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The Dugout is a weekly Black anarchist podcast hosted by Prince Shakur & Jordan. We bring radical, decolonial, and queer takes on politics, movements, and media—covering everything from Black anarchism and Afro-pessimism to uprisings, direct action, and liberation struggles worldwide. Have ideas, reading recs, or want to be a guest? Email us. Consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod

  1. Understanding Antisemitism in Black America

    4D AGO

    Understanding Antisemitism in Black America

    This episode we examine antisemitism in the black community. What is antisemitism, how does it function, and how does it show up within Black communities? We begin with a reading and reaction to James Baldwin’s essay “Negroes Are Anti-Semitic Because They’re Anti-White.” Baldwin challenges us to think about proximity to power, resentment, and how racial hierarchy shapes perception. His analysis helps clarify how anger at structural oppression can become misdirected toward visible groups rather than systems. We then turn to contemporary controversies, including recent comments from Kanye West and narratives about “Jewish media.” We discuss how conspiracy thinking simplifies complex systems of power into ethnic blame and how this connects to certain strands of Black conservatism 0:00 – Opening / Cold Open0:49 – Introduction2:24 – What Is Your Relationship to Antisemitism?9:37 – Reading & Reaction: “Negroes Are Anti-Semitic Because They’re Anti-White” By James Baldwin15:26 – How Do We Approach Standing Up to Antisemitism in Our Communities?16:26 – More Reflection on the Baldwin Piece21:57 – Kanye Interview27:11 – Reflection on Clip30:49 – Kanye’s Point on BLM and Where It Misses32:18 – Prince’s Party Story36:34 – Black Antisemitism and Black Conservatism43:39 – Outro Mentioned Media: James Baldwin Essay“Negroes Are Anti-Semitic Because They’re Anti-White”https://nykolami.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/26/2017/12/James-Baldwin-Article.pdf Kanye West Interview Clip Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more: 🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/ 🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠ 🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠ 🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠ 🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠ 🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠ 🔗 Watch Prince Shakur on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10Ug Chapters

    45 min
  2. Mini Ep: Intro to Zolo Azania

    FEB 11

    Mini Ep: Intro to Zolo Azania

    This episode centers on Zolo Agona Azania, a former political prisoner, artist, and organizer who spent more than three decades incarcerated before his release in 2017. Drawing from an interview published as a zine, the episode follows Zolo’s account of his early life, imprisonment, political study, and the challenges of reentry. Support Zolo at https://www.patreon.com/zoloazania/ Cahshapp: $ZoloAzania Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more: 🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/ 🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠ 🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠  🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠ 🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠ 🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠ 🔗 Watch Prince Shakur  on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10Ug

