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The Dugout is a weekly Black anarchist podcast hosted by Prince Shakur & Jordan. We bring radical, decolonial, and queer takes on politics, movements, and media, covering everything from Black anarchism and Afro-pessimism to uprisings, direct action, and liberation struggles worldwide. Have ideas, reading recs, or want to be a guest? Email us. Consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod

  1. 6d ago

    “Solidarity Has To Have Teeth”: Palestine, Abolition, and Building Struggle Across Borders — with Noura & F12

    In this episode of The Dugout, we sit down with organizers Noura and F12 for a conversation about Palestine, abolition, Afropessimism, international solidarity, and what it actually takes to sustain struggle. What does it mean to travel to Palestine without romanticizing struggle? What is “protective presence,” and what can international organizers actually offer communities living under occupation? How does the occupation control not only land and movement, but people's relationship to time, planning, and the future itself? -------------------------------------- About the Guests Noura is an Oakland-based Palestinian American organizer. The daughter of refugees from the 1967 War, she has spent over two decades in international solidarity and non-violent direct action. She spent years organizing with the Stop Urban Shield Coalition to successfully dismantle militarized police expos in California. Noura Instagram: @bint_fulusteen Faz3a Pal Instagram: @faz3a_pal F12 is a Sacramento-based Black radical organizer, writer, and abolitionist. After spending 14 years incarcerated, they expanded their work into internationalist solidarity, engaging in hands-on protective presence work in the West Bank, and much more. F12 Substack: https://substack.com/@toussaintf12 F12 Instagram: @toussaintf12 -------------------------------------------- BOOKS & MEDIA MENTIONED George Jackson — Blood in My EyeAnarcho-BlacknessStolen Youth: The Politics of Israel’s Detention of Palestinian ChildrenThe Life and Work of George Jackson — Anasi’s Library documentary -------------------------------------------- 0:00 — Intro: What does solidarity actually demand of us in moments of crisis? 2:37 — Introductions: Nora and F12 3:04 — "What was young you like?" 11:39 — Follow-up: Was your depoliticization tied to familial trauma and survival/assimilation? 17:24 — What brought you into a deeper, lifelong organizing practice? 26:47 — How did you each first start getting involved with the Palestinian liberation movement? 43:52 — Can you talk about how the opportunity to go to Palestine came about, and what that material work looked like? 56:28 — What sort of traps do activists get caught in when thinking about traveling for solidarity work? 1:01:18 — Reflection: local privilege in solidarity movements and the "romanticism" of solidarity 1:06:40 — What's it like to travel as a decolonial organizer engaged in a cause so heavily based in land struggles, and how does that translate to organizing on Turtle Island? 1:14:28 — What does actionable decolonization look like, and why do people romanticize other struggles but not see their own lives as part of it? 1:25:26 — What alternative systems or decolonial economic practices have you seen in Palestine? 1:29:58 — How does anti-Blackness show up in movement spaces, and how do we build past aesthetic radicalism? 1:37:42 — What does state repression look like, and what does care work for each other look like? 1:37:58 — "How are you staying sane?" ---------------------------------------------

    “Solidarity Has To Have Teeth”: Palestine, Abolition, and Building Struggle Across Borders — with Noura & F12

  2. Jul 20

    Why Southern History Changes Everything W/ On Our Own Authority

    Modibo Kadalie and Andrew Zonneveld sit down for a conversation about the moments that shaped their politics over decades of organizing. Modibo reflects on the decision to resist the Vietnam draft and leave the United States, while both discuss what it was like raising children alongside anti-war organizing, how the history of Georgia and the Black South continues to influence their thinking, and where they see Pan-Africanism today. They also share what’s next for On Our Own Authority Publishing and close by reflecting on the movements, struggles, and everyday acts of resistance that continue to give them hope for the future. -------------------------------- 00:00 Intro 00:50 what was it live to make the decision to leave the USA 13:37 how was engaging in social movements as a new parent 22:18 how does being in Georgia impact your politics 31:34 what is the state of Pan-Africanism in your eyes 34:16 what are some new books or projects On Our Own Authority is planning? 43:14 What is giving you hope ---------------------------------------------- Community Books https://community-books.com/ Support Community Books on Patreon On Our Own Authority https://on-our-own-authority-publishing.square.site/ www.oooabooks.org --------------------------------------------- Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more: 🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/ 🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠ 🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠ 🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠ 🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠ 🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠ 🔗 Watch Prince Shakur on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10Ug

