The Automated Lawyer

The Automated Lawyer
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"The Automated Lawyer," hosted by St. Louis attorneys Dan Schnurbusch and John Fritz, is your guide to optimizing legal practice through technology. This podcast focuses on practical tech solutions for lawyers, covering essential topics like CRM systems, communication tools, document automation, and no-code platforms. Dan and John share insights on building effective tech stacks, streamlining operations, and enhancing client experiences. Join them for actionable advice on leveraging technology to practice law more efficiently and enjoyably, regardless of your firm's size or specialty.

  1. 08/22/2025

    AI Model Updates & Task Management Woes

    Revamping Legal Tech: AI Agents, Task Management, and Automation | The Automated Lawyer PodcastJoin John Fritz and Dan Schnurbusch in this episode of The Automated Lawyer Podcast as they discuss their hiatus, the back-to-school season, and notable advancements in law tech. They delve into the hype surrounding Chat GPT-5, user experiences with AI models, and the potential of AI in therapy and professional help. The hosts also explore the intricacies of task management in law firms, integrating AI in voice agents, and tips for effective automation. Tune in for a deep dive into making legal tech work better for your practice.00:00 Introduction and Podcast Welcome00:39 Back to School and Family Life01:57 Tech World Updates: ChatGPT-504:32 AI in Therapy and Mental Health07:09 AI in Automobiles08:29 Affordable AI Models for Business12:22 Custom GPTs and Legal Applications16:39 Task Management Challenges27:32 AI Summaries and Client Sentiment Analysis28:16 Task Management Challenges29:15 Exploring Task Management Solutions30:29 Balancing Task Automation and Team Autonomy33:26 Daily Huddles and Task Prioritization35:39 AI Integration in Legal Tech38:59 Customizing Legal Tech for Specific Needs49:10 Tips for Implementing AI Voice Agents53:51 Conclusion and Tips of the Week

    54 min

  2. 06/13/2025

    Data, AI, and Legal Practice: Paul Bamert of Case Status

    Transforming Legal Efficiency with Applied AI: Insights from Paul Bamert of Case StatusIn this episode of The Automated Lawyer, hosts John Fritz and Dan Schnurbusch discuss the transformative role of applied AI in the legal industry with Paul Bamert. They explore how AI is helping legal staff save time and enhance client experiences. From understanding ethical considerations to leveraging large language models like ChatGPT and Gemini, the conversation delves into practical applications, client engagement, data security, and future advancements in legal technology. Tune in for a deep dive into how technology can reshape legal practices and ensure better outcomes for all.00:00 Data, AI, and Legal Practice: Paul Bamert of Case Status00:14 Introduction and Casual Chat01:05 Introducing the Guest03:06 Diving into AI and Legal Tech06:20 Data Security and Ethical Considerations09:07 Client Experience and AI Integration13:30 Future of AI in Legal Services21:33 Exciting Developments and Future Plans23:06 Exploring the Future of APIs and UX23:24 The Impact of Large Language Models25:38 AI in Marketing and Development27:27 Leveraging AI for Executive Summaries32:46 Insights from Other Industries32:53 The Martini Test: Client Satisfaction43:05 Marketing Tips and AI Integration44:50 Conclusion and Podcast Wrap-Up

    46 min

  3. 05/29/2025

    5/29 TAL Podcast - Rachel McGarry

    The Automated Lawyer Podcast: Exploring Legal Tech with Rachel McGarryIn this episode of The Automated Lawyer Podcast, hosts John Fritz and Dan Sch Busch return from a short break and are joined by special guest Rachel McGarry from McGarry Law Office. Rachel shares her journey from growing up in a family-run law firm to becoming a legal tech consultant. She discusses her unique law school experience during the COVID-19 pandemic and her focus on integrating and optimizing legal tech tools like Clio and Airtable in law firms. The conversation delves into the challenges and opportunities of implementing AI in legal practice, the evolving landscape of legal technology, and practical advice for law firms looking to enhance their operations. Tune in for an insightful discussion on the future of legal tech and actionable tips for staying ahead in the rapidly changing legal industry. Dan's Airtable course: https://learning.lawtomation.legal/courses/airtable-case-management-lawyers 00:00 5/29 TAL Podcast - Rachel McGarry00:15 Welcome to the Automated Lawyer Podcast01:18 Introducing Our Special Guest: Rachel McGarry02:04 Rachel's Journey into Legal Tech08:07 The Role of Legal Tech in Law School12:21 Challenges and Innovations in Legal Tech15:37 Implementing Tech Solutions in Law Firms18:18 The Importance of Automation and AI22:10 Exploring API and Storage Solutions26:25 Recording Calls and Legal Implications30:13 Clarifying AI Disclosure Requirements30:58 Handling Client Confidential Information with AI31:41 AI Tools for Legal Practices34:42 Exciting AI Use Cases in Law41:11 The Future of AI in Legal Industry44:37 Implementing AI Voice Agents53:31 Tips and Recommendations