    8 min
  3. How Communities Are Resisting I.C.E. Terror With Rapid Response

    FEB 7

    How Communities Are Resisting I.C.E. Terror With Rapid Response

    In this episode, we reflect on recent rapid response movements, what it's felt like to process the rising state violence (especially the threats of more I.C.E. raids in Springfield, OH). Then we move on to unpack community defense and rapid response movements in Twin Cities area and beyond with the following pieces... Rapid Response Networks in the Twin Cities (CrimethInc) – How organizers built decentralized, trust-based networks to respond quickly to ICE raids and police escalation. https://crimethinc.com/2026/01/15/rapid-response-networks-in-the-twin-cities-a-guide-to-an-updated-model From Minneapolis: I’ve Never Seen Unity Like This (Margaret Killjoy) – A firsthand account of collective refusal and mutual aid under federal repression. https://margaretkilljoy.substack.com/p/from-minneapolis-ive-never-seen-unity Crossing the Line: It Really Is Safer in the Front (CrimethInc) – On crowd defense, solidarity, and confronting ICE and federal agents together. https://crimethinc.com/2026/01/29/crossing-the-line-it-really-is-safer-in-the-front-surrounding-the-portland-ice-facility The Noise: Demonstrations Keeping ICE Awake (CrimethInc) – Why unpredictability and escalation matter in confronting federal power. https://crimethinc.com/2026/01/27/the-noise-demonstrations-keeping-ice-agents-awake-at-their-hotels-a-model-from-the-twin-cities Eight Things You Can Do to Stop ICE / Seven Steps to Stop ICE (CrimethInc) – Practical guides for resisting deportation and building collective defense. https://crimethinc.com/zines/8-things-you-can-do-to-stop-ice https://crimethinc.com/zines/seven-steps-to-stop-ice When the Feds Come to Your City (CrimethInc) – Lessons from Chicago organizers on preparing for federal escalation. https://crimethinc.com/2025/12/03/when-the-feds-come-to-your-city-standing-up-to-ice-a-guide-from-chicago-organizers Our Neighbors in Minneapolis (Margaret Killjoy) https://margaretkilljoy.substack.com/p/our-neighbors-in-minneapolis ------------------------------------------ EPISODE CHAPTERS 07:50 READING & REFLECTIONS onRapid Response Networks in the Twin Cities (Crimethinc) 30:49 READING & REFLECTIONS on Crossing the Line: It Really Is Safer in the Front (Crimethinc) 39:08 READING & REFLECTIONS on The Noise: Demonstrations Keeping ICE Awake (CrimethInc) 50:00 READING & REFLECTIONS on From Minneapolis: I’ve Never Seen Unity Like This (Margaret Killjoy) 55:30 READING & REFLECTIONS on Our Neighbors in Minneapolis (Margaret Killjoy) -------------------------------------------- Topics include: ICE surges and repression • TPS and immigration enforcement • Rapid response networks • Protest tactics and escalation • Solidarity under state violence • Organizing in moments of crisis -------------------------------------------- Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more: 🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/ 🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠ 🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠  🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠ 🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠ 🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠ 🔗 Watch Prince Shakur  on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10Ug

    1h 3m
  4. Rojava Today: Reflections on Existential Moments in an Enduring Movement

    JAN 30

    Rojava Today: Reflections on Existential Moments in an Enduring Movement

    In this episode, we’re joined by Isabella, an internationalist who has been involved in multiple institutions of the Rojavan Revolution and is currently on the ground in Syria. Together, we trace her personal journey into the revolution and explore the political, social, and feminist structures that have sustained Rojava through years of war, pressure, and transformation. We discuss the foundations of the Rojavan Revolution and DAANES, the role of Mala Jin, Jinwar, and Jineology, and the development of Kongra Star as the vanguard of the women’s revolution. Isabella shares insights into how revolutionary structures endure, how patriarchal attitudes are challenged in practice, and what strategies have proven effective over time. The conversation also turns to the present moment: the media ecosystem in Rojava, the role of democratic confederalism, current conditions on the ground, and the evolving political landscape involving the Syrian Transitional Government, DAANES, and the SDF. We close with reflections on lessons from the Kurdish Freedom Movement and where listeners can go to stay informed. 02:59 — Who Is Isabella04:04 — What Was Isabella’s Youth Like04:54 — What Is the Rojavan Revolution & DAANES10:25 — Mala Jin Introduced11:35 — Jinwar Introduced14:38 — Introduction to Jineology19:53 — Jineology as Structure & Publication23:24 — Kongra Star as the Vanguard of the Women’s Revolution27:11 — How Kongra Star Started27:22 — What Structures Have Helped the Revolution Survive / How Do You Get Men to Listen?31:54 — Strategies for Shifting Patriarchal Attitudes35:05 — The Media Ecosystem in Rojava38:00 — How Independent Media Is Being Received40:32 — Democratic Confederalism in the Region48:22 — Current Conditions in Rojava55:56 — The Syrian Transitional Government & Its Relation to Syria and Kurdistan60:00 — DAANES / SDF Narratives & Conditions Under the Assad Regime01:03:09 — Response to STG Decree on Kurdish Rights & Political Demands of DAANES/SDF01:04:23 — Final Reflections & Lessons from the Kurdish Freedom Movement01:07:00 — Where to Stay Informed The Women’s War (iHeartRadio)https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-the-womens-war-59464911/(Includes reporting on Jinwar and the women’s revolution in Rojava) Kongra Star (Women’s Movement)https://kongra-star.org/eng/homepage/ Mala Jin (Women’s Houses)https://kongra-star.org/eng/mala-jin/ Jinwar – Women’s Villagehttps://mesopotamia.coop/coops/jinwar/ https://jinwar.net/ Kurdish Red Crescent (Heyva Sor a Kurd)https://heyvasor.com/en/ Rojava Information Centerhttps://rojavainformationcenter.org/ Revolution in Rojava: Democratic Autonomy and Women’s Liberationhttps://www.plutobooks.com/product/revolution-in-rojava/ Rojava: Revolution, War and the Future of Syria’s Kurdshttps://pmpress.org.uk/product/rojava-revolution-war-and-the-future-of-syrias-kurds/ Rojava in Focus (AK Press)https://www.akpress.org/rojava-in-focus.html Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) – Twitter/Xhttps://twitter.com/SDF_Syria Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more: 🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/ 🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠ 🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠  🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠ 🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠ 🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠ 🔗 Watch Prince Shakur  on Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10Ug ChaptersResources & Further ReadingPodcastsOrganizations & ProjectsMedia & InformationBooks Social / Updates