    Why Southern History Changes Everything W/ On Our Own Authority

  3. Jul 18

    Writing History from Below W/ On Our Own Authority Modibo Kadalie & Andrew Zonneveld Part 1/2

    What does it take to build revolutionary institutions that last? In Part 1 of this interview, we’re joined by Andrew and Modibo of On Our Own Authority, a radical publishing collective and community bookstore in metro Atlanta. Together, we discuss the politics of publishing, preserving movement history, and creating spaces where revolutionary ideas can be studied, debated, and put into practice. The conversation explores Black radical traditions, oral history, direct democracy, social ecology, independent bookstores, and why movements need physical spaces that outlive social media and political trends. Along the way, we reflect on writing history from below, the role of archives in liberation struggles, and what it means to build intellectual and cultural infrastructure rooted in collective power rather than hierarchy. 01:26 Intro 05:14 what was a young you like 10:51 Origins of The Dugout 14:13 How does the Dugout see our work being preserved or impactful 17:53 what have you learned through the process of having a bookstore 29:36 how has your approach to publishing evolved? 35:57 what key changed have you made to make model ore sustainable 10:46 Atlanta Radical Book fair 44:57 what does de-centering heroes in history look like? Community Books https://community-books.com/ Support Community Books on Patreon On Our Own Authority https://on-our-own-authority-publishing.square.site/ www.oooabooks.org --------------------------------------------- Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more: 🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/ 🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠ 🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠ 🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠ 🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠ 🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠ 🔗 Watch Prince Shakur on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10Ug

    Writing History from Below W/ On Our Own Authority Modibo Kadalie & Andrew Zonneveld Part 1/2

  4. Jul 14

    Why We Don't Love Amerikkka

    As the United States marks its 250th anniversary, we ask a simple question: what does America mean to those living through its violence today? From expanding state repression and political prisoners to the mythology of the Fourth of July, we reflect on what it means to reject nationalism while committing ourselves to solidarity, community, and revolutionary struggle. Along the way, we discuss the Prairie Land defendants, Baldwin's complicated relationship to America, the future of resistance, and what it takes to build movements that can survive the years ahead. -------------------------------------------- EPISODE CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro 09:53 Why do we care 17:01 What are ways to engage with the propaganda of July 4th 36:46 Reading and discussion of Notes of a Native Son by James Baldwin 42:53 Reading Gord Hill 49:40 Reflection ---------------------------------------------- Mentioned Media: BOOKS  📚The Counter Revolution of 1836 Texas slavery & Jim Crow and the roots of American Fascism by Gerald Horne  🔗⁠ In The Belly Magazine: https://inthebelly.squarespace.com/ Support independent bookstores by purchasing with our affiliate link on through Bookshop.org: https://bookshop.org/lists/what-we-re-reading-at-the-dugout  OTHER MEDIA 🔗 Defending Dissent In Texas: An Interview with DFW Prairieland Defense Committee —--------------------------------------------- Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more: 🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/ 🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠ 🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠  🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠ 🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠ 🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠ 🔗 Watch Prince Shakur  on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10Ug

    Why We Don't Love Amerikkka

  5. Jul 9

    I.C.E. Just Killed Again... And It's More Than A Pattern

    🔗 Support the fundraiser for Lorenzo Araujo's family: https://www.gofundme.com/f/in-loving-... I saw this news story and knew I had to make this video. Lorenzo Salgado Araujo, a 52-year-old father of three who was shot and killed by an ICE officer during an immigration operation in Houston. We look at the contradictions in the case, why Lorenzo's family is demanding an independent investigation, and how ICE keeps relying on familiar claims about "perceived threats" and vehicles being used as weapons to justify deadly force. I also place this case in the broader history of policing, immigration enforcement, and the expanding power of the carceral state. ------------------- Watch on Prince's Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkzWK1MDJjw Show Notes on Prince's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/prshakur/posts/i-c-e-just-again-163343424 -------------------- EPISODE CHAPTERS 00:00 Intro 01:08 Details of the murder of Lorenzo Salgado Araujo 02:59 Discrepancies in state and I.C.E. narrative 13:44 Why this matters so much TO ME - growing up with an incarcerated undocumented father 18:06 Angela Davis in BLACK POWER MXTAPE on the hypocrisy of state and white supremacist violence 21:50 How the state and I.C.E. justified lethal force 24:40 Considerations for a path forward - independent investigations, abolition and beyond --------------------- Show Notes Primary sources on Lorenzo Salgado Araujo case: PBS NewsHour – "A Mexican father was shot and killed by an ICE officer, his son is demanding an independent probe"https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/a-mexican-father-was-shot-and-killed-by-an-ice-officer-his-son-is-demanding-an-independent-probe The Guardian – Coverage of the son's response and calls for an independent investigation, includes the Sosa-Celis and Ruben Ray Martinez caseshttps://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jul/08/texas-ice-shooting-victim-son The Intercept – "ICE, DHS, and social media / white supremacist violence"https://theintercept.com/2026/05/21/ice-dhs-social-media-white-supremacist-violence/ ----------------------------------- Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more: 🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/ 🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠ 🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠  🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠ 🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠ 🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠ 🔗 Watch Prince Shakur  on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10Ug

