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Catalight is changing how the world supports people with autism along with other intellectual and developmental disabilities. We’re building a more equitable future through innovative care solutions, research, and open conversations. Join us as we explore groundbreaking research, hear from experts, and uncover new ways to empower individuals and families. Together, we can create a world where everyone thrives.

  1. Jul 28

    Ep. 18 - The Divorce of Behavior Analysis and Psychology

    Behavior analysis and psychology used to be one and the same. But, over time, the two disciplines split and the effects of that rift are still shaping autism support today. Lindsey is joined by Dr. Lauryn Toby and Erica Ranade, behavior analysts with backgrounds in psychology and the creators of the popular ‘Psychobabble BCBAs’ Instagram channel, to examine what happened when behavior analysis separated from its psychological roots. As the field grapples with renewed scrutiny around issues like overbilling, fraud and the quality of care, they argue that understanding how behavior analysis evolved is more important than ever. While the split helped behavior analysis establish itself as a rigorous scientific discipline, they believe it also left behind valuable elements of psychology, including therapeutic relationships, child development, consultation, collaboration and clinical judgment. Through conversations about the history of the field and the challenges it faces today, they discuss how reconnecting with psychology's broader understanding of human behavior doesn't mean abandoning the science of behavior analysis – it’s all about strengthening it. By looking back at where the field came from, they make the case that bringing the best of psychology and behavior analysis back together could help create more individualized, compassionate and effective autism support for the future.   Resources/references mentioned in this episode: The Psychobabble BCBAs website: https://www.thepsychobabblebcbas.com/ The Psychobabble BCBAs Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thepsychobabblebcbas “Psychology Essentials for Behavior Analysts” edited by Lauryn Toby and Erica Ranade: https://www.routledge.com/Psychology-Essentials-for-Behavior-Analysts/Toby-Ranade/p/book/9781032844183 or Amazon.com: Psychology Essentials for Behavior Analysts: 9781032844183: Toby, Lauryn M., Ranade, Erica S.: Books Lindsey Sneed’s CEU class with Hoosier ABA on parent mediated training on Aug. 7 (open to all): https://www.hoosieraba.org/event-details/august-hoosier-happy-hour Hoosier Association for Behavior Analysis 2026 (Oct. 14-16): https://behaviorlive.com/conferences/hoosierABA2026/home

  2. Jul 2

    Ep. 17 - Saying the Quiet Parts Out Loud

    Many critical conversations about the autism care industry are only happening behind closed doors. This isn't one of them. Sean Yocum, BCBA, has built a reputation for saying what many clinicians are thinking but aren't always willing to state publicly. As one half of the Rad N’ Bad podcast and founder of Hickory Learning Group, Sean isn't afraid to challenge practices and ruffle a few feathers along the way. In fact, that's why he and co-host Mike Carrero embraced the idea of being the industry's "bad guys." Sean joins Lindsey for a candid conversation about why thoughtful criticism isn't something the autism field should fear. It’s a powerful force for progress. They talk about why parent-mediated intervention deserves a larger role in autism care, whether today's service models still reflect the evidence they were built upon, the incentives that shape how autism services are delivered, value-based care and what meaningful outcomes should actually look like. Drawing from his own childhood growing up alongside his autistic brother, Sean shares how his family's experiences with early autism services inspired him to enter the field and ultimately led him to question many of its most entrenched practices. He explains why he left traditional service models to build Hickory Learning Group around parent-mediated care, family empowerment and the belief that the best clinicians should be working themselves out of a job. And, for the first time, Sean gives his ‘villain’ origin story of how he and Mike intentionally created a space where difficult conversations could happen openly. A podcast walking the fine line between criticizing an industry and strengthening it – using evidence, philosophical doubt and a healthy dose of humor to challenge ideas without losing sight of the families they're trying to serve. Resources mentioned: Dr. Lindsey Sneed on the Rad N’ Bad podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-11-who-the-hell-is-that-lindsey-sneed-the/id1818091909?i=1000724745012 The full Rad N’ Bad podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/in/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast/id1818091909 Rad N’ Bad YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChZmTXgytPbkj9Qw-D5QuLw Hickory Learning Group: https://www.hickorylearninggroup.org/

