Surgeons with Purpose

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A podcast for surgeons who feel like they are languishing in a career that didn't turn out to be as fulfilling or as prestigious as they expected. Dr. Mel Thacker, an ENT surgeon and coach, takes you on a journey to help you understand why you are feeling dissatisfied, burnt out, and stuck. With this newfound insight, you'll be able to reframe how you see your experience, rediscover who you are underneath your surgeon identity, and create a life that aligns with your authentic self. Find more info about Surgeons with Purpose and other shows on the Hippocratic Collective at hippocratic-collective.com

  1. 12h ago

    #102 Becoming a Surgeon with Purpose with Dr. Cameron Roth

    What kind of surgeon are you becoming? Take the quiz here. Join us inside Empowered Surgeons Group here. Check out Behind the Sports Medicine Podcast here and follow them on instagram here. Dr. Cameron Roth is a fellowship-trained orthopedic doctor specializing in hand, wrist, and upper extremity surgery and co-host of the podcast, Behind the Sports Medicine Podcast. In this episode we talk about what it actually feels like to finish training and go out into the world as an attending for the first time when the buck stops with you. We talk about imposter syndrome and the real divide between how men and women experience the culture of surgery, particularly orthopedic surgeons. We touch on the fallacy of certainty. You train under one attending who tells you there is one right way to do things. Then you rotate to another attending who tells you the same thing about a completely different technique. Both are certain. Both are wrong about their certainty. We also get into the first complication after training, and how it hits differently than anything you experienced as a resident. We consider whether being a woman in surgery might be a superpower, or, perhaps, that surgery selects for badass women. The extra scrutiny, the bias, the being underestimated, done consciously, can produce antifragility. Not just toughness. The capacity to grow stronger under pressure. I think every surgeon, regardless of gender, needs to hear this reframe. We also cover what genuine availability to patients looks like versus the kind that breeds resentment, and what it means to show up for patients from service energy rather than fear. This one is for every surgeon who has ever stood at the scrub sink before a hard case and wondered why their career doesn't feel like they thought it should.

