WANA Presents: For The Record With David McClam

David McClam

Welcome to the podcast that uncovers the truth amidst a web of lies. Originally created to defend a friend from false accusations, we now face relentless harassment from a duo and their followers who aim to silence us and bury the facts. Here, you’ll witness the unfolding of a real true crime saga as I stand up for my friend and others. All the evidence will be made available on our Reddit for you to see. This is a rebuttal podcast like no other—because sometimes, standing up for what’s right is the only way to bring the truth to light.

  1. Oct 24

    No Way Jose: Anthony, Your Own Lawyer Put It In Writing

    For all of the recipes in the episode and others. Check and join our SubStack If the information you are looking for is not there, check back as it will be coming soon! In this episode of We Are Not Afraid Presents: For The Record With David McClam, David examines the correspondence and court filings behind the Anthony Christopher case, focusing on what the attorneys actually wrote, when they wrote it, and how those documents compare with the version listeners have heard elsewhere. At the center of the episode are several specific questions: When was the theft of LaDonna Humphrey’s phone disclosed? Was there actually a November 8 deadline to surrender the phone? Did LaDonna refuse electronic examination altogether? And what did her attorney argue about the disputed evidence? The first key document is a November 13, 2018 email from LaDonna’s attorney, Tom Stockland, notifying opposing counsel that LaDonna’s car had been broken into and that her purse and phone had been stolen. Christopher’s attorney, Glenn Ritter, responded that same day and discussed the reported theft while requesting emergency court attention. David argues that this contemporaneous exchange is important because it establishes when the theft was disclosed and when opposing counsel acknowledged it. The episode then turns to the claim that the phone was stolen on the very evening LaDonna was supposedly required to turn it over to a third-party expert. David asks for the order, agreement, or appointment establishing that specific November 8 deadline. The records discussed in the episode instead show attorneys still negotiating expedited discovery afterward, with the judge’s office later stating that discovery would proceed “in due course.” Another major document comes from Christopher’s own attorney. On November 16, Ritter wrote that the parties had “agreed on the terms of Humphrey’s Gmail account search by Pivot.” The agreement set out search terms, dates, original email headers, IP information, account-registration data, and procedures for reviewing potentially private or privileged material. David argues that any blanket description of LaDonna refusing all electronic examination must account for this written agreement. The episode also examines LaDonna’s October 30 affidavit. David emphasizes the chronology: the affidavit describes deletion of employment emails tied to her September departure from the business, while the later preservation proceedings occurred afterward. His argument is that an earlier admission cannot automatically be treated as proof of a later violation without evidence establishing that later act. A restored page from Stockland’s trial brief adds another layer to the defense. The brief disputes attribution of spoofed messages, argues that receiving or forwarding a communication is not the same as originating it, and explains LaDonna’s reports to authorities regarding alleged business misconduct. David stresses that the brief is advocacy, not an independent finding, but argues that it remains an important contemporaneous record of what the defense was actually contesting. The phone and SIM evidence also receives closer scrutiny. David discusses the Benton County detective’s finding that there was no evidence of a false theft report after correcting a time-zone issue, while also acknowledging the later adverse civil findings. He reviews Stockland’s arguments about the replacement phone, SIM information, disputed interpretations of phone records, shared-password access, and the need to distinguish an expert conclusion from a full explanation of how competing evidence was evaluated. The episode does not ignore the outcome of the civil case. David acknowledges that the state court made serious findings against LaDonna, including contempt and spoliation, struck her pleadings, established liability, and later entered a damages judgment of approximately $3.57 million. His argument is narrower: those outcomes do not erase the underlying emails, agreements, and disputed chronology that preceded them. At the heart of this episode is a simple demand for precision. If there was a November 8 phone-handover deadline, produce the document. If LaDonna refused all electronic examination, explain the November 16 Gmail agreement. If the defense raised substantive objections at the time, address those objections directly rather than pretending they never existed. David’s position is that people can disagree about the case while still expecting dates, agreements, court records, and source documents to be presented accurately. Because a judgment answers some legal questions. It does not rewrite the paper trail. Anthony, your own lawyer put the agreement in writing. Javier, your audience deserves to hear what it says.