    58 min

  4. 04/18/2025

    Agent vs. Human vs. Traditional Automation: Are agents a savior or something more nuanced?

    In this episode of the Automated Lawyer Podcast, hosts John Fritz and Dan Schnurbusch discuss the temptations and pitfalls of relying too heavily on technology in legal practices. Topics include the power and limitations of AI, practical applications of automation in law firms, the importance of maintaining a balance between tech and human elements, and strategies for client care and business growth. The duo also explore potential use cases for AI agents in areas such as scheduling, email triage, case management, and KPI analysis. They emphasize the importance of understanding where technology can genuinely add value versus where traditional methods may still hold an advantage.00:00 Agent vs. Human vs. Traditional Automation: Are agents a savior or something more nuanced?00:19 Introduction and Weekend Recap01:15 Gardening Adventures and DIY Projects03:46 The Value of Disconnecting from Technology04:31 Exploring AI Agents in Legal Practice07:52 Practical Applications of AI Agents10:42 Future of AI in Case Management19:03 Balancing Automation and Human Oversight27:21 Balancing Workload and Hiring Decisions29:22 Traditional vs. Automated Law Firm Models31:51 Learning from Non-Tech-Driven Businesses35:11 Exploring Automation Opportunities in Law Firms40:17 The Importance of KPIs and Data Analytics45:45 Tech Tips and Final Thoughts

    51 min

  5. 03/31/2025

    Leveraging AI for Client Happiness, Team KPIs and Bonuses

    In this episode of the Automated Lawyer Podcast, hosts John Fritz and Dan Schnurbusch discuss the importance of balancing automation with human interaction in client experiences for legal practices. They dive into practical applications of AI for improving client communication and operational efficiency while highlighting the risks of over-automation. John and Dan share personal insights, such as the benefits of rapid case filing and the introduction of an automated bonus system for their teams. They also explore the exciting possibilities of AI tools for home design and video generation, emphasizing the need to consider client preferences. Practical tips on optimizing the customer journey through technology are offered, making this episode a must-listen for legal professionals keen on leveraging AI effectively.00:00 Leveraging AI for Client Happiness, Team KPIs and Bonuses01:19 The Role of Automation in Client Experience03:58 Balancing Automation and Human Interaction07:32 Using AI for Client Communication08:50 Organizational Benefits of AI14:22 Case Management and Filing Strategies21:01 Tracking Milestone Revenue and KPIs21:33 Optimizing KPI Dashboards23:21 Revenue Tracking Systems26:29 Bonus Structures and Team Incentives28:52 Automated Bonus Systems34:43 Exploring ChatGPT's New Image Capabilities38:36 Combining AI Tools for Enhanced Marketing40:11 Podcast Conclusion and Community Invitation

    41 min

  6. 03/10/2025

    The Human Advantage in a World of AI and Automation

    Automation and Empathy: The Future Intersection of AI and LawIn this episode of the Automated Lawyer Podcast, hosts John Fritz and Dan Schnurbush delve into the fascinating intersection of artificial intelligence and the legal profession. The discussion covers the benefits and challenges of using AI and automation, the human touch in client services, and improvements in voice AI technology. They introduce a breakthrough project involving AI-based statutory research and debate the future applications of AI agents in legal practice. The hosts also explore the pressures of maintaining client relationships amidst automation and argue for the importance of human empathy in the ever-advancing tech landscape. Closing with insights on valuable tech tools and industry advancements, this episode offers a comprehensive look at how the legal industry can balance innovation with client-focused service.00:00 Introduction to the Automated Lawyer Podcast00:30 Hosts' Personal Updates and Weather Talk03:46 Automating Legal Research with AI07:26 Exploring Advanced Voice AI13:15 The Human Element in AI and Legal Practice18:33 Balancing Client Experience and Profitability19:19 The Power of Client Advocacy21:34 The Role of Client Happiness Director23:15 Human Interaction vs. Automation24:02 The Future of AI in Law Firms31:21 Exploring AI and API Integration37:28 Tech Tips and Tools42:25 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    43 min