    1h 8m
  5. One War, Many Fronts

    JAN 25

    One War, Many Fronts

    In this episode of The Dugout, we start with a mental health check-in and reflections on our goals for 2026, then move straight into the chaos of the moment: ICE activity in Central Ohio, shifting global conflicts, and what non-campist solidarity actually looks like when empires, states, and militias all claim to be the answer. We talk about Venezuela, Iran, Kurdistan, Greenland, and Sudan — including scenes from El Fasher — to make sense of how one system of domination shows up across many places and in many forms. We dig into new developments in repressive technology, the rumored DEA–ATF merger, and what it means to organize under expanding surveillance and policing. Finally, we sit with the psychological weight of living inside constant crisis: how to process endless media, how to stay grounded, and why “retreat” is different from surrender. We close with reflections on Diane di Prima’s Revolutionary Letter #18 and what it offers those trying to remain human while resisting empire. One war. Many fronts. The same fight for dignity, survival, and freedom Time Codes 01:20 Intro and mental health check-in 10:33 Goals for 2026 and The Dugout 14:05 What the f**k has been going on 14:32 ICE in Central Ohio 16:00 International non-campist news: Venezuela, Greenland, Iran, and Kurdistan 33:02 Why non-campist solidarity matters and how 36:39 Scenes from El Fasher, Sudan 37:45 Repressive tech updates 49:51 DEA and ATF merger?? 51:31 How do we process so much media and stay sane 54:49 What we’re seeing right now that’s making us concerned 59:19 Do not flee America — retreat 1:05:48 Closing: Revolutionary Letter #18 (Diane di Prima) Mentioned Media CrimethInc – Rapid Response Networks in the Twin Cities (2026)https://crimethinc.com/2026/01/15/rapid-response-networks-in-the-twin-cities-a-guide-to-an-updated-model “Being ready for the incoming surge of ICE enforcement in your city… means studying the terrain… Start studying, planning, connecting, and experimenting now.” 404 Media – ICE contracts company making “bounty hunter” AI agentshttps://www.404media.co/ice-contracts-company-making-bounty-hunter-ai-agents/ ACLU – DHS is circumventing the Constitution by buying location datahttps://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/dhs-is-circumventing-constitution-by-buying-data-it-would-normally-need-a-warrant-to-access FOIA documents page:https://www.aclu.org/cases/aclu-v-department-homeland-security-commercial-location-data-foia#legal-documents 404 Media – Inside ICE’s tool to monitor phones in entire neighborhoods (geofencing)https://www.404media.co/inside-ices-tool-to-monitor-phones-in-entire-neighborhoods/ Texas Observer – Texas police invest in Tangles surveillance softwarehttps://www.texasobserver.org/texas-police-invest-tangles-sheriff-surveillance/ Texas Observer – Texas DPS $5.3 million Tangles contracthttps://www.texasobserver.org/texas-dps-surveillance-tangle-cobwebs/ LA Times – ICE / Border Patrol operations (Dodger Stadium example)https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-11-04/ice-border-patrol-dodger-stadium-parking-lot Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more: 🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/ 🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠ 🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠  🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠ 🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠ 🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠ 🔗 Watch Prince Shakur  on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10Ug Anti-ICE organizing / MinneapolisICE, AI, and surveillance techICE operations context