    1h 6m

  2. Jun 8

    #101 Finding Opportunities in Sham Peer Review with Dr. Tracey O'Connell

    Join us inside Empowered Surgeons Group here. Sham peer review can be one of the most devastating threats facing surgeons today. But it doesn’t have to. Physician, educator, and coach, Dr. Tracey O'Connell, pulls back the curtain on a reality most surgeons don't see coming until they're already inside it. This conversation is sobering. It is necessary. And it ends with a message of genuine hope: that the surgeon who protects herself, serves her patients, and diversifies her professional identity is also the surgeon who is hardest to destroy. What Is Peer Review, and What Is Sham Peer Review? Legitimate peer review is a quality assurance process initiated when a patient, fellow physician, or staff member reports that a physician failed to meet the standard of care or acted improperly. A hospital committee reviews the case, the physician may testify and present evidence, and a determination is made. Sham peer review is something else entirely. It is the weaponization of that same process for personal, competitive, or political reasons, not to protect patients, but to target a physician. It is used to intimidate, silence, retaliate, and in some cases, end careers. Sham peer review is defined as “the abuse of a medical peer review process to attack a doctor for personal or other non-medical reasons." Physicians most at risk are those employed by large hospital systems. How Often Does This Happen? The honest answer is that precise data is hard to come by, and that itself is part of the problem. Many cases are buried under non-disclosure agreements or never reported because physicians are too isolated, too afraid, or too ashamed to speak. What we do know - 56% of U.S. physicians surveyed by Medscape report higher concern that peer review could be misused to punish them for reasons unrelated to the case being reviewed. - At least 10% of peer review investigations are estimated to be sham peer reviews used to weaponize the process rather than ensure quality care. - 15% of physicians surveyed in a 2007 AMA investigation indicated awareness of peer review misuse or abuse. - Hospital disciplinary actions, including suspected sham peer reviews, average 2.5 per year per hospital, according to National Practitioner Data Bank (NPDB) records. - In Texas alone, 68% of adversely peer-reviewed physicians in 2004 were later adjudicated by the Texas Licensing Board, meaning the reviews were found to be without merit, yet their NPDB reports remain. The pattern is hard to see because it happens in the confidential, protected setting of hospital committees. But the incidence and severity are increasing. What You Must Know about the NPDB: The NPDB was originally created to prevent physicians who had committed dangerous acts from crossing state lines and practicing without consequence. A legitimate and necessary tool, in theory. In practice, it has become one of the most powerful weapons in a sham peer review. Key facts Dr. O'Connell wants every surgeon to understand: - Do not resign while a review is underway. Resignation during an active peer review or Performance Improvement Plan (PIP) can trigger an adverse report to the NPDB and, critically, waives your right to challenge the review. This is one of the most common and devastating mistakes physicians make. - The only person who can remove an NPDB report is the person or institution that created it. Once reported, removal requires cooperation from the very party that filed it. - An NPDB report does not have to end your career. This is important. While it can be weaponized as an indicator of incompetence, it is not an automatic career death sentence. Many physicians navigate NPDB reports and continue to practice successfully. - Get legal representation early. Do not wait. Find an attorney with specific experience in sham peer review and NPDB reporting requirements before the process accelerates. The Psychological Weight of This Reality: Dr. O'Connell is direct. This is depressing to know about. It is genuinely sad that the systems designed to protect patients are being turned against the physicians who serve them. The isolation is real. Physicians under review are often told not to discuss the matter with colleagues. This is a deliberate strategy, and it works. Physicians blame themselves. They question their competence. They feel shame. They feel alone. Dr. O'Connell's core message: a sham peer review is not a reflection of your worth as a physician or as a person. It is, in many cases, a reflection of institutional politics, competition, and the absence of adequate legal protections for doctors. We must be able to survive this psychologically and emotionally. Resources: Physician Just Equity (PJE) Founded by Dr. Pringl Miller, MD, FACS, PJE is a 501(c)3 organization of 50 physicians, all of whom have experienced workplace injustice and are dedicated to preserving justice in medicine. PJE offers free, confidential peer support teams for physicians navigating conflicts. They are also collecting data on the nature of workplace conflicts and the career trajectories of physicians after workplace injustice. Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) 1-800-635-1196 Sham Peer Review Hotline: 719-627-7759 AAPS is the only national medical association actively helping physicians fight sham peer review. Their general counsel, Andy Schlafly, has stated plainly: "The biggest misconception about sham peer reviews is a denial of how pervasive they are." AAPS offers free legal consultation for physicians facing a sham peer review. Dr. Lawrence Huntoon, MD, PhD — AAPS Dr. Huntoon has run the AAPS sham peer review hotline for over 20 years and is one of the foremost experts on recognizing and combating sham peer review. His resources include: - Sham Peer Review: Resources for Physicians - Sham Peer Review: Recognizing Possible Early Warning Signs Center for Peer Review Justice A resource for physicians who want to get back to work and avoid expensive legal battles. Dr. Tracey O'Connell's Writing - The Sham Peer Review: A Hidden Contributor to the Doctor Shortage — KevinMD, July 2024 - Sham Peer Review: Strategies for Saving Your Career and Soul — KevinMD, October 2024 The surgeon who is most vulnerable to sham peer review is the surgeon whose entire identity, livelihood, and sense of self is housed in one institution, role, and set of privileges. When that is taken away or threatened, everything collapses. The surgeon who is hardest to destroy is the one who has built differently. This brings us back to the three essentials of a resilient surgical career: 1. Protect Yourself as the Asset You are the most valuable instrument in the operating room and in your career. That means investing in your psychological health, your self-concept, and your ability to weather attacks that are not about your competence. Sham peer review is designed to make you question your worth. The surgeon who has done identity work, who knows who she is separate from her title, her privileges, and her outcomes, is the surgeon who survives. 2. Serve the Patients Staying anchored in your purpose is both a psychological and a strategic act. The surgeon who takes actions genuinely in service to patients, not to institutional approval, compensation, politics, or accolades, is the surgeon who makes clean decisions, communicates clearly, and builds a reputation that outlasts any investigation. 3. Diversify Your Professional Identity This is the structural protection. A surgeon whose identity and income are entirely dependent on one skillset has no leverage and no safety net. Diversifying through speaking, writing, coaching, consulting, or building an independent practice creates not only financial resilience but psychological resilience. You cannot be completely silenced if you have a platform that doesn't belong to the institution. The medicolegal, interpersonal, and politically-motivated landmines of a surgical career are real. Sham peer review is one of the most dangerous. The best protection is not legal; it is architectural. Build yourself in a way that no single institution can dismantle. Dr. O'Connell is a resource for you! Learn more about how she can help you here.