    I.C.E. Just Killed Again... And It's More Than A Pattern

  6. Jun 29

    The Spook Who Sat By The Door: Most Radical Black Film of the 70s?

    We sit down to talk about THE SPOOK WHO SAT BY THE DOOR; Based on the novel by Sam Greenlee, the film follows Dan Freeman, the first Black CIA officer, who uses the counterinsurgency and intelligence tactics he learns from the U.S. government to train Black militants in Chicago and build an underground revolutionary movement. We explore its gender politics and the limited role afforded to women in its revolutionary vision, the hierarchical model of organizing it presents, and the ways the film reproduces familiar masculine revolutionary archetypes centered on secrecy, military discipline, and charismatic male leadership. Fifty years later, The Spook Who Sat by the Door remains essential viewing for what it imagines about liberation and the questions it leaves unresolved. Read the book, THE SPOOK WHO SAT BY THE DOOR (affiliate link): https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9780814349571 To watch the movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG-56GKbPtk Check out ANARCHISM ON FILM Letterboxd list: https://letterboxd.com/thedugoutpod/list/anarchism-on-film-w-the-dugout-a-black-anarchist/ ---------------------------- Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more: 🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/ 🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠ 🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠  🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠ 🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠ 🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠ 🔗 Watch Prince Shakur  on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10Ug

    The Spook Who Sat By The Door: Most Radical Black Film of the 70s?

  7. Jun 21

    The Impact of STAR / Street Transvestite Action Revolutionary

    What was STAR, and why does its legacy still matter today? In this episode, we dive into the history of Street Transvestite Action Revolutionaries (STAR), the radical organization founded by Sylvia Rivera and Marsha P. Johnson. We trace STAR's origins, its mutual aid and housing programs, and its role in the broader struggle for queer and trans liberation. We also examine the realities of state repression, discuss current conditions facing LGBTQ+ communities, and reflect on what organizers today can learn from STAR's vision of collective care and survival. Mentioned Media: BOOKS  📚THE STONEWALL READER 📚STAR Booklet Media Pay It No Mind - The Life and Times of Marsha P. Johnson afterlivespod.com/ Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more: 🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/ 🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠ 🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠  🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠ 🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠ 🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠ 🔗 Watch Prince Shakur  on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10Ug

    The Impact of STAR / Street Transvestite Action Revolutionary

  8. Jun 13

    Learning Economics As Anarchist W/ Brooke From Strangers In A Tangled Wilderness

    What can economics teach anarchists, organizers, and people trying to build a different world? Jordan sits down with Brooke of Strangers in a Tangled Wilderness and Live Like the World Is Dying for a conversation on economics, anarchism, and building alternatives to capitalism. Brooke shares her journey from journalism student to economist, bookkeeper, and organizer while breaking down economic concepts in accessible terms. Together, they explore how economic systems shape our lives, why understanding them matters for social change, and what cooperative, participatory, and anarchist approaches to economics might look like in practice. From central banking and inflation to co-ops, buying clubs, and collective ownership, this episode is an invitation to think critically about how we organize resources Mentioned Media: together or not at all: TangledWilderness.org/zines/together-or-not-at-all-digital —--------------------------------------------- Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more: 🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/ 🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠ 🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠  🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠ 🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠ 🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠ 🔗 Watch Prince Shakur  on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10Ug

    Learning Economics As Anarchist W/ Brooke From Strangers In A Tangled Wilderness
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The Dugout is a weekly Black anarchist podcast hosted by Prince Shakur & Jordan. We bring radical, decolonial, and queer takes on politics, movements, and media, covering everything from Black anarchism and Afro-pessimism to uprisings, direct action, and liberation struggles worldwide. Have ideas, reading recs, or want to be a guest? Email us. Consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod

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