    1h 9m
  6. Germán Gonzalez of The Stanford 11 on Pro-Palestine Protests, Felony Charges, and Campus Repression

    JAN 17

    Germán Gonzalez of The Stanford 11 on Pro-Palestine Protests, Felony Charges, and Campus Repression

    In this episode of The Dugout, we talk to Germán Gonzalez, one of the Stanford 11 and one of five students facing felony charges after intense repression during the pro-Palestine encampment movement at Stanford University. We break down how Gonzalez’s family background in El Salvador radicalized them to be in solidarity with Palestine, the rising tide of 2023/2024 student encampment movements, the university and local repression leading to trumped up charges, and what it means to hold your ground in the face of genocide, war profiting, and censorship. To stay up to date on Stanford 11 case…. To support the Stanford 11 and folks going on trial, there is a support/action tool-kit: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRlHj6fh3wc7nmMaaXppZetvYG4A0gqCH8IIlht8XuPs8yTMtc39zPOw-MXXn3ndgON9_Id6zhceblx/pub Stanford Students for Justice in Palestine: https://www.instagram.com/stanfordsjp/ ----------------------------------------- To learn more about resources mentioned in the episode: Bay Area for Gaza Mutual Aid Linktree: https://linktr.ee/bayarea4gaza Trial begins for Stanford students for occupying offices in pro-Palestinian protest: https://apnews.com/article/propalestinian-stanford-protesters-trial-c62bba681be05a52cc50b5bd78f8ec58 Pro-Israel Advocates Are Weaponizing “Safety” on College Campuses https://theintercept.com/2024/03/28/safety-college-columbia-stanford-antisemitism-israel-palestine/ One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This by Omar El Akkad One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This is a 2025 non-fiction book by Omar El Akkad that serves as a memoir and manifesto, exploring Western hypocrisy, imperialism, and the disillusionment of marginalized communities, particularly in the context of the Gaza genocide. https://www.nationalbook.org/books/one-day-everyone-will-have-always-been-against-this/ The Battle of Algiers (dir. Gillo Pontecorvo, 1966) A searing, semi-documentary account of Algeria’s anti-colonial struggle against French occupation, showing how urban insurgency and state repression feed each other. Long treated as a manual by both revolutionaries and counterinsurgents, it exposes how “security” becomes a language of colonial control. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpn4Htfrv88&pp=ygUVVGhlIEJhdHRsZSBvZiBBbGdpZXJz0gcJCU0KAYcqIYzv The Hundred Years’ War on Palestine by Rashid Khalidi (2020) [affiliate link]  A sweeping political history of Palestine told through lived experience, tracing a century of settler colonialism, dispossession, and resistance from 1917 to the present. Khalidi frames Palestine not as a “conflict,” but as an ongoing colonial war backed by Western power. https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781250787651 Morning in Jenin by Susan Abulhawa (2010) A multigenerational novel following a Palestinian family displaced by the Nakba, capturing how loss, memory, and love survive under occupation. The book humanizes Palestinian life beyond headlines, showing how violence reverberates across decades. https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781608190461 Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung (“The Little Red Book,” 1964) A collection of Mao’s writings on revolution, discipline, and mass struggle that shaped 20th-century liberation movements worldwide. Widely read by anti-imperialist and Black radical organizers, it emphasized political education, collective discipline, and resistance to imperial domination. https://bookshop.org/a/109212/9781088280515 Want to read books we’ve covered or have been talked about on THE DUGOUT? Check out our affiliate link Reading List to support the podcast: https://bookshop.org/lists/what-we-re-reading-at-the-dugout