    1h 12m

  3. Jun 1

    #100 Surgery's Kangaroo Courts with Dr. Christian Bowers

    Join us inside Empowered Surgeons here. Every surgeon enters the profession knowing the clinical risks. Complications happen. Patients are unhappy. Outcomes fall short. That is part of the contract. But what about the other risks? The systemic and structural ones that have nothing to do with how compassionate of a human you are, how good of a diagnostician you are, or how slick of a technician you are? You got into this to take care of people. But the system was designed to protect patients from bad actors, and those protections can be weaponized against good doctors for nefarious reasons. In this 100th episode, neurosurgeon Dr. Christian Bowers joins me for an unfiltered convo about the systems governing physician careers and the gap between what those systems were designed to do and how they actually function. Dr. Bowers draws on years of watching colleagues' careers upended to illuminate what no one teaches in training. "The thing that could totally derail someone's career overnight, with no fault of their own, is never discussed," — Dr. Christian Bowers THE KANGAROO COURTS Academic medical centers operate as large corporations with financial incentives that diverge from physician protection.The house always holds the cards, and that matters for surgeons who find themselves in its crosshairs.A predetermined outcome can be built through paper trails before a physician ever knows they are being targeted. SHAM PEER REVIEW The "disruptive physician" label is legally vague, subjectively applied, and the starting point for building a paper trail.Things that were never a problem before all of a sudden become problems when an institution has decided to move on from you.HCQIA (1986): designed to protect peer reviewers from retaliation, with the unintended consequence of making bad-faith reviews difficult to challenge.A small group of aligned physicians often leads the charge, which makes this harder to see coming. DARVO Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender: the pattern coined by psychologist Jennifer Freyd that Dr. Bowers has seen play out repeatedly in institutional settings.Physicians who have never heard of this concept are the most vulnerable to it.DARVO typically shows up alongside sham peer review. THE ROLE OF PIPS, THE MEDICAL BOARD, AND THE NPDB Performance improvement plans and professionalism reviews are tools institutions use alongside sham peer review when they have decided to move on from a physician.Medical board complaints and NPDB reporting are downstream consequences that can encumber a physician's ability to find their next position.The damage is typically done upfront.The goal of legal counsel is protecting you for the next job, not saving the current one. THE ACGME & STRUCTURAL ACCOUNTABILITY The ACGME is a private organization, not a government agency. It is accountable to its interests, not to trainees.The Glass-Steagall parallel: the same perverse incentive structure between regulators and the institutions they regulate contributed to the 2008 financial crisis Medicine now has a version of exactly that.Resident unionization may be one of the few structural checks on this dynamic. PRACTICAL ADVICE FROM DR. BOWERS Going into academic medicine as a highly sub-specialized surgeon may be the highest-risk career setup.The two-hospital model: having multiple institutions competing for your cases fundamentally changes your negotiating position and safety.When to consult an attorney, why you do NOT need to tell the hospital you have one, and what an attorney can and cannot do for you.The controlled retreat strategy: protect yourself for the next job even when the current one is already lost.Non-competes, NPDB, contracts, and what to investigate before signing anything. Closing Reflection: The 100th Episode Every system discussed in this episode was built with a legitimate purpose. The Board of Registration in Medicine protects the public. HCQIA was designed to encourage good-faith quality review. The ACGME exists to ensure training standards. Each one began with a just cause. Over time, changes in how medicine is organized and how physicians are employed have created dynamics the original frameworks were not written for. The physician who simply showed up and did excellent work inside a broken system did not cause that drift. But they are the ones absorbing its cost. The majority of physicians are not the bad actors these systems were designed to catch. They are doing their best inside systems that apply the same rules to the rare bad actor and to the exhausted surgeon who had a difficult patient or staff interaction after a long night of call. Knowing that is clarity of environment, and clarity is the first form of protection. Key Terms Referenced Sham Peer Review: The use of the peer review process to target a physician for non-clinical reasons, typically when an institution has decided to remove someone and needs a documented justification.HCQIA: Healthcare Quality Improvement Act (1986). Grants qualified immunity to hospitals and peer reviewers. Designed to encourage good-faith review; the unintended consequence is that bad-faith reviews are difficult to challenge.NPDB: National Practitioner Data Bank. A federal repository of adverse actions against clinicians. An adverse report follows a physician across state lines and employers permanently.PIP: Performance Improvement Plan. Can be a legitimate corrective process or a documented pathway toward termination, depending on the institutional context.DARVO: Deny, Attack, Reverse Victim and Offender. Coined by psychologist Jennifer Freyd. A pattern that can arise when individuals or institutions face accountability, with or without conscious intent.ACGME: Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education. A private, non-government organization that accredits residency and fellowship programs.