  3. Jun 10

    Ep. 16 - Needless Suffering

    Sometimes behavior isn't a behavior problem. Sometimes aggression is actually dental pain. Sometimes refusal to eat is acid reflux. Sometimes a sleepless night, or a sudden outburst or a dramatic change in mood is a person's only way of communicating that something is wrong. Sometimes these are actually underlying medical issues that practitioners and physicians simply aren’t seeing because they don’t have the right training.   Lindsey sits down with Dr. Craig Escudé, one of the nation's leading experts in healthcare for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities (I/DD), to explore a blind spot hiding in plain sight: the gap between behavioral and medical care. Drawing on nearly 30 years of experience, Dr. Escudé explains why behavior is communication, how clinicians and physicians alike can miss critical underlying health issues, and why many medical professionals receive little to no formal training on caring for people with I/DD. The consequences can be profound – from unnecessary suffering to missed diagnoses and preventable hospitalizations. Lindsey and Craig discuss the dangers of diagnostic overshadowing, the importance of seeing people as people first rather than diagnoses, and the systemic changes needed to ensure more equitable care. With approximately 1 in 6 people in the United States living with one or more developmental disabilities or delays, the need for better training, stronger collaboration and integrated care has never been more clear. Resources mentioned in this episode: - Curriculum in IDD Healthcare eLearning course: Curriculum in IDD Healthcare eLearn - IntellectAbility - IntellectAbility’s free IDD Perspectives webinar series:  Webinars - IntellectAbility - Free resources and articles from IntellectAbility: Intellectual Disability Services, Intellectual Disability Definition - Dr. Craig Escudé’s book: Clinical Pearls in IDD Healthcare: Second Edition - IntellectAbility - Dr. Craig Escudé’s podcast: IDD Health Matters Podcast - Catalight hospitalization study: Large-Scale Study Finds Autistic Youth Far More Likely to Be Hospitalized for Mental Health Conditions - Catalight - Catalight sleep study: Study Links Poor Sleep to Increased Risky Behavior Among Autistic People - Catalight

  4. May 12

    Ep. 15 - A System Built for Behavior, Not Humanity

    Autism and other I/DD treatment is often designed around behavior. But people are more than just behavior. They’re humans with families, wants, needs and their own goals. In BCBA training, behavior analysts are taught to think of humans in terms of “organisms” – a clinical, scientific lens that, unfortunately, first shapes how care is delivered. What that lens is blind to is what matters most – the human experience. Lindsey sits down with Dr. Tracy Raulston, a BCBA, researcher and professor at Texas State University, whose work focuses on family-centered care and parent-mediated intervention, to ask the question, “Why is family-centered care such a novel concept to the autism industry?” There’s been a system built for behavior, but not always built to support individuals, parents, caregivers and families. Lindsey and Tracy explore what it really means to center families in care while discussing the limitations of traditional training models, the overlooked importance of working with caregivers and the reality that most care doesn’t happen in a clinic – it happens in homes, in routines and in everyday life. Links:  Catalight Academy – RUBI course: https://www.catalightacademy.org/program/rubi?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=organic Catalight Academy – Live RUBI workshops: https://www.catalightacademy.org/program/rubi-workshop?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=organic Catalight Academy – RUBI advanced certifications: https://www.catalightacademy.org/program/rubi-advanced-certification?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=organic   Project ImPACT: Project ImPACT ABAI conference (5/22/26) – Empowering Families Through Everyday Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA): A Workshop on Parent-Mediated Interventions (PMI) Implementation: Event Detail - Association for Behavior Analysis International ABAI conference symposium (5/24/26) – Expanding Access and Effectiveness in Parent-Mediated Behavioral Interventions: Event Detail - Association for Behavior Analysis International ABAI conference skill building – Writing Effective, Evidence-Based Goals for Autistic Individuals: A Neuroaffirming Approach (5/25/26): Event Detail - Association for Behavior Analysis International

  5. 09/04/2025

    Ep. 13 - Evidence Will Sometimes Break Your Heart (and That’s OK)

    Evidence is evidence, right? Binary. Black and white on paper. Well, not really. “Evidence-based” isn’t as simple as people would like to make it out to be. And, if you truly want to be objective and find real answers, you must be open to the idea that your assumptions may not hold up while simultaneously maintaining an openness to learn. Prolific researcher Micheal Sandbank, Ph.D., joins Lindsey to discuss what “evidence-based” really means. They examine what makes a good study, what quality research entails and ask, “evidence for what exactly?” The two talk about how evidence is being used as ammunition in the autism care industry and how people’s strong, unchanging convictions are creating camps in the field – a schism that is hurting kids and families in need. Dr. Sandbank is a professor at the University of North Carolina and the lead of Project AIM, a comprehensive meta-analysis of all non-pharmacological interventions designed for young autistic children, which was selected as one of the ‘Top Advances in Autism Research’ by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. You can find her research here. Micheal was a keynote speaker at Catalight's virtual Elevate Your Impact conference earlier this year. The virtual event, occurring next on March 12 and 13, 2026, is open to everyone around the world with continuing education opportunities for those who qualify. Learn more or register here: https://elevateyourimpact.org/. You can also apply to be a speaker here: Call for Papers - Elevate Your Impact: Evidence in Action

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Catalight is changing how the world supports people with autism along with other intellectual and developmental disabilities. We’re building a more equitable future through innovative care solutions, research, and open conversations. Join us as we explore groundbreaking research, hear from experts, and uncover new ways to empower individuals and families. Together, we can create a world where everyone thrives.

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