  7. 02/07/2025

    Law in the Era of Agents - OpenAI Operator and Deep Research in Law Firms

    Exploring AI Automation in Legal Practices: Innovations and Practical ApplicationsIn this episode of The Automated Lawyer Podcast, co-hosts John Fritz and Dan Schnirbush delve into the latest advancements in AI automation for legal practices. They discuss the potential impact of automating operator flows and share personal anecdotes about the importance of tools like heated steering wheels and reliable weather. Special attention is given to AI tools from FileVine and OpenAI, detailing their capabilities, limitations, and future improvements. The hosts also highlight the benefits of creating custom GPTs for specific judicial behaviors and the importance of using visuals like the 'Domino's Pizza Tracker' to enhance client communication. The episode wraps up with practical tips for leveraging AI in law practice management and encourages listeners to join their online community for further discussions.00:00 Law in the Era of Agents - OpenAI Operator and Deep Research in Law Firms00:13 Introduction and Casual Chat01:52 AI and Automation in Legal Tech03:25 FileVine and Case Management Systems05:03 Challenges and Opportunities with AI08:11 Developments in AI Tools09:57 Big Tech and AI Integration15:58 Future of AI in Legal Practices17:10 Automating Client Workflows18:06 Operator Flows and Chain of Thought Reasoning19:10 Starting Small with Limited Functionality19:41 Practical Applications in Law Firms23:23 Deep Research and AI Capabilities27:43 Legal Research and AI Integration33:14 Tips of the Week36:58 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    38 min

  8. 01/24/2025

    AI is about to get spooky

    Unveiling the Future: AGI and AI Integration in Legal Practice In this episode of the Automated Lawyer Podcast, host Dan Schnurbusch provides an in-depth update on the latest advancements in artificial intelligence (AI) and automation. Dan, flying solo as co-host John Fritz is out of town, discusses his recent presentation on AI and automation at the Maximum Lawyer Mastermind in Scottsdale. The episode dives into the current state of AI, touching on the rapid progress towards Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) and its imminent capabilities. Dan talks about significant figures like Leopold Aschenbrenner and Sam Altman, their predictions, and the implications of reaching AGI. He also highlights practical applications of AI in legal practice, including using reasoning models for legal analysis, leveraging automated workflows, and integrating AI tools into existing software. The episode concludes with actionable tips for incorporating AI into practice today and a look at upcoming developments that promise to revolutionize the field. 00:00 Introduction and Host Update 00:45 Recap of Maximum Lawyer Mastermind 02:57 Fascination with AI and Sci-Fi 06:23 AI's Rapid Advancements 17:04 Implications of AI Research 23:45 Stargate Project and National Security 27:11 OpenAI Operator and AI Agents 29:46 AI Performance Benchmarks 30:43 Impressive AI Capabilities 31:20 Real-World AI Applications 33:21 The Future of AI Integration 36:37 Upcoming AI Developments 38:29 Practical AI Use Cases 46:20 AI in Existing Tools 49:47 Automated Workflows with AI 53:51 Conclusion and Tips

    57 min
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"The Automated Lawyer," hosted by St. Louis attorneys Dan Schnurbusch and John Fritz, is your guide to optimizing legal practice through technology. This podcast focuses on practical tech solutions for lawyers, covering essential topics like CRM systems, communication tools, document automation, and no-code platforms. Dan and John share insights on building effective tech stacks, streamlining operations, and enhancing client experiences. Join them for actionable advice on leveraging technology to practice law more efficiently and enjoyably, regardless of your firm's size or specialty.

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    The Automated Lawyer
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2025
  • Episodes
    30
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