    1h 22m
  7. Reflecting On Season 2 Of The Dugout

    12/14/2025

    Reflecting On Season 2 Of The Dugout

    This year, we've put out over 50 episodes, almost double what we did in Season 1, and we learned a lot. From interviews with Ohio organizers/farmers to political thinkers online to former Black Panther Party and Black Liberation army members; to breakdowns of 101 topics like PROPERTY, CAPITALISM, and beyond. Now we want to reflect and thank you all for listening! Season 2 Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3op9939LV5uWX3tYSkISfs?si=1cc2f360135b42b1 ----------------------------- Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more: 🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/ 🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠ 🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠  🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠ 🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠ 🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠ 🔗 Watch Prince Shakur  on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10Ug

    55 min
  8. Defending Dissent In Texas: An Interview with DFW Prairieland Defense Committee

    12/08/2025

    Defending Dissent In Texas: An Interview with DFW Prairieland Defense Committee

    In this episode, we sit down with members of the DFW Defense Committee to break down the state and federal repression facing local organizers and community members. We begin with who the defendants are and their relationship to the defense work, then move into what’s happening on the ground beyond the state’s narrative. Our guests reflect on the lives and commitments of the defendants before their arrests and trace how state repression has materially shaped their lives and the broader community. They outline major takeaways from this moment, including how the state is revealing its hand, and explain the differences between state and federal charges. We also explore how prosecutors, the DOJ, ICE, and the media have misled the public, what defense committee work actually looks like, and the moments of clarity that have emerged throughout this process. As the episode closes, our guests share what support is most needed for the defendants and the committee, followed by final reflections from Hannah and Xavier. This conversation offers a grounded, first-hand look at criminalization, solidarity, and the work required to hold each other through targeted repression. Chapters 00:00 Intro 01:33 Who are you and what is your relation to the DFW defense work? 02:43 How would you describe what is happening beyond the states narrative? 05:03 What kind of community members and organizers were some of the defendants before their arrest? 12:09 How has the repression from the state played out materially? 16:05 What are important takeaways form this moment and how they state is paying their hand? 18:37 What is the difference in the state and federal charge 20:51 What are thing that the prosecution, doj, ice, and media have been doing to mislead people in this case? 29:23 What has the defense committee work been like? 36:15 Have you found any moments of clarity in this process that you want to share? 38:44 What forms of support do the defendants and defense committee need currently? 42:22 Hannah's last thoughts 45:01 Xavier's last thoughts ----------------------------------------- Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more: 🔗OUR WEBSITE: https://www.thedugoutpodcast.com/ 🔗 ⁠Instagram⁠: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/dugoutpodcast/⁠ 🔗 ⁠Substack⁠: ⁠https://tdugout.substack.com/⁠  🔗⁠YouTube⁠: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@thedugoutpod⁠ 🔗 ⁠Patreon⁠: ⁠https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod⁠ 🔗 ⁠OUR LINKS⁠: ⁠https://bio.site/thedugoutpodcast⁠ 🔗 Watch Prince Shakur  on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMMgrSHWLLU4U_FnJ1u10Ug

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The Dugout is a weekly Black anarchist podcast hosted by Prince Shakur & Jordan. We bring radical, decolonial, and queer takes on politics, movements, and media—covering everything from Black anarchism and Afro-pessimism to uprisings, direct action, and liberation struggles worldwide. Have ideas, reading recs, or want to be a guest? Email us. Consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/TheDugoutPod

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