. The Art and Science of Child Interviewing with Triangle

    12/01/2025

    The Art and Science of Child Interviewing with Triangle

    In this episode, we speak with Carly McAuley and Maxime Cole from ⁠Triangle, a UK-based organisation specialising in investigative interviewing of children ⁠and vulnerable adults. Carly McAuley and Maxime Cole shared with us Triangle's approach to investigative interviewing with children and vulnerable adults. The conversation explores how very young children - even two and three-year-olds - can provide reliable, court-admissible evidence when interviewed using appropriate techniques. Triangle's expertise challenges long-held assumptions about children's capabilities and demonstrates that the quality of evidence obtained depends entirely on the adult interviewer's communication skills, not the child's inherent abilities.

    59 min
  5. PEACE and Orbit - a conversation with Prof. Laurence Alison

    03/19/2025

    PEACE and Orbit - a conversation with Prof. Laurence Alison

    ** LIVE at Davidhorn Police Interview Summit 2025 ** This conversation explores the nuances of interviewing techniques in law enforcement, focusing on the Orbit model and its relationship with the PEACE model. Prof. Laurence Alison and Dr. Ivar Fahsing discuss the importance of evidence-based practices, cultural influences on police interviewing, and the evolution of techniques over time. They reflect on their early careers and the challenges faced in implementing effective interviewing strategies across different countries. This conversation delves into the evolution of investigative psychology, focusing on decision-making processes within law enforcement, the importance of training and certification for detectives, and the potential role of technology and AI in enhancing interviewing techniques. The speakers reflect on their experiences and research, emphasising the need for better systems and training to improve investigative outcomes.

    37 min
  6. The Barnahus Revolution: How a Small Nation Changed Child Protection Forever

    02/16/2025

    The Barnahus Revolution: How a Small Nation Changed Child Protection Forever

    This conversation explores the development and impact of the Barnahus model in Iceland, a pioneering approach to child protection and justice for victims of sexual abuse. Bragi Guðbrandsson shares insights from his 25-year involvement in establishing Barnahus, detailing the challenges faced in the Icelandic child protection system, the innovative solutions implemented, and the model's influence on child advocacy across Europe.

    58 min
  7. Rethinking the Interrogation Room: Professor Eric Shepherd on Ethical Interviewing

    01/30/2025

    Rethinking the Interrogation Room: Professor Eric Shepherd on Ethical Interviewing

    Dr. Ivar Fahsing chats about the transformative world of investigative interviewing with Prof. Eric Shepherd, highlighting its profound evolution. They explore the global influence of Mendez Centers, advocating for ethical interviewing techniques that challenge traditional, confession-focused police practices. Emphasising the importance of respect, empathy, and understanding cultural differences, the discussion reveals how these elements are crucial in enhancing the rapport and effectiveness of interviews. Prof. Shepherd critiques the practical problem-solving approach in policing, which often prioritises expediency over ethics, and underscores the necessity of a conversation-driven interview process founded on mutual respect and ethical integrity. The episode also touches on the impact of organisational culture on interviewing techniques, the significant effects of witness interview quality on suspect interviews, and the urgent need for research on the role of legal advisors and the strategic disclosure of evidence. This insightful conversation marks a pivotal shift towards more respectful, effective, and ethically grounded investigative practices.

    55 min
  8. Reshaping investigative practices for the better - conversation with Prof. Dave Walsh

    01/30/2025

    Reshaping investigative practices for the better - conversation with Prof. Dave Walsh

    In this conversation, Professor Dave Walsh and Dr. Ivar Fahsing discuss the ImpleMendez initiative, which aims to implement the Mendez Principles in investigative interviewing practices globally. He highlights the importance of collaboration across various disciplines, the evolution of interviewing techniques, and the significance of reflective practice and ongoing training. The conversation also touches on cultural considerations in interviewing and the future of investigative interviewing, emphasising the need for a standardised approach to improve outcomes in the criminal justice system.

    44 min
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Beyond a Reasonable Doubt is a podcast for interviewers: investigators, law enforcement officers, policymakers, scholars, journalists and business or HR executives . ​ It provides listeners with knowledge, historical background and tools to master Investigative Interviewing, a key component in reducing doubt, gathering strong evidence, safeguarding people from miscarriages of justice, and nurturing trust within communities.​ It also sheds light on a collective path towards a better world, guided by the United Nations’ Sustainable Development Goal #16. This goal is a blueprint for fostering peaceful, inclusive societies, ensuring access to justice for all, and developing effective, accountable, and inclusive institutions at every level.​

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