    1h 9m

  4. May 25

    #99 Not Getting Greedy with the Last 5% with Dr. Won Kim

    Join Empowered Surgeons Group here. Dr. Won Kim is a brain and tumor neurosurgeon at UCLA Health, where he trained, completed a fellowship in stereotactic and functional neurosurgery, and built a practice around treating tumors that were once considered inoperable. He is also the kind of surgeon who will tell you he is hard to work for, that M&M should be about quality improvement not blame, and that the last five percent of a perfect resection isn't worth the cost of your patient's quality of life. Won's path to neurosurgery started with a childhood friend who had clinical depression. He wanted to understand how a brain could work so well and suffer so much at the same time. That question took him from a fascination with psychology to watching his first awake craniotomy, and it never really let him go. He ultimately chose neurosurgery over psychiatry. But the question of what makes one person able to thrive while another person can't escape the darkness has followed him throughout his career. In this conversation, we talk about what it actually means to treat the patient and not the scan and why the pursuit of perfection can be its own form of hubris. He talks about what it means to go to sleep without shame or guilt, as long as you prepared to give your best. We also get into his AI startup, why AI will paradoxically create more demand for radiologists rather than less, and what he has learned about becoming a better teacher and mentor. Follow Dr. Kim on instagram here. Are you a surgeon with a story to tell? Yes you are! Email me at mel@melthackercoaching.com

    58 min

  5. May 18

    #98 You're Not Stuck with Dr. Red Hoffman

    Join Empowered Surgeons Group here. Dr. Red Hoffman has spent her career sitting with people at the hardest moments of their lives. As a physician who combines trauma care and palliative medicine, she has built a practice around something most of us spend our whole lives avoiding: death. But what makes Red's perspective so singular is that she isn't just a professional witness to loss. She has lived it, repeatedly and violently. Her grandparents died in a car accident when she was 12. Her father was killed in a terrorist attack in Egypt when she was 19. Her partner sustained a traumatic brain injury and later died by suicide when she was 49. This is a woman who knows grief from the inside out, and she has chosen to meet it with love rather than distance. In this conversation, we talk about what it actually means to have a good death, and what it means for the people left behind. Red explains why violent deaths carry a unique burden — not just the loss itself, but the law enforcement, the media, the legal system, all the unknown layers that pile on top of an already impossible experience. She shares what to say to someone who is grieving when you don't know what to say, and why the most important thing is not to assign meaning to someone else's loss. That work belongs to the bereaved. We also get into what it looks like to build a life on your own terms inside a system that wasn't designed for you. Red talks about navigating a corporate hospital buyout, watching her community get hit by Hurricane Helene, and finding genuine love for a corporation she once might have resisted. She talks about long COVID, what it is like to go from healthy to chronically ill, and how she has learned to ask for what she needs inside a system that makes that incredibly hard. And we talk about twriting the book she wishes she had when her father was killed: a guide to surviving violent death for the people left behind. Red carries a lot of loss and a lot of love, and somehow in her hands those two things are not opposites. I think you are going to feel that. Learn more about Dr. Red Hoffman here. Follow her on instagram here.