    No Way Jose: Anthony, Your Own Lawyer Put It In Writing
  2. Oct 21

    No Way Jose: The Voices Challenging Pretend

    For all of the recipes in the episode and others. Check and join our SubStack If the information you are looking for is not there, check back as it will be coming soon! In this episode of We Are Not Afraid Presents: For The Record With David McClam, David highlights two voices he believes deserve more attention in the ongoing conversation surrounding Javier Leiva, PRETEND, and accountability in true-crime media: Liam Bosonnet and CaseStudyz. David argues that when journalists and podcasters build their work around scrutinizing the conduct of others, their own reporting should remain open to the same level of examination. His criticism of PRETEND centers on what he describes as sensational framing, ridicule, disputed conclusions, and reporting choices that can continue affecting real people long after an episode ends. The episode begins with Liam Bosonnet, author of The Woman They Made a Monster, which examines the Dee Dee Blanchard case from a perspective that challenges the familiar public narrative. David praises Liam’s willingness to revisit a heavily debated case, engage with the available evidence, and put his reasoning before an audience willing to question established assumptions. David also recognizes CaseStudyz, whose YouTube coverage has contributed to the discussion surrounding Javier Leiva and PRETEND. He encourages listeners to examine the channel’s work, consider the evidence being presented, and judge the arguments for themselves. The larger theme is simple: Do not accept a narrative merely because it has been repeated often enough. Examine the sources. Examine the claims. Examine the receipts. David also discusses his petition calling for a boycott of PRETEND and an independent review of concerns raised about its reporting. The petition identifies twenty issues across multiple series, including factual mistakes, previously published corrections, unresolved questions, and disputed editorial framing. Importantly, David distinguishes between those categories. A confirmed factual error is not the same as an unresolved question. A disagreement over interpretation is not automatically proof of false reporting. And when PRETEND has issued corrections, David says those corrections should be acknowledged. His request is that the remaining concerns receive the same specific treatment: Identify the statement. Produce the supporting evidence. Explain the reasoning. Correct the record when necessary. David also openly discusses his relationship with LaDonna Humphrey, noting that she is his podcast colleague and that he supports her. He argues that listeners deserve to know that relationship while also being able to examine the evidence behind his criticism independently. The episode further addresses the human consequences of true-crime coverage. David argues that criticism of journalism is not simply about dates, technical mistakes, or wording. It is also about how subjects are portrayed, how ridicule is used, and what happens when media attention spills into someone’s professional and personal life. For David, investigative journalism carries an obligation: Accurate sourcing. Fair context. Transparent corrections. Meaningful accountability. Liam Bosonnet and CaseStudyz are highlighted in this episode because they are willing to participate in that broader conversation and put their own arguments before the public for examination. David encourages listeners to seek out their work, ask questions, compare sources, and keep the discussion centered on evidence. Because true-crime storytelling does not end when the episode does. The people being discussed still have to live with the story afterward. And they deserve an audience willing to look closely.

    No Way Jose: The Voices Challenging Pretend
  3. Oct 13

    No Way Jose: NO WAY JOSE: Who’s Investigating the Investigator?

    For all of the recipes in the episode and others. Check and join our SubStack If the information you are looking for is not there, check back as it will be coming soon! In this episode of We Are Not Afraid Presents: For The Record With David McClam, David addresses information reported to him alleging that PRETEND host Javier Leiva is the subject of a federal cyberstalking investigation involving a Reddit profile that targeted a subject of his podcast. David makes an important distinction from the beginning: he has not independently confirmed an official finding against Javier Leiva, and an investigation is not proof of guilt. However, David says he intends to cooperate fully with investigators and provide the evidence in his possession. The allegation raises a much larger question about journalistic independence: What happens if a person reporting on accusations of harassment is also secretly participating in harassment against the very person he is covering? If evidence were to establish that a reporter operated or participated in an anonymous account targeting a subject, the implications could extend beyond the posts themselves. It could raise questions about whether apparent public reaction was truly independent, whether confrontations were being influenced behind the scenes, and whether resulting responses were later presented to an audience without disclosure of the reporter’s own involvement. The episode examines those questions through the principles of journalistic independence, transparency, accountability, and minimizing harm. David also discusses the potential legal distinction between offensive or anonymous online speech and conduct that could satisfy the elements of federal cyberstalking. An anonymous account, criticism, or hostility by itself does not establish a federal crime. Investigators would still have to establish the conduct, intent, and other required legal elements. But the ethical questions remain. If evidence ultimately connects Javier Leiva to the account in question, David argues that PRETEND’s audience deserves clear answers: What was posted? What was encouraged? What involvement existed? And what, if anything, was withheld from listeners? There is also an unavoidable contradiction at the center of the allegation. PRETEND has reported extensively on stalking and harassment, including through The Stalker. If evidence were to show that its own host engaged in similar conduct, the credibility questions would be significant. David’s position is simple: He will provide the evidence he possesses. He will cooperate with investigators. And he will allow the evidence to be examined. Because accountability cannot apply only to the people being investigated. The person holding the microphone does not get to place himself outside the standard of accountability he applies to everyone else.