    1h 2m

  6. May 11

    #97 Break Free from the Golden Handcuffs with Dr. Shieva Ghofrany

    Join us inside Empowered Surgeons Group here. What happens when being a doctor is no longer enough to sustain you? Dr. Shieva Ghofrany, OB/GYN and founder of A Tribe Called V joins me to explore identity, autonomy, and the hidden pressures of practicing medicine. Dr. Ghofrany didn’t follow a traditional path into medicine, and she doesn’t practice it traditionally either. From switching majors multiple times to building a parallel business, she shares what it looks like to question expectations, tolerate failure, and expand beyond the narrow identity many physicians inherit. We talk about the emotional and psychological realities of OB/GYN, the weight of responsibility in high-stakes situations, and the courage it takes to step outside the “golden handcuffs” of medicine. This episode is about more than career decisions. It’s about how you relate to yourself, especially when things don’t go as planned. 🔍 In This Episode, We DiscussWhy identity in medicine can become limiting and how to expand beyond itThe concept of “golden handcuffs” and why so many physicians feel stuckLearning to tolerate failure (and why it’s essential for fulfillment)Building A Tribe Called V and what entrepreneurship revealed about her strengths and blind spotsThe emotional toll of OB/GYN, including moral injury and high-risk deliveriesThe psychological pressure physicians face in moments like shoulder dystociaHer personal journey through endometriosis, infertility, and ovarian cancerWhat illness taught her about resilience, perspective, and life beyond medicineThe importance of playfulness in the OR and how it shifts performanceA powerful daily mindset practice that shapes how she shows upWhy resentment is not useful in surgery—and what to do insteadCommunication, emotional intelligence, and how to navigate patient retaliation 🧭 Why This Conversation MattersYou can follow every rule, do everything “right,” and still feel constrained by your career. This episode challenges the idea that medicine alone should define you—and offers a different way to think about autonomy, fulfillment, and what it means to build a life that actually works. 👤 About Dr. Shieva GhofranyDr. Shieva Ghofrany is an OB/GYN in private practice and the founder of A Tribe Called V, a platform dedicated to increasing knowledge and reducing anxiety around women’s health. Her work sits at the intersection of medicine, education, and empowerment—helping women better understand their bodies while encouraging physicians to think more broadly about identity and impact. Learn more about Dr. Ghofrani here.

    1h 5m

  7. May 4

    #96 F*ck the Stigma: The Truth About Physician Mental Health with Dr. Jake Goodman

    Join us inside Empowered Surgeons Group here. Dr. Jake Goodman is a psychiatrist who works with healthcare professionals and has built a following of over 2 million people by saying the things most physicians are thinking but not saying out loud. His practice started in a telling way: his first patient was a surgeon, then a dentist, then a veterinarian, then an OB/GYN. That pattern wasn’t random; it revealed something much bigger. There is a massive, unmet need for mental health support in healthcare, and most of us are silently struggling more than we admit. Jake shares his own story of depression during intern year, when he thought he was “burned out,” but was actually depressed. Low energy. Numb. Going through the motions. And here’s the part that hits: he was a psychiatry resident and still couldn’t see it in himself. That’s how deep the stigma runs in our profession. We talk about what it actually takes to come out of that place and why “working harder” is not the answer. At some point, the armor has to come off. And for physicians, that’s often the hardest move. If you’ve ever felt like your life used to work—and now it doesn—you’ll recognize what he describes. The career, the family, the workouts, the expectations… at some point, something gives. His question is simple: Is what you’re doing sustainable for the next 20 years? We also get into the stuff no one taught us: – what to do with the stress your body is carrying after a case – why you can’t just compartmentalize forever – how to recognize your own “check engine lights” before things spiral And one of the most practical tools he shares is how to separate “hot thoughts” from reality. The ones that sound like: I’m a bad doctor. I’m an imposter. I’m going to be found out. Instead of fighting them, he teaches you how to create space from them so they stop running the show. We also talk about emotions: what they are, what they’re not, and why making permanent decisions in temporary emotional states is one of the biggest mistakes physicians make. This conversation is real, practical, and long overdue. If you’ve been telling yourself you’re just “burned out”… you may want to listen to this one. Learn more about Jake's practice here. Follow him on instagram here.

    1h 1m

  8. Apr 27

    #95 Food, Trauma, and the Nervous System with Luis Mojica

    Join us inside Empowered Surgeons Group here. What if your relationship with food had nothing to do with discipline and everything to do with your nervous system? In this conversation with Luis Mojica, we explore the connection between developmental trauma, chronic stress, and the way we relate to food. Luis shares his own story of using an eating disorder to cope with undiagnosed PTSD, and how that led him to question the traditional psychology model that focuses on behavior without getting curious about environment, physiology, or nutrition. His work in nutrition counseling revealed a pattern: people with unresolved trauma and chronic stress often struggle to stabilize their health in ways that have nothing to do with discipline and everything to do with their nervous system. We talk about food as a relationship. Not just something we consume, but something that becomes us. Our tissues, our skin, our blood. Food can stimulate, suppress, or balance the body, much like our relationships with people. Caffeine, sugar, and refined carbohydrates can activate the system. Rich, comforting foods can initially settle us but create downstream effects that dysregulate. Whole foods tend to support balance. This shifts the conversation away from good and bad foods and toward how different foods impact our internal state. We also unpack trauma as a physiological response rather than an event. The body mobilizes for fight or flight, and when that is not possible, it moves into freeze, collapse, or fawn. Many high achievers learn early how to override their own needs in order to belong. That override becomes a strength professionally, but it comes at a cost. Hunger signals, boundaries, and emotional cues all get muted, and over time there is a growing disconnection from the body. The same stress pathways that are activated in trauma can also be activated by the foods we eat. A big part of this conversation is reframing cravings. Instead of something to control, they can be understood as a signal. A compass pointing toward an unmet need. Luis shares examples from his work with patients, including how removing a coping mechanism too quickly can create more distress if we do not first understand what role it is playing. We talk about what it looks like to pause, get curious, and actually listen to what the body is communicating. We also go into practical tools. Tracking where tension or pressure lives in the body. Creating a sense of safety with simple physical cues. Working with numbness and understanding what is underneath it. For those of us in high intensity environments like surgery, this matters. The constant activation, sleep deprivation, and vicarious trauma create a baseline level of stress that most people never experience. In that context, food becomes more than fuel. It becomes a way to regulate. Meals and snacks can either amplify that stress or help bring it down. We close by talking about capacity versus desire. Many physicians love what they do, but their capacity to metabolize the constant input is maxed out. Without space to process, the system stays activated. Practices like pendulation, moving between states of activation and regulation, help rebuild that capacity. This is ultimately about returning to a more sovereign relationship with the body, supporting the microbiome, and understanding that even something as simple as fiber can play a meaningful role in restoring balance. Get Luis's book Food Therapy here. Follow Luis on instagram here.

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A podcast for surgeons who feel like they are languishing in a career that didn't turn out to be as fulfilling or as prestigious as they expected. Dr. Mel Thacker, an ENT surgeon and coach, takes you on a journey to help you understand why you are feeling dissatisfied, burnt out, and stuck. With this newfound insight, you'll be able to reframe how you see your experience, rediscover who you are underneath your surgeon identity, and create a life that aligns with your authentic self. Find more info about Surgeons with Purpose and other shows on the Hippocratic Collective at hippocratic-collective.com

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    Hippocratic Collective
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    105
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