    No Way Jose: NO WAY JOSE: Who’s Investigating the Investigator?
  4. Oct 9

    No Way Jose: I Sent The Packets-Now Answer The Evidence

    For all of the recipes in the episode and others. Check and join our SubStack If the information you are looking for is not there, check back as it will be coming soon! In this episode of No Way, José, David McClam addresses Javier Leiva’s recent comments about the email packets sent to podcast hosts and other creators who have featured or endorsed his work. David makes one point unmistakably clear from the beginning: He sent the packets. He takes responsibility for the outreach. And any questions about those emails should be directed to him. The packets were sent to people whose audiences may rely on their recommendations, with a request that they independently review concerns involving PRETEND’s reporting and decide whether those concerns affect their own view of the work. David emphasizes that the material contains different categories of issues, including acknowledged corrections, disputed interpretations, editorial concerns, and unresolved questions that still require additional evidence. This episode walks through 60 separate points raised in the email packet, covering multiple PRETEND series and episodes. Among them are questions involving timelines, source attribution, legal terminology, forensic claims, corrections, transcript discrepancies, government records, electronic discovery, financial reporting, and the distinction between what evidence proves and what remains unresolved. The review also includes issues involving the LaDonna Humphrey series, including DHS and Medicaid fraud reporting, TLO access, private versus unlisted videos, disputed communications, phone and SIM evidence, spoofing and location evidence, Lake Hills financial records, and PRETEND’s published correction concerning Oasis revenue. David stresses that the goal is not to inflate every discrepancy into proof of dishonesty. The packet itself distinguishes confirmed mistakes from open questions and emphasizes the need to preserve those differences when evaluating the evidence. The episode also examines a separate revised packet involving the Anthony Christopher litigation. That material raises questions about the alleged phone-handover deadline, when opposing counsel learned about the reported theft, electronic discovery agreements, available sources of digital evidence, disputed forensic interpretations, and the chronology surrounding LaDonna’s affidavit. At the same time, the packet acknowledges the adverse court findings, including contempt, spoliation findings, rejection of the theft account, and the striking of LaDonna’s answer and counterclaim. At the center of the episode is a broader challenge: Address the evidence instead of assigning every criticism to LaDonna. David says that supporting LaDonna does not prove that she directed his actions, and he rejects the idea that his decision to contact other hosts should automatically be attributed to her. He also calls for specific evidence whenever terms such as “stalker” or “harassment” are used. David applies the same standard to his own work. If something in the packet is wrong, identify the specific item and produce the evidence that corrects it. If an unresolved question can now be answered, provide the documentation and allow the assessment to change accordingly. The message of this episode is simple: David sent the packets. David owns the outreach. Now address what is actually in them. Specific claims deserve specific answers. Specific evidence deserves examination. And if the evidence changes, the conclusions should change with it. Bring the evidence.

    No Way Jose:  I Sent The Packets-Now Answer The Evidence
  5. Oct 8

    No Way Jose: Who Contacted Who? The Westboro Story Pretend Did Not Tell You

    For all of the recipes in the episode and others. Check and join our SubStack If the information you are looking for is not there, check back as it will be coming soon! Additional Receipts in this episdode PRETEND's episode page Apple Podcasts Amazon Music PRETEND's published transcript PRETEND's transcript. We Are Not Afraid — my account and rebuttal In this episode of No Way, Jose, David McClam examines a serious allegation published by PRETEND involving Westboro Baptist Church, Anthony Christopher’s LGBTQ establishment, and the claim that David threatened to send Westboro there for a “blood bath.” But what does the available record actually show? David breaks down the language used in PRETEND’s episode description and transcript, including Javier Leiva’s characterization of the alleged threat, and compares it with David’s account of what actually happened. According to David, Westboro Baptist Church contacted him first. He acknowledges that the thought of telling them to mobilize crossed his mind, but says he ultimately chose not to do so because of the potential hatred, confrontation, and violence that could result. The episode also examines Javier’s conversation with Kiah Penfield and raises questions about what happens when someone is asked to react publicly to a serious allegation before independently reviewing the underlying source material. David argues that emotional reactions cannot substitute for verification, especially when the discussion involves Westboro Baptist Church, an LGBTQ establishment, threatened violence, and even references to the Pulse nightclub massacre. At the center of the episode is one challenge: Produce the threat. If David contacted Westboro, show the communication. If he told them to mobilize, produce it. If he threatened Anthony Christopher with Westboro Baptist Church, show the words. If he said he wanted a bloodbath, play the recording in context. David also makes an important distinction between evidence and allegation. Until the original Westboro communication is independently examined and authenticated, his description of that message remains his account. At the same time, PRETEND’s published characterization of the alleged threat is publicly available and can be examined directly. This episode is ultimately about journalistic standards, primary sources, context, and accountability. You do not have to automatically believe David McClam. You do not have to automatically believe Javier Leiva. Check everyone. Read the source material. Examine the evidence. Separate documented fact from characterization. PRETEND has built its reputation around scrutinizing other people’s stories and demanding receipts. Now the receipts are being turned in the other direction. If the threat exists, play it. Until then, we’ll keep reading the receipts.

    No Way Jose: Who Contacted Who? The Westboro Story Pretend Did Not Tell You
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Welcome to the podcast that uncovers the truth amidst a web of lies. Originally created to defend a friend from false accusations, we now face relentless harassment from a duo and their followers who aim to silence us and bury the facts. Here, you’ll witness the unfolding of a real true crime saga as I stand up for my friend and others. All the evidence will be made available on our Reddit for you to see. This is a rebuttal podcast like no other—because sometimes, standing up for what’s right is the only way to bring the truth to light.

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